2013-2014 College Basketball / '14 NBA Draft Thread

[Bling76]

A Wiggins/Randle draft would set this franchise back several years

When Hinkie shows no interest in this guy on draft night I'll be the first to say I told you so

Really, dude? You're becoming an awful user.

"set the franchise back" is a bit extreme but I agree that they are two of the most overrated prospects in this draft. Randle would represent fair value at #10, nothing more. I considered him a stud prospect before the season began, but I don't see him bringing much value to an NBA team once his physicality is neutralized. His defense is poor and he lacks offensive versatility. What does he project to do well besides rebounding? How is he significantly better than Thomas Robinson, JJ Hickson, Tyler Hansbrough, Leon Powe, and so on? If his best case comp is David Lee, that would be an awful 10th pick.

[emptygator]

I really like Joe Harris in the 2nd round this year. He is one of the best shooters in the draft this year, and has been coached by Tony Bennett who is supposedly running one of the better defensive minded college basketball programs.

I think he has a shooting touch very comparable to the likes of Stauskas and Mcdermott. He isn't as polished or crafty as these two, but I feel that on NBA roster each of the 3 will be mainly responsible for being a spot up shooter anyway.

Harris can stroke it as good as the other 2, be acquired at a much lower draft pick, and might be the best defensively of the 3.

[Sixerscan]

I don't know how you can view Randle as a weak prospect. He's a tad undersized but he PLAYS big. He isn't afraid of contact. Loves playing with his back to the basket (rare these days). He has some serious potential and helped lead his team to an NCAA Final game. If we are lucky enough for him to be available at 10 you snag him 10 times out of 10. Hinkie is still aquiring assets. I love Stauskas but believe me if Randle is there at 10 along with Stauskas, I'm taking Randle.

The concern is that it gets harder to play big when you start playing against bigger guys. He wasn't undersized in college, it's going to be something he has to overcome in the pros

I'm with you on Randle/Stauskas though. But can people stop using the "led his team to the finals" thing? So if Aaron Harrision doesn't make that ridiculous shot against Michigan you would have a lower opinion of Julius Randle? Come on.

[LeonJordanJr24]

Any combo of Wiggins and Randle
Or Parker and Gordon.

Exum and Vonleh


Would really be a amazing draft in the lottery!!!!

This draft will be epic!!!!

[WVU]

I don't know how you can view Randle as a weak prospect. He's a tad undersized but he PLAYS big. He isn't afraid of contact. Loves playing with his back to the basket (rare these days). He has some serious potential and helped lead his team to an NCAA Final game. If we are lucky enough for him to be available at 10 you snag him 10 times out of 10. Hinkie is still aquiring assets. I love Stauskas but believe me if Randle is there at 10 along with Stauskas, I'm taking Randle.

The concern is that it gets harder to play big when you start playing against bigger guys. He wasn't undersized in college, it's going to be something he has to overcome in the pros

I'm with you on Randle/Stauskas though. But can people stop using the "led his team to the finals" thing? So if Aaron Harrision doesn't make that ridiculous shot against Michigan you would have a lower opinion of Julius Randle? Come on.

No, my opinion on Randle would not change if they didn't make it to the championship game. I was only noting he helped and was a big part of that NCAA tournament run.

He isn't severely undersized like you're making him out to be. Kevin Love measured the exact same at the Draft Combine.. I don't think he has had too hard of a transition from NCAA play vs NBA play. Randle's frame is excellent. He isn't going to be bullied - again, he LOVES playing big. He isn't out there settling for jumpers or fades.. he's bodying people and using post moves.

Let him get in our camp and see how we can develop him.. I think he has loads of potential and his floor alone is worth the pick at 10.

[LloydFree]

Id love to hear who you think are the top 3 realistic prospects at 10 are....who are leaps and bounds above Randle as a prospect.

Right down the line on DX mock: Stauskas, Gordon, Saric, Nurkic, Harris, Ennis, Payne, Hairston, Anderson. I'd say the majority of those guys will be available at our pick

I got Gordon, Stauskas, Payne and Anderson as better pro prospects. Unsure on Saric, because I can't really gauge the athleticism of the opponents in the videos. Those guys are flawed prospects too, but I think each one has at least two above average NBA skills, for their size and position.

[51X3RF4N]

Any combo of Wiggins and Randle
Or Parker and Gordon.

Exum and Vonleh


Would really be a amazing draft in the lottery!!!!

This draft will be epic!!!!

WTF? Where do you get the idea that Exum and Vonleh might be the outcome of this draft for the Sixers?

[51X3RF4N]

I really like Joe Harris in the 2nd round this year.

Agreed. I think he could easily be a 6th man on a good team as a role player. He's also very tough and plays with a chip on his shoulder. I'd be stoked if he ended up in a Sixers uni in the 2nd round.

[roma258]

I don't have ESPN insider, but the part that's previewed is useful enough and jibes with what I'd been thinking all along.

Tier 1

Joel Embiid
Jabari Parker
Andrew Wiggins

Last year, we didn't have any player in this category. This category is usually reserved for guys who are sure-fire All-Stars or "franchise" players. Since 2009, only Griffin, John Wall and Davis have been ranked in this slot. This year, there are three players in Tier 1 -- as many as there have been in the last five years combined. All of them received Tier 1 votes from every GM, exec and scout I surveyed. So if there is any consensus out there, it's that there are three really great prizes in this year's draft.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft201 ... ects-tiers

[ankle420breaker]

I don't have ESPN insider, but the part that's previewed is useful enough and jibes with what I'd been thinking all along.

Tier 1

Joel Embiid
Jabari Parker
Andrew Wiggins

Last year, we didn't have any player in this category. This category is usually reserved for guys who are sure-fire All-Stars or "franchise" players. Since 2009, only Griffin, John Wall and Davis have been ranked in this slot. This year, there are three players in Tier 1 -- as many as there have been in the last five years combined. All of them received Tier 1 votes from every GM, exec and scout I surveyed. So if there is any consensus out there, it's that there are three really great prizes in this year's draft.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft201 ... ects-tiers

Interesting. Only three Tier 1 guys in the last five years prior to this draft. Crazy how strong the consensus is for the top 3 and encouraging that they're all being projected by wide array of GM's & scouts to be on the same level as guys like Griffin, Wall, and AD. We absolutely need a cornerstone guy of that caliber.... another Evan Turner would be beyond disappointing.

[sixerswillrule]

A Wiggins/Randle draft would set this franchise back several years

When Hinkie shows no interest in this guy on draft night I'll be the first to say I told you so

Really, dude? You're becoming an awful user.

"set the franchise back" is a bit extreme but I agree that they are two of the most overrated prospects in this draft. Randle would represent fair value at #10, nothing more. I considered him a stud prospect before the season began, but I don't see him bringing much value to an NBA team once his physicality is neutralized. His defense is poor and he lacks offensive versatility. What does he project to do well besides rebounding? How is he significantly better than Thomas Robinson, JJ Hickson, Tyler Hansbrough, Leon Powe, and so on? If his best case comp is David Lee, that would be an awful 10th pick.

Awful, really? You expect the best case scenario for the 10th pick in the draft to be a superstar? David Lee is a borderline all star. If you think that caliber should be the middle ground for the 10th pick (i.e. between best case and worst case, or most likely), then your expectations are way too high.

[Bling76]

Really, dude? You're becoming an awful user.

"set the franchise back" is a bit extreme but I agree that they are two of the most overrated prospects in this draft. Randle would represent fair value at #10, nothing more. I considered him a stud prospect before the season began, but I don't see him bringing much value to an NBA team once his physicality is neutralized. His defense is poor and he lacks offensive versatility. What does he project to do well besides rebounding? How is he significantly better than Thomas Robinson, JJ Hickson, Tyler Hansbrough, Leon Powe, and so on? If his best case comp is David Lee, that would be an awful 10th pick.

Awful, really? You expect the best case scenario for the 10th pick in the draft to be a superstar? David Lee is a borderline all star. If you think that caliber should be the middle ground for the 10th pick (i.e. between best case and worst case, or most likely), then your expectations are way too high.

Yeah I take that back. I had said earlier in the post that Randle represents fair value at #10, so I kind of contradicted myself there.

[Kobblehead]

Smh

[Sixteen]

Any truth to that report about Embid's medical situation not holding up with Cleveland? I read something about it on the Celtics draft forum. I would post a link, but I got a new phone and Im not sure how. What would that mean for us assuming theres truth to it? Exum

[51X3RF4N]

If the medical report doesn't hold up, then they likely take Wiggins. Hinkie would have to work the phones to move up and get Wiggins. OR, stay at 3 and take Exum. If the medical report is truly that bad for Cleveland to pass on him, then I'd assume he would drop like a rock. Maybe even to #10? Exum at #3 and Embiid at #10? Not a bad draft at all.

[Kobblehead]

The medical concerns over Embiid are bulls***. Cleveland is merely trying to increase the urgency of teams that want Wiggins to come calling.

Come draft day, Embiid wear definitely be wearing a Cavs hat.

[WVU]

I'm not buying the medical issues with Embiid either. He is going first overall. Just smoke

[Sixteen]

The medical concerns over Embiid are bulls***. Cleveland is merely trying to increase the urgency of teams that 7want Wiggins to come calling.

Come draft day, Embiid wear definitely be wearing a Cavs hat.

Good thing we have Hinkie at the helm. I think its comical how fans of the Bucks and Cavs act as if its Wiggins or bust for us and not only should we be willing to part ways with the 10th pick for him, we should do it with a smile as if they're doing us a favor. Please, keep your top 2 picks, we'll just select one of the left over #1 draft pick candidates and then select another impact player with our 10th.

I think when its all said and done, whoever we draft will have the better career due to the incompetent manegment of the Bucks and Cavs. Our road to a top 3 pick was a lot different than the Cavs and the Bucks. The Bucks just sucked because they sucked, same with the Cavs. We tore things down purposely.

[SJSF]

Ahhh. The smoke screens. Just like The Wiggins rumors. Give me one of the top 3

[MrPerfect1]

I think when its all said and done, whoever we draft will have the better career due to the incompetent manegment of the Bucks and Cavs. Our road to a top 3 pick was a lot different than the Cavs and the Bucks. The Bucks just sucked because they sucked, same with the Cavs. We tore things down purposely.

You realize the Bucks have drafted quite well for their position the last 4-5 years and are also under new management right? Not sure what about Lasry/Edens you find incompetent, unless maybe you disliked their Press Conference?