Trade Ideas - Part 2

Hoops Addict · Post #1401 » by **Hoops Addict** » Fri Jun 6, 2014 3:22 am

Jajwanda wrote:There's talk of a lottery pick trade for Waiters and Thompson. I think the unmentioned team may be L.A. Utah is also another possibility.

How's Tristan Thompson developed since the draft?

Utah would not trade their #5 for Waiters or Thompson, but most Jazz fans value them ( and your PG ) and would take them in a trade.

Please suggest any good trade ideas with the Jazz.

Jajwanda · Post #1402 » by **Jajwanda** » Fri Jun 6, 2014 7:37 am

No as in I think the Lakers are looking at Waiters and Thompson.

Dupp · Post #1403 » by **Dupp** » Fri Jun 6, 2014 9:56 am

Well the lakers are smoking crack

Post #1404 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Jun 6, 2014 5:27 pm

If the Cavs trade Waiters to the Lakers, I'll be heart broken. If the Cavs trade Waiters, my plan is to root for whoever he's traded to and I just can't root for the Lakers.

BossHoggin · Post #1405 » by **BossHoggin** » Fri Jun 6, 2014 10:39 pm

Hoops Addict wrote:
Jajwanda wrote:There's talk of a lottery pick trade for Waiters and Thompson. I think the unmentioned team may be L.A. Utah is also another possibility.

How's Tristan Thompson developed since the draft?

Utah would not trade their #5 for Waiters or Thompson, but most Jazz fans value them ( and your PG ) and would take them in a trade.

Please suggest any good trade ideas with the Jazz.

Jajwanda, looks like you found a home for Nash.

Post #1406 » by **jbk1234** » Sat Jun 7, 2014 6:43 pm

Hoops Addict wrote:
Jajwanda wrote:There's talk of a lottery pick trade for Waiters and Thompson. I think the unmentioned team may be L.A. Utah is also another possibility.

How's Tristan Thompson developed since the draft?

Utah would not trade their #5 for Waiters or Thompson, but most Jazz fans value them ( and your PG ) and would take them in a trade.

Please suggest any good trade ideas with the Jazz.

Honestly, Favors is the only player on the Jazz for whom I would surrender anything of value.

kiwibrindle · Post #1407 » by **kiwibrindle** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:46 pm

Just thinking about the fact that this Draft could be the best draft in a log time. With this in mind does anyone think the Cavs could trade Dion and TT for the 2 or 3rd pick?

If we could we could upgrade at the 2 and the 4 or the 2 and the 5.

I love Dion's upside and can't stand TT but does anyone else think trading to okay today players to Mil or Philly?

Remeber all those DIon for Crap trades ? If that interest was genuine maybe we could getthe 3rd pick for those to guys. Thoughts?

Post #1408 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:03 pm

kiwibrindle wrote:Just thinking about the fact that this Draft could be the best draft in a log time. With this in mind does anyone think the Cavs could trade Dion and TT for the 2 or 3rd pick?

If we could we could upgrade at the 2 and the 4 or the 2 and the 5.

I love Dion's upside and can't stand TT but does anyone else think trading to okay today players to Mil or Philly?

Remeber all those DIon for Crap trades ? If that interest was genuine maybe we could getthe 3rd pick for those to guys. Thoughts?

Generally, it's rare that adding guys together gets you a better pick. Usually, if one guy won't get you the pick, adding the two together won't get it for you.

Either way, I can't imagine either guy getting you another top 3 pick. Maybe not top 5. But after the top tier? Yeah, it's possible. Not crazy either.

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mcfly1204 · Post #1409 » by **mcfly1204** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:09 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:
kiwibrindle wrote:Just thinking about the fact that this Draft could be the best draft in a log time. With this in mind does anyone think the Cavs could trade Dion and TT for the 2 or 3rd pick?

If we could we could upgrade at the 2 and the 4 or the 2 and the 5.

I love Dion's upside and can't stand TT but does anyone else think trading to okay today players to Mil or Philly?

Remeber all those DIon for Crap trades ? If that interest was genuine maybe we could getthe 3rd pick for those to guys. Thoughts?

Generally, it's rare that adding guys together gets you a better pick. Usually, if one guy won't get you the pick, adding the two together won't get it for you.

Either way, I can't imagine either guy getting you another top 3 pick. Maybe not top 5. But after the top tier? Yeah, it's possible. Not crazy either.

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I think we will upgrade at the 5 with our pick, and I do not see a potential upgrade at SG, outside of Wiggins if someone chooses to play him there. I am not opposed to moving Thompson, but if anything, I think you look for a SF who will compliment this roster. GSW's roster is full of PFs, otherwise there might be some legs to a Thompson/Barnes swap.

IMHO · Post #1410 » by **IMHO** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:03 pm

Jajwanda wrote:There's talk of a lottery pick trade for Waiters and Thompson. I think the unmentioned team may be L.A. Utah is also another possibility.

How's Tristan Thompson developed since the draft?

for one he's 2 inches taller now

kiwibrindle · Post #1411 » by **kiwibrindle** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:52 am

[quote="mcfly1204"][quote="Scoot McGroot"][quote="kiwibrindle"]Just thinking about the fact that this Draft could be the best draft in a log time. With this in mind does anyone think the Cavs could trade Dion and TT for the 2 or 3rd pick?

If we could we could upgrade at the 2 and the 4 or the 2 and the 5.

I love Dion's upside and can't stand TT but does anyone else think trading to okay today players to Mil or Philly?

Remeber all those DIon for Crap trades ? If that interest was genuine maybe we could getthe 3rd pick for those to guys. Thoughts?[/quote]

Generally, it's rare that adding guys together gets you a better pick. Usually, if one guy won't get you the pick, adding the two together won't get it for you.

Either way, I can't imagine either guy getting you another top 3 pick. Maybe not top 5. But after the top tier? Yeah, it's possible. Not crazy either.

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I think we will upgrade at the 5 with our pick, and I do not see a potential upgrade at SG, outside of Wiggins if someone chooses to play him there. I am not opposed to moving Thompson, but if anything, I think you look for a SF who will compliment this roster. GSW's roster is full of PFs, otherwise there might be some legs to a Thompson/Barnes swap.[/quote]

No I was thinking the lineup of Kyrie, Wiggins, Maybe Deng, Parker and MAybe Hawes or
Kyrie Wiggins, Maybe Deng, Bennett and J Embiid would be the upgrade at two spots in the starting five. Over
Kyrie Waiters, Maybe Deng, TT and Maybe Hawes.

Dupp · Post #1412 » by **Dupp** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:59 am

Only chance of getting another top 3 pick is a Kyrie centred deal

Snotbubbles · Post #1413 » by **Snotbubbles** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:41 pm

kiwibrindle wrote:Just thinking about the fact that this Draft could be the best draft in a log time. With this in mind does anyone think the Cavs could trade Dion and TT for the 2 or 3rd pick?

If we could we could upgrade at the 2 and the 4 or the 2 and the 5.

I love Dion's upside and can't stand TT but does anyone else think trading to okay today players to Mil or Philly?

Remeber all those DIon for Crap trades ? If that interest was genuine maybe we could getthe 3rd pick for those to guys. Thoughts?

Think about this for a second, why would MIL or PHI trade their top 3 pick for Waiters or Thompson? Neither team is in win-now mode and the players in the top 3 this year project to be better than either of those guys. I doubt MIL has any interest whatsoever in moving the #2 pick. PHI may be interested in moving up to #1, but would not have an interest in a NBA player for #3 pick trade.

Snotbubbles · Post #1414 » by **Snotbubbles** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:44 pm

Dupp wrote:Only chance of getting another top 3 pick is a Kyrie centred deal

This makes sense. PHI still wouldn't be interested. MIL might. The biggest issue is Irving's contract status.

mcfly1204 · Post #1415 » by **mcfly1204** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:12 pm

Snotbubbles wrote:
Dupp wrote:Only chance of getting another top 3 pick is a Kyrie centred deal

This makes sense. PHI still wouldn't be interested. MIL might. The biggest issue is Irving's contract status.

You mean having Irving for a minimum of two more years if for some virtually unprecedented reason he choses to sign his QO?...

Snotbubbles · Post #1416 » by **Snotbubbles** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:23 pm

mcfly1204 wrote:
Snotbubbles wrote:
Dupp wrote:Only chance of getting another top 3 pick is a Kyrie centred deal

This makes sense. PHI still wouldn't be interested. MIL might. The biggest issue is Irving's contract status.

You mean having Irving for a minimum of two more years if for some virtually unprecedented reason he choses to sign his QO?...

As opposed to having a player on a rookie contract for what 5 years? Yes. 2 years of Irving, isn't worth 5 years of any of the top 3 players in this draft.

mcfly1204 · Post #1417 » by **mcfly1204** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:32 pm

The thing is, that is just your perspective. Some might say that a guaranteed 2 years, with the possibility of 4 years, of a proven talent is a greater value than a prospect who has not played a game in the NBA.

Dupp · Post #1418 » by **Dupp** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:01 pm

I actually agree and would take the 4 years of one of the top 3 if I was an opposing team.

Jazzfan154 · Post #1419 » by **Jazzfan154** » Sun Jun 15, 2014 4:18 pm

Hi i'm a jazz fan and i'm wondering if you guys would trade the #1 pick for Enes Kanter, #5 2014 pick, and the Jazz unprotected 2015 pick?

gflem · Post #1420 » by **gflem** » Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:13 pm

Jazzfan154 wrote:Hi i'm a jazz fan and i'm wondering if you guys would trade the #1 pick for Enes Kanter, #5 2014 pick, and the Jazz unprotected 2015 pick?

I don't think the Cavs would do that. While I like Kanter's potential, going from 1 to 5 in this years draft is too much of a drop. Even adding next years pick wouldn't help much. It seems that Gilbert wants to win now. The only way I can see the Cavs moving the #1 is for Kevin Love, and unless he is extended I don't see that happening either.