Rerisen wrote:But I'm not picking random low impact players to be better than they have, most won't be, but there is specific reasons that a player might do better, mostly based on plus abilities that can be leveraged better, while having a team able to cover for weaknesses.
I understand your train of thought here and I agree that this is a possibility, just that such a development most times is seen for middling mpg players. I can see Afflalo being a bigger impact per possession player when used more specifically in advantageous matchups for him. But something like that is hardly possible with 30+ mpg, rather in the 20 to 25 mpg range. And for that he has a too rich contract.
I guess, we both agree that the Bulls need at least a 3rd quality wing player, and I don't have a problem with Afflalo in such a role, but I have when that means the Bulls have to give up Gibson. To understand my position on that 3rd big better, I probably need to point out that from my perspective the "ideal" playoff rotation consists of 8 players, the starters and then a quality player as backup for the lead guard position, the wing and a big. Under the assumption, the Bulls could get Love (or Anthony), I see the Bulls with the starters (Rose-Butler-Dunleavy-Love-Noah or Rose-Butler-Anthony-Gibson-Noah) and then one quality backup (either big in Gibson or wing with Dunleavy). Giving up either of those quality backups should not be an option; the Bulls should rather try to get the quality for the other positions via FA.
Rerisen wrote:We can say no team has yet (despite a change in the player and role) and appeal to authority of NBA people, but those same people gave AA nearly 3x as much as MDJ, so how wise are they then.
True, but keep the circumstances in mind as well (age, potential role on the Nuggets). I also think, that those people thought he can improve as on overall offensive player (including some playmaking). I questioned that contract at the time already and questioned the Magic decision to take Afflalo instead of Iguodala even more. But well ... the point wouldn't be that the NBA FO can't evaluate talent wrongly, but rather that the coaches are pretty good at choosing the right role for different players.
Rerisen wrote:My interest is not to change someone's mind though, nor until they can mine, but rather to fully understand their position and reason behind it. Which I think I do yours about this topic. Hammering endlessly beyond that over the same points stops being productive.
Fully agree. If I look at the discussion, we essentially only disagree on the "potential" Afflalo has on the Bulls, I guess.