Lowry Thread (Woj: Mulling HOU/TOR offers; LAL/MIA want in)

[Son Goku 25]

Good move. People tend to do strange and weird things at midnight.

lol Our boy BC went hard to get Kapono at midnight, so yeah, you're right haha

[Son Goku 25]

I do believe we'll re-sign him, if we don't for whatever reason I think Masai will go hard after a starting PG because he wants to continue to grow with the core. Masai wants to go deeper in the playoffs and make a good offer to another free agent the following couple of summers. He knows we need to establish a winning culture in order to attract the free agents so there's no way in hell he's letting go of Lowry or not trying to bring in a good replacement for him.

[UnderdogRaptors]

I do believe we'll re-sign him, if we don't for whatever reason I think Masai will go hard after a starting PG because he wants to continue to grow with the core. Masai wants to go deeper in the playoffs and make a good offer to another free agent the following couple of summers. He knows we need to establish a winning culture in order to attract the free agents so there's no way in hell he's letting go of Lowry or not trying to bring in a good replacement for him.

Do you see us as a 2nd round team with KL?

[Bankai]

This is critical in that it has more to do than just Lowry. If Lowry resigns it will present to the NBA that times ARE changing with this organization and that the Raptors can keep guys and they want to stay here. Keeping the Starting Lineup together for a couple more years is also essential in growth and stability.

[WigginsNation]

This is critical in that it has more to do than just Lowry. If Lowry resigns it will present to the NBA that times ARE changing with this organization and that the Raptors can keep guys and they want to stay here. Keeping the Starting Lineup together for a couple more years is also essential in growth and stability.

Actually thats what people said when VC re-signed and when Hakeem the Dream signed with us. The whole "times are changing" line.

Nonetheless re-signing Lowry is still very important for some of the reasons you pointed above.

[Double Helix]

I really hope we don't get Drake to sing him "Marvin's Room." It could make things worse.

KYLE: "Are you drunk right now?"

DRAKE: "I'm just saying... you could do better.
Tell me... have you... heard that lately?
I’m just sayin’ you could do better
And I’ll start hatin’ only if you make me"

LEIWEKE: "Don't sing that one! Sing that starting from the bottom one!"

KYLE: "Guys, thanks for calling but I gotta go. It's Lebron on the other line."

These imaginary conversations you post... did you spend a lot of time alone in your room as a child?

I actually write scripts for fun in my spare time so that's where it comes from. Some people are quick with the visuals in photoshop. I'm quick with words (Wish I was quicker with Photoshop, TBH!)

Anyway, the format (which is different than screenplay format because who would have the time to format?) seems to have taken off oddly enough. When I first started playing out stupid fictional scenes like this on here a few years back I was one of the only posters doing it. Some people would quote them and write that it made them laugh but it wasn't until they added the And1 when I realized some actually did like them. Now, I see other posters writing in the same format all the time. I like it. Not everything can be Memes, GIFs or serious comments.

But to answer your question... No, I was outside playing sports most of the time.

[m83588333]

This is critical in that it has more to do than just Lowry. If Lowry resigns it will present to the NBA that times ARE changing with this organization and that the Raptors can keep guys and they want to stay here. Keeping the Starting Lineup together for a couple more years is also essential in growth and stability.

Actually thats what people said when VC re-signed and when Hakeem the Dream signed with us. The whole "times are changing" line.

Nonetheless re-signing Lowry is still very important for some of the reasons you pointed above.

Times did change. Raptors FO changed it right back.

[Flight33]

Nothing more than 12.5 please

[Son Goku 25]

I do believe we'll re-sign him, if we don't for whatever reason I think Masai will go hard after a starting PG because he wants to continue to grow with the core. Masai wants to go deeper in the playoffs and make a good offer to another free agent the following couple of summers. He knows we need to establish a winning culture in order to attract the free agents so there's no way in hell he's letting go of Lowry or not trying to bring in a good replacement for him.

Do you see us as a 2nd round team with KL?

Honestly, that all depends on if our guys make the needed improvements as a group and a lot of that also depends on how good the other teams get(such as cats, wiz,bulls, atl etc) I don't see why we can't, my expectations for next year are 2nd round if we keep the core/add a couple of pieces/dd/ross/jv all improve etc.

[Dr Octagon]

Shouldn't Raps speak to LeBron at midnight?

No. Thats the whole point. They will not waste time on stuff that won't happen. 12:01AM, the mission is to contact Lowry and sign him ASAP. Let Miami, Houston etc. work on Lebron.

Obviously it will never happen if they don't call.

[Skeezo]

Even if we overpay Lowry, he can always be traded.

The Knicks just traded an overpaid aging Tyson Chandler. The Rockets backloaded Asik's contract like crazy and just dumped him for a 1st rounder. If you're Masai you MUST retain Lowry because even if he falls off, there will be teams who want him. The Rockets right now have Lin's fat contract and teams are apparently lining up to take it.

It's a nice thought, but let's ask Detroit how they are doing with J.Smith's contract... Yes we will probably be able to trade him but for what? 10m/yr Kyle Lowry is a tradable asset you will get value in return, a 12-13m/yr Kyle Lowry is not... Yes, the Rockets just trade Asik for a 1st Rd. It was also the last year of his deal, that only takes up 8.5m on the cap for a defensive bigman... Big difference between Kyle Lowry at 12m with say 3yrs still left on his deal...

Few things. First off, that's assuming Kyle falls off the face of the Earth with his play. Second thing, Josh Smith is totally different in terms of what he brings to a team and isn't that leader player on a team who takes and makes big shots and makes big plays. If Lin can be traded, Kyle can be traded. If Rudy can be traded, Kyle can be traded. I doubt anyone here would even think to trade Gay for Kyle.

-Before this past year J.Smith was a far superior player then Kyle even on an analytics level & from a trade value perspective... 1.5 yrs ago you could never get J.Smith for Kyle Lowry...
-Before this past year Kyle was not a leader & may not have had as many head scratching issues as J.Smith but he had them... Who's to say he doesn't revert?
-Yes, anybody is tradable, but it is a question of what you can get back in return... I would rather it be teams clamoring to get our guys rather then us combing the entire NBA to find something half decent in return for our guys
-All I am saying we you equated $$ you are also talking about years as well... I don't mind paying Lowry 12m over 3yrs but when you add that 4th year it makes a huge difference in GM's minds looking to acquire if things were to change & go south anytime soon...

[m83588333]

It's a nice thought, but let's ask Detroit how they are doing with J.Smith's contract... Yes we will probably be able to trade him but for what? 10m/yr Kyle Lowry is a tradable asset you will get value in return, a 12-13m/yr Kyle Lowry is not... Yes, the Rockets just trade Asik for a 1st Rd. It was also the last year of his deal, that only takes up 8.5m on the cap for a defensive bigman... Big difference between Kyle Lowry at 12m with say 3yrs still left on his deal...

Few things. First off, that's assuming Kyle falls off the face of the Earth with his play. Second thing, Josh Smith is totally different in terms of what he brings to a team and isn't that leader player on a team who takes and makes big shots and makes big plays. If Lin can be traded, Kyle can be traded. If Rudy can be traded, Kyle can be traded. I doubt anyone here would even think to trade Gay for Kyle.

-Before this past year J.Smith was a far superior player then Kyle even on an analytics level & from a trade value perspective... 1.5 yrs ago you could never get J.Smith for Kyle Lowry...
-Before this past year Kyle was not a leader & may not have had as many head scratching issues as J.Smith but he had them... Who's to say he doesn't revert?
-Yes, anybody is tradable, but it is a question of what you can get back in return... I would rather it be teams clamoring to get our guys rather then us combing the entire NBA to find something half decent in return for our guys
-All I am saying we you equated $$ you are also talking about years as well... I don't mind paying Lowry 12m over 3yrs but when you add that 4th year it makes a huge difference in GM's minds looking to acquire if things were to change & go south anytime soon...

He led Houston to the playoffs then sat behind Calderon because of Casey.

[mintsa]

Shouldn't Raps speak to LeBron at midnight?

No. Thats the whole point. They will not waste time on stuff that won't happen. 12:01AM, the mission is to contact Lowry and sign him ASAP. Let Miami, Houston etc. work on Lebron.

Obviously it will never happen if they don't call.

I know what your saying. "You can't win the lottery if you don't play!"

But minutes matter at 12:01am you have to attack full force on Lowry. Not 12:10 or 12:30 because we wanted to at least "take a stab at Lebron".

[UnderdogRaptors]

I do believe we'll re-sign him, if we don't for whatever reason I think Masai will go hard after a starting PG because he wants to continue to grow with the core. Masai wants to go deeper in the playoffs and make a good offer to another free agent the following couple of summers. He knows we need to establish a winning culture in order to attract the free agents so there's no way in hell he's letting go of Lowry or not trying to bring in a good replacement for him.

Do you see us as a 2nd round team with KL?

Honestly, that all depends on if our guys make the needed improvements as a group and a lot of that also depends on how good the other teams get(such as cats, wiz,bulls, atl etc) I don't see why we can't, my expectations for next year are 2nd round if we keep the core/add a couple of pieces/dd/ross/jv all improve etc.

I won't lie I will be shook if we lose in the first round again, like you said it all depends on the development of Ross and JV the most IMO if they don't show flashes of taking the next step we are one and done again. The ball is really in Lowry's court if he wants the mulla he comes back but if hes serious about a title idk how he would consider us were not even close.

[Lazy]

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First-name basis

This guy has future Ric Bucher written all over him

[Bankai]

http://espn.go.com/nba/features/playerForecast

While you wait.....

So Lowry is coming back to the Raptors with an outside chance of going to the Kings.

[suntzuballin]

the rumour b4 free agency was foretelling he isnt favouring the raptors just be ready for anything ..cole our lin to be new pg on the raps.

[SkywalkerAC]

I do believe we'll re-sign him, if we don't for whatever reason I think Masai will go hard after a starting PG because he wants to continue to grow with the core. Masai wants to go deeper in the playoffs and make a good offer to another free agent the following couple of summers. He knows we need to establish a winning culture in order to attract the free agents so there's no way in hell he's letting go of Lowry or not trying to bring in a good replacement for him.

Not really possible with no cap space. We'd have the MLE to play with, not sure we'd land much better than Vas.

The path to competing "in the now" is paved with signing Lowry.