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Birdman a Victim of Elaborate Catfishing Scheme 

Post#1 » by LoveMyHeat » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:24 pm

http://deadspin.com/chris-andersen-alle ... 1343750504

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nba/ne ... z2fHVAW6JI

According to Andersen's attorney, a Canadian woman named Shelly Lynn Chartier has been impersonating Andersen online in order to foster relationships with other people. Apparently, the underage woman in California whose mother allegedly extorted Andersen was actually one of Chartier's victims. Furthermore, Andersen's attorneys believe that it was Chartier, posing as the California woman's mother, who tried to extort Andersen.
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Post#2 » by LoveMyHeat » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:28 pm

Official statement from the Heat

Miami Heat wrote:"We are not surprised that this is the end result. We are happy for Chris and glad this unfortunate incident is behind him."
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Post#3 » by Seabass777 » Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:36 pm

Wow that's some crazy stuff right there after reading that article,tough break that Birdman was victimized,but at least he wasn't on the orchestrating end of it.
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Post#4 » by HOPPZ » Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:48 pm

We've discovered who Manti Te'o gf is!!
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Post#5 » by HOPPZ » Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:49 pm

In all seriousness though, I'm happy for Birdman and glad he doesnt have to deal with this crap from this chick anymore.
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Post#6 » by GreenHat » Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:37 am

http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/9690368/chris-andersen-miami-heat-cleared-extremely-complex-case
Her communications between the parties were successful enough that the woman from California traveled to Colorado, when Andersen was then playing for the Denver Nuggets, and met Andersen. Their relationship, however, did not develop. At the time of their meeting, the woman from California was of legal age, Bryant said.


That seems to imply that Andersen really was talking to some 17 yr old (the "woman from California) online but that the time they actually met she was 18. I have no idea why the lawyer would say that when if he said nothing everyone would just assume it was all hoax.

From my understanding there was a 17 yr old girl who Andersen was talking to but then another woman (Chartier, the woman from Canada) kind of sent each of them messages posing as each other.
The woman, identified by the Denver Post as Shelly Lynn Chartier of Easterville, Manitoba, posed as Andersen in electronic conversations with a woman in California. Then she posed as the California woman in electronic conversations with Andersen.


But if they (Andersen and the girl from California) met up in Denver they definitely were talking to each other as well and if Andersen's lawyer is stressing that she was of legal age at the time of the meeting that implies that she wasn't at some point while Andersen was talking to her. Again I just don't know why he would say that when everyone would have just assumed it was all a hoax.

If I am reading this wrong someone intelligent please point out why.

Looks like nothing ended up happening between them but to me its not a big deal anyway. Age of consents are fairly arbitrary and different in different states.
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Post#7 » by HIF » Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:47 am

If I am reading this wrong someone intelligent please point out why.


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You're reading something into nothing. Let it go and get back to putting Spo down. :D
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Post#8 » by GreenHat » Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:12 pm

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If I am reading this wrong someone intelligent please point out why.


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You're reading something into nothing. Let it go and get back to putting Spo down. :D


Seems like I'm the only one who actually read the article and not just the headline. I know you probably didn't read the articles, and even if you did I know you didn't understand them. Maybe I am reading it wrong that's why I asked if anyone had clarification. It definitely says Andersen and the girl from California (not the lady who made up the convos) met up in Denver and the lawyer said she was of age at the time instead of just saying of age. Like I said I don't care either way and nothing ended up happening between them anyway.

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Post#9 » by DWadeno3 » Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:35 pm

GreenHat wrote:http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/story/_/id/9690368/chris-andersen-miami-heat-cleared-extremely-complex-case
Her communications between the parties were successful enough that the woman from California traveled to Colorado, when Andersen was then playing for the Denver Nuggets, and met Andersen. Their relationship, however, did not develop. At the time of their meeting, the woman from California was of legal age, Bryant said.


That seems to imply that Andersen really was talking to some 17 yr old (the "woman from California) online but that the time they actually met she was 18. I have no idea why the lawyer would say that when if he said nothing everyone would just assume it was all hoax.

From my understanding there was a 17 yr old girl who Andersen was talking to but then another woman (Chartier, the woman from Canada) kind of sent each of them messages posing as each other.
The woman, identified by the Denver Post as Shelly Lynn Chartier of Easterville, Manitoba, posed as Andersen in electronic conversations with a woman in California. Then she posed as the California woman in electronic conversations with Andersen.


But if they (Andersen and the girl from California) met up in Denver they definitely were talking to each other as well and if Andersen's lawyer is stressing that she was of legal age at the time of the meeting that implies that she wasn't at some point while Andersen was talking to her. Again I just don't know why he would say that when everyone would have just assumed it was all a hoax.

If I am reading this wrong someone intelligent please point out why.

Looks like nothing ended up happening between them but to me its not a big deal anyway. Age of consents are fairly arbitrary and different in different states.


Her not being of age when he started talking to her allowed Chartier to cause this problem in the first place. If they had never met, there wouldn't have been much of a case in the first place. In order to avoid any confusion going forward, Andersen's lawyer most likely clarified that once they met in person, the girl from California was of age so that any speculation about Andersen doing anything with a girl who isn't legal is avoided.
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Post#10 » by GreenHat » Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:39 am

Yeah I definitely agree with that. Like I said nothing happened, I just thought it was funny that the lawyer would say that when if he said nothing everyone would assume that it was all fake. After he said that it makes it seem like Andersen is chatting up underage girls online.

Glad he got cleared.
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Post#11 » by Heatin4 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:23 am

I apologize on behalf of all Canadians. We let you down. The US should invade us now on behalf of Superstar Birdman.
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Post#12 » by DWadeno3 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:09 pm

GreenHat wrote:Yeah I definitely agree with that. Like I said nothing happened, I just thought it was funny that the lawyer would say that when if he said nothing everyone would assume that it was all fake. After he said that it makes it seem like Andersen is chatting up underage girls online.

Glad he got cleared.


I disagree, somebody with Andersen's background and reputation would quickly be the victim of false speculation if his lawyer hadn't clarified the situation.
I don't think it makes it seem like he's chatting up underage girls though. It's just an unfortunate situation with a girl that's barely legal.
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Post#13 » by FlashFlare » Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:00 pm

Good for Birdman. B***es be crazy
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Post#14 » by TdotRap4Lyfe » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:45 pm

Heatin4 wrote:I apologize on behalf of all Canadians. We let you down. The US should invade us now on behalf of Superstar Birdman.

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Post#15 » by GreenHat » Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:21 am

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GreenHat wrote:Yeah I definitely agree with that. Like I said nothing happened, I just thought it was funny that the lawyer would say that when if he said nothing everyone would assume that it was all fake. After he said that it makes it seem like Andersen is chatting up underage girls online.

Glad he got cleared.


I disagree, somebody with Andersen's background and reputation would quickly be the victim of false speculation if his lawyer hadn't clarified the situation.
I don't think it makes it seem like he's chatting up underage girls though. It's just an unfortunate situation with a girl that's barely legal.


What do you mean? The false speculation would have worked in his favor in this case. Everyone would have assumed it was all fake.

Even after he said it most people just read the headline and thought it was all fake. If he didn't say anything I would have assumed that there was no girl in California and that the Canadian lady just made it all up.

He was chatting up an underage girl, she just turned 18 by the time they met. Again I don't care but that is probably not something Andersen would want to be publicly known.
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Post#16 » by DWadeno3 » Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:20 pm

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GreenHat wrote:Yeah I definitely agree with that. Like I said nothing happened, I just thought it was funny that the lawyer would say that when if he said nothing everyone would assume that it was all fake. After he said that it makes it seem like Andersen is chatting up underage girls online.

Glad he got cleared.


I disagree, somebody with Andersen's background and reputation would quickly be the victim of false speculation if his lawyer hadn't clarified the situation.
I don't think it makes it seem like he's chatting up underage girls though. It's just an unfortunate situation with a girl that's barely legal.


What do you mean? The false speculation would have worked in his favor in this case. Everyone would have assumed it was all fake.

Even after he said it most people just read the headline and thought it was all fake. If he didn't say anything I would have assumed that there was no girl in California and that the Canadian lady just made it all up.

He was chatting up an underage girl, she just turned 18 by the time they met. Again I don't care but that is probably not something Andersen would want to be publicly known.


I mean given his past and reputation the speculation would've not been that it's fake but that there's some truth to it which his lawyer is trying to hide. The fact that Andersen and the girl were talking would've come out one way or another and it's better this way than by another unreliable source.
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Post#17 » by GreenHat » Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:03 pm

That seems extremely speculative given the actual reaction. Even with the lawyer bringing it up most people still think the girl is made up because all of the headlines are "catfish" and "manti teo". Just look at how many people here didn't read the article. That's how people are.

And Andersen has no past or reputation that would make people think that other than this case. Given the catfish and manti teo headlines the public would have assumed it was all fake. Most people are doing that anyway.
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Post#18 » by Mars » Sun Jun 1, 2014 7:40 pm

The Birdman’s Vengeful Ghost

By Flinder Boyd | Newsweek
May 28, 2014 5:58 AM EDT

The Pas courthouse in the backwoods of Manitoba sits near the local jail, set back from the road by a quarter-mile of rolling green lawn. It’s a nondescript, one-story brick building that serves the small communities in the upper reaches of Canada’s Keystone province, where land disputes, petty theft and public drunkenness charges are brought before provincial judges and usually resolved with a handshake and a finger-wag.

Last December, just a few days before Christmas, Shelly Lynne Chartier, a 29-year-old recluse with a sixth-grade education, was in that courthouse, accused of masterminding an elaborate Web scam that ensnared both celebrities and their fans. Authorities say her ruse was one of the most sophisticated they’ve ever seen. It lasted nearly three years and tormented at least 11 victims, including a B-list actress, a Playboy Playmate and even a member of the Kardashian-Jenner clan.

Chartier stood silently as the judge read the charges, then remanded her back to her hometown of nearby Easterville on house arrest. He also ordered her Internet access to be turned off immediately.

Meanwhile, 2,600 miles away, Chris Andersen was in Miami, anxiously awaiting a call from his lawyer. The 35-year-old NBA player was recovering from the previous night’s game while hoping for some news about the court appearance of the woman who had nearly destroyed his career, and his life...

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Post#19 » by kyphi » Sun Jun 1, 2014 9:46 pm

I'm pleased this ugly incident is behind him.

She's done some sort of blackmail before to 11 people, some of celebrity status.
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Post#20 » by NBA82 » Sun Jun 1, 2014 10:00 pm

Birdman has been through some serious hardship in his life and just keeps chugging. That guy is tough as nails. I'm glad he's had success in Miami. He deserves it.

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