The Nik Stauskas Thread

[catch20two]

Dude hits 90% from 3 in practice, 44% in games. I expect him to remain the best shooter in this draft. And he can dribble. And he can pass.

LaVine might never learn how to make his teammates better, something Stauskas can step in and do right now. LaVine also may never become a knock down 3 pt shooter. He can dribble better than Stauskas, I'll give him that. But if he doesn't know what to do with the ball, he won't see the light of day on the floor.

Y'all keep tryna compare freshman versions of Lavine and Young to a sophomore version of Stauskas. Stauskas only averaged like 11 a game as a freshman before breaking out this year. Both Young and Lavine would've did the same thing had they stayed another year. Granted, Stauskas is going to be a 40% 3 point shooter but I just don't see him being a 20 ppg player in the league, maybe about 15 in his best years.

I don't think that anyone is arguing with you that Lavine and Young have more potential than Stauskas. But just because they could be better doesn't mean that they will. There is certainly more risk in taking either of them than Stauskas. You are talking like it is a certainty that Lavine and Young will be great while Stauskas will be average.

Naaw, I'm talking from the standpoint of wanting to draft a player that has potential to be better than Kemba and Jefferson. I want that alpha dog player that might lead us to a championship and that's worth the risk to me more than just being able to compete enough to make the 2nd round.

[JDR720]

Y'all keep tryna compare freshman versions of Lavine and Young to a sophomore version of Stauskas. Stauskas only averaged like 11 a game as a freshman before breaking out this year. Both Young and Lavine would've did the same thing had they stayed another year. Granted, Stauskas is going to be a 40% 3 point shooter but I just don't see him being a 20 ppg player in the league, maybe about 15 in his best years.

I don't think that anyone is arguing with you that Lavine and Young have more potential than Stauskas. But just because they could be better doesn't mean that they will. There is certainly more risk in taking either of them than Stauskas. You are talking like it is a certainty that Lavine and Young will be great while Stauskas will be average.

Naaw, I'm talking from the standpoint of wanting to draft a player that has potential to be better than Kemba and Jefferson. I want that alpha dog player that might lead us to a championship and that's worth the risk to me more than just being able to compete enough to make the 2nd round.

Kemba is an alpha dog, get to many alpha dogs on one team and problems will happen

[BeesWax]

Y'all keep tryna compare freshman versions of Lavine and Young to a sophomore version of Stauskas. Stauskas only averaged like 11 a game as a freshman before breaking out this year. Both Young and Lavine would've did the same thing had they stayed another year. Granted, Stauskas is going to be a 40% 3 point shooter but I just don't see him being a 20 ppg player in the league, maybe about 15 in his best years.

He scored less but his % was still very good. He could have scored more if he had been more the focus on offense. Burke and Hardaway Jr were the main focuses so Nik took less shots.

He's not going to be the main focus on our team neither. He'll be the 3rd option unless something miraculous happen like he drop a couple 40 point games and then Jefferson and Kemba will have to pass the baton.

So would young. If I am getting a third option I want to guy who shoots better at all areas. Also his handling skills help him rank higher too. May not have as high a ceiling but the floor is lower since he is more ready to be a third option right now.

[Eoghan]

Pfft, he's no Nik Caner-Medley.

Nah, I'd be cool with Stauskas IF we traded down and got him around 15 or so. But we won't, b/c our FO is tsherkin.

Think the Suns would be interested in trading 14 and 18 for 9?

Maybe? They need a big talent injection to get over the hump and into the WC playoff picture.

[MasterIchiro]

Pfft, he's no Nik Caner-Medley.

Nah, I'd be cool with Stauskas IF we traded down and got him around 15 or so. But we won't, b/c our FO is tsherkin.

Think the Suns would be interested in trading 14 and 18 for 9?

Maybe? They need a big talent injection to get over the hump and into the WC playoff picture.

Maybe they like Saric? It will be interesting to see what happens if Saric is there at 9.

What could we do with 14 and 18?

I think we could get LaVine and Young or LaVine/Young and Anderson/Napier. We might could flip Napier for Hardaway Jr.

[catch20two]

I don't think that anyone is arguing with you that Lavine and Young have more potential than Stauskas. But just because they could be better doesn't mean that they will. There is certainly more risk in taking either of them than Stauskas. You are talking like it is a certainty that Lavine and Young will be great while Stauskas will be average.

Naaw, I'm talking from the standpoint of wanting to draft a player that has potential to be better than Kemba and Jefferson. I want that alpha dog player that might lead us to a championship and that's worth the risk to me more than just being able to compete enough to make the 2nd round.

Kemba is an alpha dog, get to many alpha dogs on one team and problems will happen

Kemba has no problem deferring and being the 2nd or 3rd option. He just want to win.

[JDR720]

I dont think Young is efficient enough to be a #2 scorer, a 40% college shooter (especially on a loaded team with so many weapons) doesn't suddenly become a 45% or better NBA scorer, he will be an inefficient chucker (much worse Paul George)

[catch20two]

He scored less but his % was still very good. He could have scored more if he had been more the focus on offense. Burke and Hardaway Jr were the main focuses so Nik took less shots.

He's not going to be the main focus on our team neither. He'll be the 3rd option unless something miraculous happen like he drop a couple 40 point games and then Jefferson and Kemba will have to pass the baton.

So would young. If I am getting a third option I want to guy who shoots better at all areas. Also his handling skills help him rank higher too. May not have as high a ceiling but the floor is lower since he is more ready to be a third option right now.

I want the high ceiling. We need top-end talent if we're going to ever be more than a treadmill. I want a player that COULD be more, not the player that WILL be just good enough to surpass.

[BeesWax]

Think the Suns would be interested in trading 14 and 18 for 9?

Maybe? They need a big talent injection to get over the hump and into the WC playoff picture.

Maybe they like Saric? It will be interesting to see what happens if Saric is there at 9.

What could we do with 14 and 18?

I think we could get LaVine and Young or LaVine/Young and Anderson/Napier. We might could flip Napier for Hardaway Jr.

I would assume we would package 18 with 24 to try to move up in the draft a little. Maybe Minnesota moves back to add depth as they lose Love.

[ARHornet]

He's not going to be the main focus on our team neither. He'll be the 3rd option unless something miraculous happen like he drop a couple 40 point games and then Jefferson and Kemba will have to pass the baton.

So would young. If I am getting a third option I want to guy who shoots better at all areas. Also his handling skills help him rank higher too. May not have as high a ceiling but the floor is lower since he is more ready to be a third option right now.

I want the high ceiling. We need top-end talent if we're going to ever be more than a treadmill. I want a player that COULD be more, not the player that WILL be just good enough to surpass.

I get what you're saying. I just don't believe Young will ever be more than average or that LaVine will ever be more than a very good 6th man. I don't see either one of them as being the guy who leads this team.

[BeesWax]

He's not going to be the main focus on our team neither. He'll be the 3rd option unless something miraculous happen like he drop a couple 40 point games and then Jefferson and Kemba will have to pass the baton.

So would young. If I am getting a third option I want to guy who shoots better at all areas. Also his handling skills help him rank higher too. May not have as high a ceiling but the floor is lower since he is more ready to be a third option right now.

I want the high ceiling. We need top-end talent if we're going to ever be more than a treadmill. I want a player that COULD be more, not the player that WILL be just good enough to surpass.

The problem is where Young's ceiling is say an 8.5 and Nik's is 8 the floors are 5 and 7 respectively. Nik is going to be a player in the league for a decade because of all his skills. Young will not last that long unless he develops the basketball skills to last. Young has gotten by on size and athletic ability where Nik has worked on the craft. I won't mind Young at 9 but I think Nik is the better pick because we know he is a player and if they both max out the difference isn't even that much.

[catch20two]

So would young. If I am getting a third option I want to guy who shoots better at all areas. Also his handling skills help him rank higher too. May not have as high a ceiling but the floor is lower since he is more ready to be a third option right now.

I want the high ceiling. We need top-end talent if we're going to ever be more than a treadmill. I want a player that COULD be more, not the player that WILL be just good enough to surpass.

The problem is where Young's ceiling is say an 8.5 and Nik's is 8 the floors are 5 and 7 respectively. Nik is going to be a player in the league for a decade because of all his skills. Young will not last that long unless he develops the basketball skills to last. Young has gotten by on size and athletic ability where Nik has worked on the craft. I won't mind Young at 9 but I think Nik is the better pick because we know he is a player and if they both max out the difference isn't even that much.

Lol. Y'all act like Young can't shoot as if he on some MKG sh*t. Young is a legit deep threat. He has similar numbers to Michael Redd coming out of college.

[JDR720]

I want the high ceiling. We need top-end talent if we're going to ever be more than a treadmill. I want a player that COULD be more, not the player that WILL be just good enough to surpass.

The problem is where Young's ceiling is say an 8.5 and Nik's is 8 the floors are 5 and 7 respectively. Nik is going to be a player in the league for a decade because of all his skills. Young will not last that long unless he develops the basketball skills to last. Young has gotten by on size and athletic ability where Nik has worked on the craft. I won't mind Young at 9 but I think Nik is the better pick because we know he is a player and if they both max out the difference isn't even that much.

Lol. Y'all act like Young can't shoot as if he on some MKG sh*t. Young is a legit deep threat. He has similar numbers to Michael Redd coming out of college.

Nik has similar shooting numbers to Ray Allen coming out of college

[BeesWax]

I want the high ceiling. We need top-end talent if we're going to ever be more than a treadmill. I want a player that COULD be more, not the player that WILL be just good enough to surpass.

The problem is where Young's ceiling is say an 8.5 and Nik's is 8 the floors are 5 and 7 respectively. Nik is going to be a player in the league for a decade because of all his skills. Young will not last that long unless he develops the basketball skills to last. Young has gotten by on size and athletic ability where Nik has worked on the craft. I won't mind Young at 9 but I think Nik is the better pick because we know he is a player and if they both max out the difference isn't even that much.

Lol. Y'all act like Young can't shoot as if he on some MKG sh*t. Young is a legit deep threat. He has similar numbers to Michael Redd coming out of college.

Again not acting like anything. One guy has proven in two years to be a very good shooter and the other has put of middle of the road numbers. Young may shoot very well and may work very hard to get there or he could be a 35% 3pt shooter for his career. Not bad but not great either. I want to proven better player is all I am saying and Nik has proven to do what we need better than Young so far.

[catch20two]

The problem is where Young's ceiling is say an 8.5 and Nik's is 8 the floors are 5 and 7 respectively. Nik is going to be a player in the league for a decade because of all his skills. Young will not last that long unless he develops the basketball skills to last. Young has gotten by on size and athletic ability where Nik has worked on the craft. I won't mind Young at 9 but I think Nik is the better pick because we know he is a player and if they both max out the difference isn't even that much.

Lol. Y'all act like Young can't shoot as if he on some MKG sh*t. Young is a legit deep threat. He has similar numbers to Michael Redd coming out of college.

Nik has similar shooting numbers to Ray Allen coming out of college

So did McLemore.

[JDR720]

Lol. Y'all act like Young can't shoot as if he on some MKG sh*t. Young is a legit deep threat. He has similar numbers to Michael Redd coming out of college.

Nik has similar shooting numbers to Ray Allen coming out of college

So did McLemore.

the difference in McLemore and Nik is Nik can actually dribble a ball and attack the rim

[ARHornet]

I want the high ceiling. We need top-end talent if we're going to ever be more than a treadmill. I want a player that COULD be more, not the player that WILL be just good enough to surpass.

The problem is where Young's ceiling is say an 8.5 and Nik's is 8 the floors are 5 and 7 respectively. Nik is going to be a player in the league for a decade because of all his skills. Young will not last that long unless he develops the basketball skills to last. Young has gotten by on size and athletic ability where Nik has worked on the craft. I won't mind Young at 9 but I think Nik is the better pick because we know he is a player and if they both max out the difference isn't even that much.

Lol. Y'all act like Young can't shoot as if he on some MKG sh*t. Young is a legit deep threat. He has similar numbers to Michael Redd coming out of college.

Young got hot towards the end of the season and in the tournament. For a large portion of the regular season he was awful. He's can shoot, no doubting that. But he was inconsistent. That's a concern.

[catch20two]

I give up on this back and forth because I hear y'all argument. Y'all argument is that Stauskas is going to shoot lights out and that's almost guaranteed in which I agree. My argument is that he's not the player that's going to put us over the hump.

[Liver_Pooty]

I give up on this back and forth because I hear y'all argument. Y'all argument is that Stauskas is going to shoot lights out and that's almost guaranteed in which I agree. My argument is that he's not the player that's going to put us over the hump.

I don't think there is a player at 9 that is going to put us over the hump. I believe that player will come in FA.

[StitchJones]

I think Stauskas could a be a Klay Thompson like player. The question is if his handles and quick release transition. If they do he could be a very good scorer in the NBA. Cho and company will have to determine this in workouts. As far as Lavine, I don't think i would take him with the number 9 pick. He's going to take a few years to become what people think he could be. If we can trade up about 5 spots from 24, then I think he will be there. in that case you can take either Gordon or Randle as I think one of them is going to fall to 9.