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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#341 » by Skin » Mon May 26, 2014 4:44 am

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tiderulz wrote:
so then why are there so many players with bad defense?

Why did you cut off my post? I explained it right after that comma. :roll:

Size and athleticism are God given gifts and if a player is lacking in those departments then no matter how hard they try or learn defensive concepts, they will be exposed. Desire, hustle, motor all factor into it as well and that's why you try to gauge that on a prospect. Some guys just don't care.

That said, lacking defense doesn't stop someone from NBA stardom. Nor does defense alone make you a star.

Skin do you plan on making a thread for Exum similar to your giant "My case for Trey Burke" thread so I have something to revisit and smh at next offseason? Did I miss it? If so,id like to bookmark that one too.

If there's one thing about me that I don't care about it's being wrong. I love debates, I love putting my thoughts out there and I love supporting my points. Don't we all?

That said, I thought Burke put together a pretty good rookie season. 12 ppg, 6/2 assist to TO ratio, 33% from 3. Not bad at all. I wanted Burke in a trade down and Oladipo at 2. Especially got excited when Dipo was going to be tried as a PG.

You know I hated Jameer all these years... cause you hate whenever I bash him. Heck, I even had hopes that that Westbrook kid would've beat him out! HA HA HA! You know how badly I want to fix the PG position. I think I will keep supporting the top PG prospect until we finally get one! Last year it was Burke, this year Exum... and before that... psh... Otis hadn't left us with a draft pick in years. So if we don't end up drafting a PG this year, then the search will go on! :D

But back to your question... I already made a thread for Exum back in Feb. Wasn't as comprehensive as that Burke one at all, but it was my "A ha" moment when I figured out he was the guy I wanted most in this draft. Here it is!

viewtopic.php?p=38821407#p38821407

I'll be patient with you though. One of these days we'll agree on something and we'll be best buds! :D
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#342 » by Baller2014 » Mon May 26, 2014 4:47 am

The safer pick is Smart, the home-run swing pick is Exum. There are no other picks IMO. The top 3 will be gone, and I wouldn't take Randle or Vonleh at #4.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#343 » by Optimus_Steel » Mon May 26, 2014 12:34 pm

Great work Skin!
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#344 » by Blue_and_Whte » Mon May 26, 2014 5:08 pm

Baller2014 wrote:The safer pick is Smart, the home-run swing pick IS Exum. There are no other picks IMO. The top 3 will be gone, and I wouldn't take Randle or Vonleh at #4.
It's definately a swing for the fences pick imo. I hope I'm wrong.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#345 » by KillMonger » Mon May 26, 2014 5:14 pm

It's either Exum or Smart for me at the 4th pick, Randle and Vonleh just doesn't do it for me at that spot. I would be extremely happy with either Exum or Smart and i think both would be ready to contribute right away with Smart a tad bit more ready because of his NBA ready frame. Smart and Oladipo in the backcourt would be a defensive nightmare for opposing teams. Exum i think would turn this team into an up-tempo "run other teams out of the gym" kind of team, the guy just flies down the court. Can't lose either way imo
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#346 » by Orlwillbeback » Mon May 26, 2014 5:31 pm

Skin wrote:If there's one thing about me that I don't care about it's being wrong. I love debates, I love putting my thoughts out there and I love supporting my points. Don't we all?



Thank you! too many people take things too personally on here. Debate is the whole point of this realgm!
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#347 » by Smooth_E » Tue May 27, 2014 3:54 am

Big Boss wrote:It's either Exum or Smart for me at the 4th pick, Randle and Vonleh just doesn't do it for me at that spot. I would be extremely happy with either Exum or Smart and i think both would be ready to contribute right away with Smart a tad bit more ready because of his NBA ready frame. Smart and Oladipo in the backcourt would be a defensive nightmare for opposing teams. Exum i think would turn this team into an up-tempo "run other teams out of the gym" kind of team, the guy just flies down the court. Can't lose either way imo


I agree, Exum or Smart for sure (unless Jabari, Andrew, or Joel slip to us).

I really like Adreian Payne at #12. Check him out:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdWyRTnZ9Qo[/youtube]
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#348 » by Skin » Tue May 27, 2014 4:19 am

Yeah Saric and Payne are 2 guys I'm cheering for.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#349 » by ChiefWiggumz » Tue May 27, 2014 4:24 am

Orlwillbeback wrote:holy ****, no one should ever compare griffin to gordon. ever.


it's not the **** comparison ever.

Their college rookie years:

Blake is HT: 6'8.5" Wingspan: 6'11.25"

PPG FG% RBS AST BLK STL FT%
14.7 .568 9.1 1.8 0.8 1.0 .589

Gordon: HT: 6' 7.5" Wingspan: 6' 11.75"

PPG FG% RBS AST BLK STL FT%
12.4 49.5 8.0 2.0 0.9 1.0 42.2

The comparison is completely warranted. Not saying Gordon is as good of a player as Blake was coming out of college, but it makes sense. Their strengths and weaknesses at the same age were fairly similar.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#350 » by fendilim » Tue May 27, 2014 4:28 am

Regardless of their game, i'd stay away from someone with the abyssmal ft%... It snot like going to be star to begin with anyway.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#351 » by BadMofoPimp » Tue May 27, 2014 2:11 pm

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What championship big man does Randle remind you of?


Reminds me of Randolph. But, he did lead his team to the final 64. That is the heart of a champion right there. All heart and hustle blue collar.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#352 » by machu46 » Tue May 27, 2014 2:28 pm

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Orlwillbeback wrote:holy ****, no one should ever compare griffin to gordon. ever.


it's not the **** comparison ever.

Their college rookie years:

Blake is HT: 6'8.5" Wingspan: 6'11.25"

PPG FG% RBS AST BLK STL FT%
14.7 .568 9.1 1.8 0.8 1.0 .589

Gordon: HT: 6' 7.5" Wingspan: 6' 11.75"

PPG FG% RBS AST BLK STL FT%
12.4 49.5 8.0 2.0 0.9 1.0 42.2

The comparison is completely warranted. Not saying Gordon is as good of a player as Blake was coming out of college, but it makes sense. Their strengths and weaknesses at the same age were fairly similar.


I personally like the Shawn Marion comparison better, but yeah, I agree that Gordon and Blake's strengths and weaknesses are very similar when they were each freshman. But Blake was definitely better at those strengths and weaknesses.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#353 » by tiderulz » Tue May 27, 2014 2:41 pm

machu46 wrote:
ChiefWiggumz wrote:
Orlwillbeback wrote:holy ****, no one should ever compare griffin to gordon. ever.


it's not the **** comparison ever.

Their college rookie years:

Blake is HT: 6'8.5" Wingspan: 6'11.25"

PPG FG% RBS AST BLK STL FT%
14.7 .568 9.1 1.8 0.8 1.0 .589

Gordon: HT: 6' 7.5" Wingspan: 6' 11.75"

PPG FG% RBS AST BLK STL FT%
12.4 49.5 8.0 2.0 0.9 1.0 42.2

The comparison is completely warranted. Not saying Gordon is as good of a player as Blake was coming out of college, but it makes sense. Their strengths and weaknesses at the same age were fairly similar.


I personally like the Shawn Marion comparison better, but yeah, I agree that Gordon and Blake's strengths and weaknesses are very similar when they were each freshman. But Blake was definitely better at those strengths and weaknesses.


i too see more of a comparison for Gordon to Marion than Blake in style and play.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#354 » by Neon1 » Tue May 27, 2014 2:54 pm

machu46 wrote:
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The comparison is completely warranted. Not saying Gordon is as good of a player as Blake was coming out of college, but it makes sense. Their strengths and weaknesses at the same age were fairly similar.


I personally like the Shawn Marion comparison better, but yeah, I agree that Gordon and Blake's strengths and weaknesses are very similar when they were each freshman. But Blake was definitely better at those strengths and weaknesses.


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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#355 » by BadMofoPimp » Tue May 27, 2014 3:20 pm

Personally, I wasn't that impressed with Gordon. Looks like a high energy bench player in the NBA.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#356 » by Smooth_E » Tue May 27, 2014 10:00 pm

For all the Dante Exum skeptics: A unbiased appraisal of Dante's game..

http://hoopshype.com/columns/david-nurs ... exums-game
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#357 » by tiderulz » Tue May 27, 2014 10:28 pm

Smooth_E wrote:For all the Dante Exum skeptics: A unbiased appraisal of Dante's game..

http://hoopshype.com/columns/david-nurs ... exums-game


lost the unbiased part with this sentence

Exum is a transcendent talent with a unique skill set and unlimited potential.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#358 » by Smooth_E » Wed May 28, 2014 12:23 am

tiderulz wrote:
Smooth_E wrote:For all the Dante Exum skeptics: A unbiased appraisal of Dante's game..

http://hoopshype.com/columns/david-nurs ... exums-game


lost the unbiased part with this sentence

Exum is a transcendent talent with a unique skill set and unlimited potential.


Lol that's not so much unbiased as much as it is overreaction/hype.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#359 » by Devin 1L » Wed May 28, 2014 12:29 am

Smooth_E wrote:For all the Dante Exum skeptics: A unbiased appraisal of Dante's game..

http://hoopshype.com/columns/david-nurs ... exums-game


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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#360 » by MellowRose » Wed May 28, 2014 12:30 am

Don't forget fraschela saying exum reminds him of Jordan...



Lol...not hating since I like exum, but the hype is insane.

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