Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)?

TroyD92 · Post #1021 » by **TroyD92** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:15 am

Thunder Muscle wrote:
TroyD92 wrote:
Thunder Muscle wrote:I think out of courtesy to Drew that we should set him free and not embarrass him by conducting a coaching search while he's still employed. Coaching ability/satisfaction aside, the guy didn't do anything to be strung along and look like a sitting duck. And also give him the chance to jump on some other team's staff.

I'm with some in that I'd rather have our new President hired and make the call on the GM, who in turn could hire the Coach.

You have no idea if he's been strung along.

Right, but it is sure seeming like he won't be back and probably was never in the cards. I highly doubt he would've agreed to stick around if they were upfront in that he wasn't going to be retained. And if they don't plan to fire Drew unless they find a clear upgrade, I don't know how Drew comes to work with a passion for the future knowing they are looking to get rid of him.

I don't think he has many duties at this point.

Zeezprah · Post #1022 » by **Zeezprah** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:16 am

i'd honestly like it if kidd were just head coach. i've always thought he'd make a good one, just thought he could've used a few years as an assistant first.

call me crazy, but i think i could really get behind a hammond/morway gm with conditions set that we will build through the draft, and kidd as head coach.

would love to get a complete basketball nerd as POBO.

Thunder Muscle · Post #1023 » by **Thunder Muscle** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:16 am

machu46 wrote:This would be bad if true. Pretty sure a team has only lost a draft pick for tampering once, back in the 90s, but it was for contacting a coach while he was still a coach elsewhere.

@NetsStats: Sources: Kidd received a job offer from new Bucks owner Mark Lasry before he made demands to Nets ownership about increasing power in org.

This would not be good... Way ahead of things, but if end up losing 1st rd pick that is devastating for franchises like ours.

ReddRum · Post #1024 » by **ReddRum** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:18 am

I would love the hire of Kidd as the next coach. Get it done!

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Wooderson · Post #1025 » by **Wooderson** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:18 am

Hey at least if we lose a first-rounder we can scrap the rebuild and go win-now!

Post #1026 » by **humanrefutation** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:18 am

JEIS wrote:They offered a second for kidd
http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=11153896

L&E were foolish to think that they could make this deal happen without it leaking to his GM. It's also an unprofessional way to deal with Larry Drew.

FlagsFlyForever · Post #1027 » by **FlagsFlyForever** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:20 am

humanrefutation wrote:
JEIS wrote:They offered a second for kidd
http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=11153896

L&E were foolish to think that they could make this deal happen without it leaking to his GM. It's also an unprofessional way to deal with Larry Drew.

We don't know what Larry Drew knows. The owners could've been upfront and honest with him from the get-go.

xTitan · Post #1028 » by **xTitan** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:20 am

Just got home and have seen the latest developments, haven't read the thread, but guessing an intelligent poster has already pointed this out....can anyone else name an owner who hired an NBA coach before hiring a GM?? You guessed it, the great Herb Kohl, it appears nothing has really changed at all.

SeaLORD_0318 · Post #1029 » by **SeaLORD_0318** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:20 am

Zeezprah wrote:i'd honestly like it if kidd were just head coach. i've always thought he'd make a good one, just thought he could've used a few years as an assistant first.

call me crazy, but i think i could really get behind a hammond/morway gm with conditions set that we will build through the draft, and kidd as head coach.

would love to get a complete basketball nerd as POBO.

I share the same thoughts.

TroyD92 · Post #1030 » by **TroyD92** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:21 am

xTitan wrote:Just got home and have seen the latest developments, haven't read the thread, but guessing an intelligent poster has already pointed this out....can anyone else name an owner who hired an NBA coach before hiring a GM?? You guessed it, the great Herb Kohl, it appears nothing has really changed at all.

Except you're making assumptions about something none of us know.

Profound23 · Post #1031 » by **Profound23** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:25 am

I don't know what you guys know about hedge fund brokers but they are brutal. They only care about two things:winning and money. They will do whatever it takes.

Tanking all of next year? Sure
Hiring a new coach before the old one is fired? Yep!

Lasry and Edens don't care about what we think is underhanded or unprofessional. They care about winning and making money. I understand that and love being a part of any organization that feels this way because you will either prosper while going with the ship, or fall off because you were asleep at the wheel.

EastSideBucksFan · Post #1032 » by **EastSideBucksFan** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:25 am

Chuck Diesel wrote:Just a reminder- on May 29th Paul Henning reported that he was informed (presumably by one of the owners or Alex Lasry) Drew would be gone.

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1324387&start=180

Two Sources in the media informed me by basic deduction that Hammond & Drew's absence from the intro party at McGillicuddy's meant they had no future with the owners.

Lasry & Edens never said anything to me that Drew/Hammond were goners.

machu46 · Post #1033 » by **machu46** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:25 am

I'd imagine it would be pretty difficult to prove that Kidd and Lasry talked before Friday if we haven't heard anything about them being seen together recently right? Can the NBA do like a legit criminal investigation where they forcibly gain access to phone records and whatnot? lol

Sid-Ray-Drew · Post #1034 » by **Sid-Ray-Drew** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:26 am

I would probably give the Nets a 1st if they agreed to take Jim Paschke.

FlagsFlyForever · Post #1035 » by **FlagsFlyForever** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:27 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/KingRichIII/status/483395425194770433[/tweet]

This seems to be the general consensus.

Mr Anonymous · Post #1036 » by **Mr Anonymous** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:27 am

Wait a second, didn't Gery say Kidd had been offered the team president position? Quite the Buck's insider that guy.

Wooderson · Post #1037 » by **Wooderson** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:27 am

I don't see how there wasn't tampering here. Proving it is a different story though.

Carl2680 predicts all of this goes down on Thursday including the part about Kidd coming to Milwaukee. Then Kidd is granted permission to speak with Lasry on Friday? Kidd made his power play knowing a) it either works and he gets a pay bump + more power or b) he gets out from the BKN mess and starts over fresh with an owner he's friends with plus a talented young roster.

Only thing subject to change is when exactly BKN granted Kidd permission.

Max Green · Post #1038 » by **Max Green** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:28 am

Lasry & Edens hire Jason Kidd and they're meddlers just like Kohl because they allegedly didn't let their GM make the decision. Lasry & Edens hire Ettore Messina, David Robinson or some assistant off the Spurs bench and they're facilitators taking our franchise in the right direction.

TroyD92 · Post #1039 » by **TroyD92** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:28 am

You have to prove it. Some internet rumor is not proof.

CanadaBucks · Post #1040 » by **CanadaBucks** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:29 am

ReasonablySober wrote:
BigDoggyStyle wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:So our owners are the dudes making the call on the head coach.

Great.

Would you rather have Hammond make the call? Don't think so.

I'd like our new POBO, one with the qualifications to hold the position, to do so.

They want Kidd at SL?

Do you want the Bucks to hire Jason Kidd as POBO?