Any interest in Kevin Martin or Jeff Green? (DET/BOS/MIN)
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Any interest in Kevin Martin or Jeff Green? (DET/BOS/MIN)
Celtics fan here, our board's been talking around ideas to get Kevin Love, obviously, but in a way that gives MIN immediate help...
What do you all think of something built around
Love to BOS
Josh Smith, Celtics assets to MIN
Kevin Martin to DET
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Love to BOS
Josh Smith, Celtics assets to MIN
Jeff Green to DET?
Any appeal there? My sense would be that you can keep Monroe and get a scorer/shooter on the perimeter... Not what I'd do if I were the Pistons, but you guys know the team and your options better..
What do you all think of something built around
Love to BOS
Josh Smith, Celtics assets to MIN
Kevin Martin to DET
OR
Love to BOS
Josh Smith, Celtics assets to MIN
Jeff Green to DET?
Any appeal there? My sense would be that you can keep Monroe and get a scorer/shooter on the perimeter... Not what I'd do if I were the Pistons, but you guys know the team and your options better..
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Giving us cap as well? I'd do either.
Martin's contract - 6.8, 7.0 7.4
Green - 9.4, 9.4
Smith - 13.5, 13.5, 13.5
Martin's contract - 6.8, 7.0 7.4
Green - 9.4, 9.4
Smith - 13.5, 13.5, 13.5
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
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Re: Any interest in Kevin Martin or Jeff Green? (DET/BOS/MI
Definite yes to both.
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Re: Any interest in Kevin Martin or Jeff Green? (DET/BOS/MI
I would do either one of those deals
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neither are very exciting, but i'd do both.
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Laimbeer wrote:Giving us cap as well? I'd do either.
OK,
where do we sign....
bring on the paperwork....
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Turning Smith into the cheaper Jeff Green, who can actually shoot and is a real SF, would be fantastic. I wouldn't be excited by getting Martin, since he's a one-way player, but he's getting paid less than Smith, and he can shoot, so that'd be nice.
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I like the idea.
Maybe Celtics then doesn't trade Sullinger. But get two forwards to MIN that keeps them semi relevant.
MIN gets: Smith, Green, picks
DET gets: Martin, Bogans
BOS gets: Love
Maybe Celtics then doesn't trade Sullinger. But get two forwards to MIN that keeps them semi relevant.
MIN gets: Smith, Green, picks
DET gets: Martin, Bogans
BOS gets: Love
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Jeff green just dosent do it for me
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Where do I sign up for those 2 deals?
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I prefer 1st trade
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2nd trade looks better
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I'd love kevin martin. The exact player we need on our team
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Good deals for DET in both cases, Green probably the preferable player of the two.
Whether it makes sense to Minnie would depend on whether Saunders wants to try and chase a playoff spot this season. Rubio, Smith and Pek could be a nice nucleus if they can get shooters for the 2 & 3.
Whether it makes sense to Minnie would depend on whether Saunders wants to try and chase a playoff spot this season. Rubio, Smith and Pek could be a nice nucleus if they can get shooters for the 2 & 3.
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I like Martin. Would be a good fit for us. This team needs shooters.
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Re: Any interest in Kevin Martin or Jeff Green? (DET/BOS/MI
I'd happily do both.
I guess i'd prefer Green, but neither player is all that exciting.
I guess i'd prefer Green, but neither player is all that exciting.
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rickrolled wrote:I like the idea.
Maybe Celtics then doesn't trade Sullinger. But get two forwards to MIN that keeps them semi relevant.
MIN gets: Smith, Green, picks
DET gets: Martin, Bogans
BOS gets: Love
Whoa no Bogans.
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
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Laimbeer wrote:rickrolled wrote:I like the idea.
Maybe Celtics then doesn't trade Sullinger. But get two forwards to MIN that keeps them semi relevant.
MIN gets: Smith, Green, picks
DET gets: Martin, Bogans
BOS gets: Love
Whoa no Bogans.
I think he can be waived for nothing.
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Sounds almost too easy for Detroit. I'm worried that SVG wouldn't pull the trigger on the K-Mart deal for a lack of defense in return.
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Wait, we trade Smith, and actually get some kind of value in return? OK.
Saying that, no thanks to Kevin Martin, under any situation. Every team that guy goes to (other than OKC for some reason), all you hear about, is how terribly overrated he is, and how disgusting it is watching him try (or not try) to play defense. (There's a reason the GS->Love trade died when MIN insisted on swapping Martin for Thompson) If you give that guy any sort of responsibility other than what he got in OKC which was to just come in off the bench and shoot a bunch of times and sit down, then he is going to be a disaster. Id avoid the hell out of that if i could.
If we swap Smith for Green though, you'd have to say yes to that, even though you have worries about how good he actually is aswell.
Saying that, no thanks to Kevin Martin, under any situation. Every team that guy goes to (other than OKC for some reason), all you hear about, is how terribly overrated he is, and how disgusting it is watching him try (or not try) to play defense. (There's a reason the GS->Love trade died when MIN insisted on swapping Martin for Thompson) If you give that guy any sort of responsibility other than what he got in OKC which was to just come in off the bench and shoot a bunch of times and sit down, then he is going to be a disaster. Id avoid the hell out of that if i could.
If we swap Smith for Green though, you'd have to say yes to that, even though you have worries about how good he actually is aswell.