Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)?

Bfinkish · Post #1161 » by **Bfinkish** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:32 am

JayMKE wrote:So is Drew still employed or what?

Best possible answer to your question:

Wooderson · Post #1162 » by **Wooderson** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:33 am

Lasry's going to be a pretty hands on owner it seems and probably has just as big of an ego as Kidd. Just have to pray he can keep Kidd in check and they have a fluid working relationship with the rest of the FO.

Bfinkish · Post #1163 » by **Bfinkish** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:34 am

LUKE23 wrote:I guess my question at this point is, "what percentage of Nets fans are upset about Kidd leaving?"

Would be rare to get an honest answer. Fans are quick to turn and just say, "He was actually terrible now that I think about it..."

They will be upset, but will let it go once they get a new hire.

TheWig · Post #1164 » by **TheWig** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:34 am

ampd wrote:One thing I have to hand to the new owners is, they sure seem to be able to convince people to come here.

First Jabari and now Jason Kidd are rumored to have basically forced their way to Milwaukee to the total surprise of all the analysts and ESPN guys who probably occasionally forget we have a team.

That is definitely new.

they forget about every team except for the one Lebron plays for

Wooderson · Post #1165 » by **Wooderson** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:36 am

I think Nets fans are more pissed about the way he left than his they are for losing his coaching ability. They want a 1st rounder or the satisfaction of Kidd not being able to land in his preferred destination.

CanadaBucks · Post #1166 » by **CanadaBucks** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:37 am

emunney wrote:Drew is the last guy I'm worried about. Not that I have anything personal against Drew, but he's getting paid regardless and will not be unemployed for long. He'll wind up on somebody's staff with two salaries. Poor guy.

Assistant?

SkilesTheLimit · Post #1167 » by **SkilesTheLimit** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:39 am

CanadaBucks wrote:
emunney wrote:Drew is the last guy I'm worried about. Not that I have anything personal against Drew, but he's getting paid regardless and will not be unemployed for long. He'll wind up on somebody's staff with two salaries. Poor guy.

Assistant?

He'll be back on the sidelines smacking his lips before you can say Carmex.

For Waukee · Post #1168 » by **For Waukee** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:40 am

Question for you guys,

Is it confirmed that Kidd will be leaving the Nets to coach the Bucks?
A lot of these posts sound as though it's already a done deal.

Forgive me in advance if I missed something.

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CanadaBucks · Post #1169 » by **CanadaBucks** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:41 am

For Waukee wrote:Question for you guys,

Is it confirmed that Kidd will be leaving the Nets to coach the Bucks?
A lot of these posts sound as though it's already a done deal.

Forgive me in advance if I missed something.

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If the Nets agree to a 2nd rounder as compensation it's a done deal evidently

FlagsFlyForever · Post #1170 » by **FlagsFlyForever** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:41 am

Bfinkish wrote:
ElPeregrino wrote:
ampd wrote:One thing I have to hand to the new owners is, they sure seem to be able to convince people to come here.

First Jabari and now Jason Kidd are rumored to have basically forced their way to Milwaukee to the total surprise of all the analysts and ESPN guys who probably occasionally forget we have a team.

That is definitely new.

Forced their way to Milwaukee? Parker was the #2 pick in a two-man draft and Kidd has a long-standing relationship with Lasry.

Convince a big name free agent to come here and I'll be impressed.

Disagree

Parker wanted to be here. He could've just said I want to go to Cle or wanted to go to Philly.

Kidd having the relationship with Lasry is exactly why they are able to convince him to come here.

It's because of the new owners we have this fresh energy already.

I would love for you to be right, and there is a bit of a buzz around the Bucks right now.

But I think the two examples are exceptions to the rule. Do you think the Bucks now have a chance of luring big name free agents here? James? Anthony? Wade? Bosh? Any chance at all? What about next year (Kevin Love?) or in the future? Is there any chance at all a top-flight free agent chooses to come here because they like our owners?

emunney · Post #1171 » by **emunney** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:42 am

By the way, seems like a lot of people have to eat crow on Sports Whispers, because there was obviously something to that Lopez/Sanders/Ersan rumor they tweeted.

Post #1172 » by **MickeyDavis** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:42 am

Nets fans level of "anger" will depend on who they get to replace him. Right now they are talking to Mark Jackson.

machu46 · Post #1173 » by **machu46** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:42 am

For Waukee wrote:Question for you guys,

Is it confirmed that Kidd will be leaving the Nets to coach the Bucks?
A lot of these posts sound as though it's already a done deal.

Forgive me in advance if I missed something.

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Based on reports, Milwaukee has made their final offer to Brooklyn. If they accept, Milwaukee will have Kidd as their new coach. If they don't, then Milwaukee will walk away and interview other candidates. But we assume Brooklyn will eventually accept the offer rather than just paying Kidd to do nothing or firing him for nothing.

Fresh_Prince12 · Post #1174 » by **Fresh_Prince12** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:43 am

For Waukee wrote:Question for you guys,

Is it confirmed that Kidd will be leaving the Nets to coach the Bucks?
A lot of these posts sound as though it's already a done deal.

Forgive me in advance if I missed something.

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if its official, you'll see a new thread about it. our mods are good at that kind of stuff

stellation · Post #1175 » by **stellation** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:43 am

I don't particularly like Kidd, but don't really have an issue with him as a coach. The Nets started the season comically, but I don't think that was entirely on him. I caught a few games I thought he coached relatively well towards the tail end of the season.

For Waukee · Post #1176 » by **For Waukee** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:44 am

Thanks Canada,

Must've missed that. Seems like a fair deal to be honest. I can't say he was my first choice or I like his "my way or highway" attitude, but he is a step up from Drew.

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Ayt · Post #1177 » by **Ayt** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:47 am

emunney wrote:
LUKE23 wrote:I guess my question at this point is, "what percentage of Nets fans are upset about Kidd leaving?"

I would guess almost zero, but I wonder if that would change under different circumstances. I think the negative attitudes toward him are clustered around his power play (and how he screwed them on the way out as a player) than about his job performance.

People are also operating under the assumption that the self serving story from the side of the Nets that has been leaked (and was incorrect in regards to the position we'd be offering Kidd) is actually true. Maybe Kidd didn't want to be made the Czar of Brooklyn Basketball but did want to a pursue a different opportunity as a coach. It wouldn't surprise me if that reason was that he didn't see eye to eye with Billy King, but I would be leery of believing the story as it has been leaked. People on here are buying in fully to the idea that he is some power crazed sociopath.

If none of this had leaked out and we quietly announced that we had hired Kidd away from Brooklyn as the coach and sent them a 2nd for compensation, what would the outlook be (or it leaked we had asked permission to speak with him and wanted him as a coach but all the front office bull **** wasn't part of the narrative)? Then it is hinted that Kidd wanted to move on because he clashed with King's vision for the team and people on here would be all like, "Of course he did! King is the worst GM on the planet! LOL Russia!"

People are letting themselves get spun like tops with this story.

CaptainAwesome · Post #1178 » by **CaptainAwesome** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:47 am

LUKE23 wrote:http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/11153896/jason-kidd-join-milwaykee-bucks-brooklyn-nets-take-second-round-pick-compensation?ex_cid=sportscenterFB

Anyone else interpret this to mean that Bone and Friends are safe if this goes through, but not if it doesn't?

bigdog34 · Post #1179 » by **bigdog34** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:48 am

Without watching too much Nets games, what can we expect with his coaching style? Pros/cons?

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Bfinkish · Post #1180 » by **Bfinkish** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:52 am

ElPeregrino wrote:
Bfinkish wrote:
ElPeregrino wrote:Forced their way to Milwaukee? Parker was the #2 pick in a two-man draft and Kidd has a long-standing relationship with Lasry.

Convince a big name free agent to come here and I'll be impressed.

Disagree

Parker wanted to be here. He could've just said I want to go to Cle or wanted to go to Philly.

Kidd having the relationship with Lasry is exactly why they are able to convince him to come here.

It's because of the new owners we have this fresh energy already.

I would love for you to be right, and there is a bit of a buzz around the Bucks right now.

But I think the two examples are exceptions to the rule. Do you think the Bucks now have a chance of luring big name free agents here? James? Anthony? Wade? Bosh? Any chance at all? What about next year (Kevin Love?) or in the future? Is there any chance at all a top-flight free agent chooses to come here because they like our owners?

Landing a top FA now? No.

In order to lure those big FA's:
You have to have a good track record, new facilities (New stadium), and good ownership. These guys I believe will have that and time will tell.

Parker WANTS to be here.

Kidd WANTS to come here.

You start putting people in good spots and you start to see the rest coming...

This isn't coincidental.

*Edit: Just because you can land a TOP TIER FA doesn't really mean anything, nor does it guarantee a Championship.

Do you want the Bucks to hire Jason Kidd as POBO?