The Dante Exum Thread

[OrlandO]

Who cares about Marshon Brooks. He's an undersized to average sized SG with terrible bball IQ.... he is a chucker who can't pass and has no vision. Exum is an extremely tall PG who moves lightning quick with the ball and I bet he's significantly smarter on the court. The potential for mismatches are through the roof for Exum.

[basketballRob]

The same combine numbers that say Cody Zeller is more athletic than Dwight?? Cmon man..Gotta use context

What are Zeller's number's compared to Dwight?

zeller vs howard:
35.5" vs 30.5" no step vert
37.5" vs 35.5" max vert
10.82 vs 11.21 lane agility
3.15 vs 3.14 3/4 sprint
17 v 7 bench press

Oh and when you compare players you should also look at their weight in addition to their wingspan and reach. You have to assemble the players in the right category before you can compare them.

[basketballRob]

Who cares about Marshon Brooks. He's an undersized to average sized SG with terrible bball IQ.... he is a chucker who can't pass and has no vision. Exum is an extremely tall PG who moves lightning quick with the ball and I bet he's significantly smarter on the court. The potential for mismatches are through the roof for Exum.

Lightning quick, He's not as fast as Zeller.

[Smooth_E]

I personally SMH when people use the term "Lightning Quick" lol

You mean he's 1.21 gigawatts fast????? lol

Doc Brown told me that you were wrong about that.

[OrlandO]

Who cares about Marshon Brooks. He's an undersized to average sized SG with terrible bball IQ.... he is a chucker who can't pass and has no vision. Exum is an extremely tall PG who moves lightning quick with the ball and I bet he's significantly smarter on the court. The potential for mismatches are through the roof for Exum.

Lightning quick, He's not as fast as Zeller.

I said "lightning quick WITH the ball."

Just stop it. You're trying too hard to hate on exum. You can like smart and also find good in exum, too.

[OrlandO]

I personally SMH when people use the term "Lightning Quick" lol

You mean he's 1.21 gigawatts fast????? lol

Doc Brown told me that you were wrong about that.

Weird... because it was only a month ago when you used the term yourself...

I think Exum's going to be very, very good. I wouldn't be upset with him at #2.

Same here. I believe he will be a star. That first step is lighting quick.

viewtopic.php?p=39827095#p39827095

and a couple months before that...

I know this is obvious, but Wall is lightning quick. That crossover is dirty!

viewtopic.php?p=38786955#p38786955

[Smooth_E]

I personally SMH when people use the term "Lightning Quick" lol

You mean he's 1.21 gigawatts fast????? lol

Doc Brown told me that you were wrong about that.

Weird... because it was only a month ago when you used the term yourself...

I think Exum's going to be very, very good. I wouldn't be upset with him at #2.

Same here. I believe he will be a star. That first step is lighting quick.

viewtopic.php?p=39827095#p39827095

and a couple months before that...

I know this is obvious, but Wall is lightning quick. That crossover is dirty!

viewtopic.php?p=38786955#p38786955

Giving myself the SMH right now lolol damn you!

[tiderulz]

Who cares about Marshon Brooks. He's an undersized to average sized SG with terrible bball IQ.... he is a chucker who can't pass and has no vision. Exum is an extremely tall PG who moves lightning quick with the ball and I bet he's significantly smarter on the court. The potential for mismatches are through the roof for Exum.

i truly wonder about this. His agent is pushing him to be called a PG, but everything that i have seen scouts say that his true position will probably be a SG, where he isnt suddenly such a big player.

[Def Swami]

I am not sure if this was posted, but here is a write-up from Grantland about Exum:

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/titus-nba-draft-international-dante-exum-dario-saric-clint-capela-jusuf-nurkic-kristaps-porzingis/



I am still pro Dante, but this kinda confirms my suspicions about the guy: he may not be as skilled and smart as people think he is. If you compound that with average athleticism, this pick has a bust potential more so than Smart pick would have.

Exum having higher bust potential isn't anything new. Teams want him for his insane potential, not because he's a safe pick.

Do you think Exum could just end up being Marshon Brooks type player? Brooks is a better athlete and could've put up the same numbers as Exum in the same situations.

We're being trolled.

[G-Heel]

I personally SMH when people use the term "Lightning Quick" lol

You mean he's 1.21 gigawatts fast????? lol

Doc Brown told me that you were wrong about that.

Weird... because it was only a month ago when you used the term yourself...

I think Exum's going to be very, very good. I wouldn't be upset with him at #2.

Same here. I believe he will be a star. That first step is lighting quick.

viewtopic.php?p=39827095#p39827095

and a couple months before that...

I know this is obvious, but Wall is lightning quick. That crossover is dirty!

viewtopic.php?p=38786955#p38786955

Damn, that's hilarious

[Devin 1L]

Who cares about Marshon Brooks. He's an undersized to average sized SG with terrible bball IQ.... he is a chucker who can't pass and has no vision. Exum is an extremely tall PG who moves lightning quick with the ball and I bet he's significantly smarter on the court. The potential for mismatches are through the roof for Exum.

Say what?

-Marshon Brooks measured in extremely well at 6-4 1/4 without shoes with a gigantic 7-1 wingspan, further adding to the strong buzz he has going for himself heading into the month of June. His wingspan is just an inch shorter than the likes of Josh Howard, Trevor Ariza and Tracy McGrady, players who saw more time at small forward than shooting guard in the NBA. For comparison's sake, the average power forward drafted in the first round has a 7-1.8 wingspan, while Brooks is clearly a shooting guard skill-wise.

DraftExpress - Analyzing the 2011 NBA Combine Measurements

For what it's worth, I do agree with you that it's a bad comparison.

[AdamTheGreek]

For anyone curious (whether a troll brought it up or not).

http://stats.nba.com/draftCombineLaneAg ... ar=2011-12

Lane Agility
MarShon Brooks - 10.74 seconds
Dante Exum - 10.75

3/4 Court Sprint
Brooks - 3.09 seconds
Exum - 3.19

Standing Vertical Leap
Brooks - 34"
Exum - 31.5"

Max Vertical Leap
Brooks - 38.5"
Exum - 34.5"

Body Fat
Brooks - 5.2%
Exum - 6.4%

Hand Length
Brooks - 9.0"
Exum - 8.5"

Hand Width
Brooks - 10.5"
Exum - 9.5"

Height without Shoes
Brooks - 6' 4.25"
Exum - 6' 4.50"

Height with Shoes
Brooks - 6' 5.25"
Exum - 6' 6"

Standing Reach
Brooks - 8' 5"
Exum - 8' 7"

Weight
Brooks - 194.6
Exum - 196.3

Wingspan
Brooks - 7' 1"
Exum - 6' 9.50"

[OrlandO]

Who cares about Marshon Brooks. He's an undersized to average sized SG with terrible bball IQ.... he is a chucker who can't pass and has no vision. Exum is an extremely tall PG who moves lightning quick with the ball and I bet he's significantly smarter on the court. The potential for mismatches are through the roof for Exum.

Say what?

-Marshon Brooks measured in extremely well at 6-4 1/4 without shoes with a gigantic 7-1 wingspan, further adding to the strong buzz he has going for himself heading into the month of June. His wingspan is just an inch shorter than the likes of Josh Howard, Trevor Ariza and Tracy McGrady, players who saw more time at small forward than shooting guard in the NBA. For comparison's sake, the average power forward drafted in the first round has a 7-1.8 wingspan, while Brooks is clearly a shooting guard skill-wise.

DraftExpress - Analyzing the 2011 NBA Combine Measurements

For what it's worth, I do agree with you that it's a bad comparison.

I'm aware of Brooks' wingspan, but as a SG he still looks average sized at best to me. His standing reach doesn't jump off the charts like his wingspan and he was 6'5 under 200 pounds at 23 years old. If he was a PG, like we're talking about Exum, then he wouldn't look so average...

[basketballRob]

For anyone curious (whether a troll brought it up or not).

http://stats.nba.com/draftCombineLaneAg ... ar=2011-12

Lane Agility
MarShon Brooks - 10.74 seconds
Dante Exum - 10.75

3/4 Court Sprint
Brooks - 3.09 seconds
Exum - 3.19

Standing Vertical Leap
Brooks - 34"
Exum - 31.5"

Max Vertical Leap
Brooks - 38.5"
Exum - 34.5"

Body Fat
Brooks - 5.2%
Exum - 6.4%

Hand Length
Brooks - 9.0"
Exum - 8.5"

Hand Width
Brooks - 10.5"
Exum - 9.5"

Height without Shoes
Brooks - 6' 4.25"
Exum - 6' 4.50"

Height with Shoes
Brooks - 6' 5.25"
Exum - 6' 6"

Standing Reach
Brooks - 8' 5"
Exum - 8' 7"

Weight
Brooks - 194.6
Exum - 196.3

Wingspan
Brooks - 7' 1"
Exum - 6' 9.50"

When drawing up these comparisons you have to look at the weight also and they were close to the same weight. I see you did list the weight. For example Noah Vonleh's vertical was top 8 all-time for a player over 240.

Thanks for the chart.

[OrlandO]

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[fendilim]

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but yes Brooks is a better athlete, that's a fact.

just curious, how?

Brooks is faster and can jump higher. That's usually a good indication.

Redick ran faster than Chris Paul and jumped higher than Iguodala. So...

[basketballRob]

just curious, how?

Brooks is faster and can jump higher. That's usually a good indication.

Redick ran faster than Chris Paul and jumped higher than Iguodala. So...

Redick is a good athlete. When doing comparisons you have to take size and weight into consideration. For example it is more impressive for a guy 6'8" 240 to jump 35" than it is for a guy 6'5" 190 lbs. to jump 42 inches. I'm sure if you had the time and perhaps got paid for it you could use analytics to find out what is an average vertical for the size of a player.

[Baka_La Flame]

Anyone else see similarities in Exum and Ginobli and Parker? I think he's a mixture of both guys.

[JF5]

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note: he covers the Bucks for the largest paper in Milwaukee/Wisconsin.

I don't like this

[OrlandO]

Anyone else see similarities in Exum and Ginobli and Parker? I think he's a mixture of both guys.

He does like Ginobili's game...

When asked which NBA players he compares himself to, Exum said that he has watched a lot of Oklahoma City Thunder point guard Russell Westbrook and San Antonio Spurs shooting guard Manu Ginobili among others.

“I can’t look at one player and say that’s who I play like, but I can see different traits that players have that I see: I look at Russell Westbook as that explosive point guard that can get to the rim, and also Manu Ginobili when he gets into the paint and the way he can finish,” Exum said. “It’s just looking at different players and what they can do, and how that can help my game.”