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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#101 » by HornetJail » Wed May 21, 2014 3:52 am

Sonrisen wrote:Trade 1:
Hendo to Knicks for THJ and Fatty

Trade 2:
MKG, Biz, Zeller and Detroits 1st to Bulls for Noah and the Hornets pick back

Trade 3:
Kemba to Orlando for Tobias Harris and Etwuan Moore

FA signing:
Kyle Lowry to big time deal
Chris Kaman

Draft Napier with Hornets pick
Draft Hairston with Portland pick

New Lineup:
PG: Lowry, Napier, Fatty
SG: THJ, Hairston, CDR
SF: Harris, Viking, Tolliver
PF: Big Al, McBob
C: Noah, Kaman

You had something going there until I saw MKG, Biz, and Kemba traded. :lol:

lol, welcome to the boards.


I do like the idea of getting Noah, but there's zero chance that happens. Kemba won't be traded. Period.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#102 » by Sonrisen » Wed May 21, 2014 3:54 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
Sonrisen wrote:Trade 1:
Hendo to Knicks for THJ and Fatty

Trade 2:
MKG, Biz, Zeller and Detroits 1st to Bulls for Noah and the Hornets pick back

Trade 3:
Kemba to Orlando for Tobias Harris and Etwuan Moore

FA signing:
Kyle Lowry to big time deal
Chris Kaman

Draft Napier with Hornets pick
Draft Hairston with Portland pick

New Lineup:
PG: Lowry, Napier, Fatty
SG: THJ, Hairston, CDR
SF: Harris, Viking, Tolliver
PF: Big Al, McBob
C: Noah, Kaman


Lol nah


Noah and Big Al are literally ideal compliments to one another; one is a defensive, rebounding, great assist for a big man lunatic, who doesn't look for his shot, the other id the most offensively creative big man in the league. Harris has 20/10 written all over him and can shoot the 3, THJ give the team the good young sg that they've needed forever and Lowry has major swagger. I love my fake team that I just created in the fake trade thread.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#103 » by Sonrisen » Wed May 21, 2014 3:55 am

Biz Gilwalker wrote:
Sonrisen wrote:Trade 1:
Hendo to Knicks for THJ and Fatty

Trade 2:
MKG, Biz, Zeller and Detroits 1st to Bulls for Noah and the Hornets pick back

Trade 3:
Kemba to Orlando for Tobias Harris and Etwuan Moore

FA signing:
Kyle Lowry to big time deal
Chris Kaman

Draft Napier with Hornets pick
Draft Hairston with Portland pick

New Lineup:
PG: Lowry, Napier, Fatty
SG: THJ, Hairston, CDR
SF: Harris, Viking, Tolliver
PF: Big Al, McBob
C: Noah, Kaman

You had something going there until I saw MKG, Biz, and Kemba traded. :lol:

lol, welcome to the boards.


I do like the idea of getting Noah, but there's zero chance that happens. Kemba won't be traded. Period.


Thanks for the welcome. We as fans become emotionally attached to our own players, but if one were to be objective, my fake new Hornets team is superior in every way to the current one and is actually feasible.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#104 » by HornetJail » Wed May 21, 2014 4:03 am

Is it better than this?

Al/Biz/McGary
McBob/Zeller/Tolliver
MKG/McDermott/CDR
Stephenson/Afflalo/Taylor
Kemba/Napier/Neal

-Trade 9 and Hendo for 12 and Afflalo
-Draft McDermott at 12 and Napier at 24 and McGary at 45
-Sign Stephenson
-Bring back CDR and Tolliver for depth
-Trade Haywood for whatever


Still well under the salary cap as well
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#105 » by Sonrisen » Wed May 21, 2014 4:36 am

Biz Gilwalker wrote:Is it better than this?

Al/Biz/McGary
McBob/Zeller/Tolliver
MKG/McDermott/CDR
Stephenson/Afflalo/Taylor
Kemba/Napier/Neal

-Trade 9 and Hendo for 12 and Afflalo
-Draft McDermott at 12 and Napier at 24 and McGary at 45
-Sign Stephenson
-Bring back CDR and Tolliver for depth
-Trade Haywood for whatever


Still well under the salary cap as well


Let ne try to objectively break it down:

PG's:

I love Kemba's heart, but he still has suspect shot selection at times. I trade him to get a great young sf who can fill it up and play "d", Tobias Harris. I sign Lowry who was ROBBED from an All Star spot and has a big time liller instinct. We both have Napier as a young backup, but I have Fatty and you have Neal as our 3rd string. I'm gonna go with my pg's, slightly.


SG's:
I'm not the biggest Stephenson fan, I think he's too showboaty, and plays hero ball too much, but he does have swagger. I don't see think Afflalo would be happy being a backup. So my sg rotation would be THJ, Viking and Hairston, yours is Lance and Afflalo.....mine is younger and has more potential, yours is proven; tough call, probably the edge to your sg's.

SF's:
I'm possibly the biggest Tobias Harris fan on the planet, I think he has multiple All Star potential, so I am biased. I love MKG, but he's so limited offensively and once again, you gotta give up a lot to get a lot, in my case, Noah. Dougie McBuckets is a proven scorer, but he is a sieve on defense and can literally do nothing other than score and that was in college. I like my sf's better.

Bigs:
I got Big Al and Noah starting with McBob and Kaman backing them up. You've still got McBob as a start with an unproven MM as a backup. My bigs are superior to yours.

Summary:
You put together a good team and I am intrigued with a Lance/Afflalo sg combo, although I think AA would become disgruntled coming off the bench. But your team hasn't really solved the 3 point woes with the exception of AA and it is still very offensively challenged. My team has more than adequately addressed scoring and 3 point shooting with Harris, Lowry, THJ and Hairston and added one of the best defensive bigs in the NBA in Noah that is the best possible compliment to Big AL imaginable. In the end, I'm gonna have to give a slight edge to my Fake Bobcats vs your Fake Bobcats, but you did a good job.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#106 » by mrknowitall215 » Wed May 21, 2014 4:40 am

Trade Kemba for Tobias Harris? :lol:
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#107 » by Sonrisen » Wed May 21, 2014 4:51 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:Trade Kemba for Tobias Harris? :lol:


Posts like yours have no real value. You posted no counter argument whatsoever. Tobias Harris and Kyle Lowry are superior to Kemba Walker and MKG in every single facet of the game. Tobias Harris has multi All Star potential.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#108 » by amcoolio » Wed May 21, 2014 4:53 am

I like your thinking but I don't think Noah and Al can play together. Also we are trading all our potential for guys already in their prime
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#109 » by HornetJail » Wed May 21, 2014 4:53 am

Sonrisen wrote:
Biz Gilwalker wrote:Is it better than this?

Al/Biz/McGary
McBob/Zeller/Tolliver
MKG/McDermott/CDR
Stephenson/Afflalo/Taylor
Kemba/Napier/Neal

-Trade 9 and Hendo for 12 and Afflalo
-Draft McDermott at 12 and Napier at 24 and McGary at 45
-Sign Stephenson
-Bring back CDR and Tolliver for depth
-Trade Haywood for whatever


Still well under the salary cap as well


Let ne try to objectively break it down:

PG's:

I love Kemba's heart, but he still has suspect shot selection at times. I trade him to get a great young sf who can fill it up and play "d", Tobias Harris. I sign Lowry who was ROBBED from an All Star spot and has a big time liller instinct. We both have Napier as a young backup, but I have Fatty and you have Neal as our 3rd string. I'm gonna go with my pg's, slightly.


SG's:
I'm not the biggest Stephenson fan, I think he's too showboaty, and plays hero ball too much, but he does have swagger. I don't see think Afflalo would be happy being a backup. So my sg rotation would be THJ, Viking and Hairston, yours is Lance and Afflalo.....mine is younger and has more potential, yours is proven; tough call, probably the edge to your sg's.

SF's:
I'm possibly the biggest Tobias Harris fan on the planet, I think he has multiple All Star potential, so I am biased. I love MKG, but he's so limited offensively and once again, you gotta give up a lot to get a lot, in my case, Noah. Dougie McBuckets is a proven scorer, but he is a sieve on defense and can literally do nothing other than score and that was in college. I like my sf's better.

Bigs:
I got Big Al and Noah starting with McBob and Kaman backing them up. You've still got McBob as a start with an unproven MM as a backup. My bigs are superior to yours.

Summary:
You put together a good team and I am intrigued with a Lance/Afflalo sg combo, although I think AA would become disgruntled coming off the bench. But your team hasn't really solved the 3 point woes with the exception of AA and it is still very offensively challenged. My team has more than adequately addressed scoring and 3 point shooting with Harris, Lowry, THJ and Hairston and added one of the best defensive bigs in the NBA in Noah that is the best possible compliment to Big AL imaginable. In the end, I'm gonna have to give a slight edge to my Fake Bobcats vs your Fake Bobcats, but you did a good job.

Your frontcourt is incredible, but a 2-guard rotation of Hardaway, Taylor, and Hairston doesn't have any real talent. They're decent fits, but none of them are ever going to be anything more than okay starters/5th options on good teams. Meanwhile Lance and Afflalo would be an incredible duo at the 2, as both were in the running for the ASG (thought they were robbed by Derozan and Johnson), and either one could play minutes at the 3 or even run PG in the case of Lance.

I'd set the rotations as follows:
Al (32)/Biz (16)/McGary
McBob (24)/Zeller (16)/MKG (8)/Tolliver
MKG (24)/Afflalo (12)/McDermott (12)/CDR
Stephenson (32)/Afflalo (16)/Taylor
Kemba (32)/Napier (16)/Neal

Al, MKG, Afflalo, Stephenson, and Kemba all play starter minutes. McBob plays 24 minutes. Biz, Zeller, McBuckets, Napier play backup minutes. Afflalo doesn't have a huge ego, and wouldn't object to coming off the bench if he played starter minutes if he knew it was good for the team.

Al/Biz
McBob/Zeller
MKG/Tolliver
Hendo/CDR
Kemba
won us 43 games this season. Everyone else was a non-factor. I have to think replacing Hendo with Stephenson, Afflalo, McDermott, and Napier has to boost this team at least 10 wins.

Your team simply doesn't have anyone to make life difficult for the big-name SFs and SGs in the East. We'd be guaranteed to run into Lebron, Melo, PG, [Wiggins?]... Harris, Hardaway, and Taylor would get brutally murdered by any of those guys.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#110 » by amcoolio » Wed May 21, 2014 4:54 am

Sonrisen wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:Trade Kemba for Tobias Harris? :lol:


Posts like yours have no real value. You posted no counter argument whatsoever. Tobias Harris and Kyle Lowry are superior to Kemba Walker and MKG in every single facet of the game. Tobias Harris has multi All Star potential.


Harris and Lowry have definite injury concerns. I like Tobes too but its too much of a risk for that package.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#111 » by HornetJail » Wed May 21, 2014 4:55 am

Sonrisen wrote: Tobias Harris... superior to ... MKG in every single facet of the game.

I think MasterIchiro has some room on the MKG hate wagon for you. :lol:
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#112 » by EwingSweatsALot » Wed May 21, 2014 1:38 pm

I'm on the bandwagon where basketball doesn't really have positions anymore. PG and SG are the same position and the same with the 3 and 4. I also believe to be a competitive team year in and year out you have to have a star player. Teams like how we are built now are 7 or 8 in the playoffs or one injury away from being in the top 7 lotto. I preface this by going with this trade and signing.

Kemba, #9, #24 for one of the top 4 picks, preferably top 3, but four would work. If you could get a protected future first back then that would be great.

Then sign Stephenson(he can be your primary ball handler, he does it a lot for Indy)

That gives you potentially:

Stephenson, MKG, Parker, McBob, and Al. You lose Kemba's salary and a first round pick so you still have some flexibility even with the Stephenson signing. This also gives you a more than likely future star in Parker/Wiggins/Embiid/Exum

****No way we trade Kemba, and more than likely no way anyone trades out of that top 4. Just a random thought that IMO would help our team for now and the future.****
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#113 » by LofJ » Wed May 21, 2014 2:08 pm

It pisses me off that no one ever mentions us as having made the playoffs this year. We screwed up at the end of the season and got matched up against the 2 time defending champs but still played them well. Why in the hell do the Hawks, Wizards, and Raptors always get mentioned as teams with a bright future but we get completely ignored? If I was on the team I'd be fired up to kick some ass next season for the disrespect.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#114 » by fatlever » Wed May 21, 2014 6:38 pm

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... r-29-teams

if love agreed to a contract extension as part of the trade, would you do this deal

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The deal: Trade Machine

Hornets receive: Kevin Love
Wolves receive: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Cody Zeller, Gary Neal, Nos. 9 and 24 picks in 2014.

The Wolves never got to truly test out the Al Jefferson-Love big man tandem because Love wasn’t that great yet and Jefferson hurt his knee. They get a redo in Charlotte in this scenario, and with coach Steve Clifford’s defensive stylings, it could actually work.

Wolves would get a former No. 2 pick with potential; Zeller, whom they were enamored with before last year’s draft; and two first-round picks. The Pistons conceding the No. 9 pick to the Bobcats makes this a very attractive deal.


we would still have a lot of cap space, which we would need to use to resign CDR, mcbob, find a backup pg and perhaps another wing

pg: kemba, free agent
sg: henderson, taylor
sf: deng*, cdr
pf: love, mcroberts
c: jefferson, biz, haywood

*perhaps loul deng would work in that scenario
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Post#115 » by BlackOutBuzz » Wed May 21, 2014 6:44 pm

Seems really expensive for a "superstar" that hasn't won a thing. I'd obviously try to send Hendo instead of MKG.

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Post#116 » by ARHornet » Wed May 21, 2014 7:03 pm

I'd do it if we could keep MKG and lose Hendo.

PG: Kemba, FA
SG: Lance*, CDR
SF: MKG, Taylor/Tolly/FA
PF: Love, McBob
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Post#117 » by Snidely FC » Wed May 21, 2014 8:43 pm

I like this trade if we can draft McDermott:

Zeller and Neal to ORL for Afflalo

Sorry Cody, you're a nice guy, but . . .
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#118 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed May 21, 2014 8:51 pm

fatlever wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/68391/gift-of-love-29-trades-for-29-teams

if love agreed to a contract extension as part of the trade, would you do this deal

Charlotte Hornets

The deal: Trade Machine

Hornets receive: Kevin Love
Wolves receive: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Cody Zeller, Gary Neal, Nos. 9 and 24 picks in 2014.

The Wolves never got to truly test out the Al Jefferson-Love big man tandem because Love wasn’t that great yet and Jefferson hurt his knee. They get a redo in Charlotte in this scenario, and with coach Steve Clifford’s defensive stylings, it could actually work.

Wolves would get a former No. 2 pick with potential; Zeller, whom they were enamored with before last year’s draft; and two first-round picks. The Pistons conceding the No. 9 pick to the Bobcats makes this a very attractive deal.


we would still have a lot of cap space, which we would need to use to resign CDR, mcbob, find a backup pg and perhaps another wing

pg: kemba, free agent
sg: henderson, taylor
sf: deng*, cdr
pf: love, mcroberts
c: jefferson, biz, haywood

*perhaps loul deng would work in that scenario


Id do it in a heart beat.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#119 » by amcoolio » Wed May 21, 2014 9:38 pm

Love is a diva and wouldn't commit to here, although I do think we have the trade assets for him.

Skrew Stephenson, go after one of the big guns if you make that trade and Love wants to be here. Lebron being a perfect fit next to Kemba, Love, and Big Al.

As long as we are in fantasy land, right?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2014-15 

Post#120 » by amcoolio » Wed May 21, 2014 9:39 pm

Is there any possible way we can acquire the 8 without giving up 9? I don't see a rookie that could help Sacramento right now. Would you do a Henderson/McRoberts S&T/Future pick for 8/Landry/Outlaw deal?

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