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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1901 » by mrknowitall215 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 2:27 pm

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Sachmo wrote:I guess I want at least one dependable outside shooter in my starting 5. Hopefully one of Kemba, Stephenson or even the starting Pf can be that person.


I understand your stance, but there's not really any competent starters on the free agent market that are 'legit 3-point threats' unless you're interested in Trevor Ariza or optimistic enough to believe we can land Carmelo Anthony. Neither of Gordon Hayward & Chandler Parsons fair more than marginally better or similar to Lance Stephenson in that area as it may superficially appear

That's why I'm not that excited about Charlotte overpaying in this free agency market



Technically, if your going off last season, then Gordon Hayward is not a significant upgrade at 3 point shooing, however, if you look at his collective career, then you would see he has the potential to be a reliable outside scoring threat.


Well, 'technically' he's a decent 3-point shooter at 37% for his career so far, but he's inconsistent. I can only elaborate on his prowess beyond the arc as a whole. I can't depend on him to produce the same efficiency that he put up 2 years ago. I'll stand by 'what have you done for me lately?" because that's what's current. Even in college at Butler he was a inconsistent 3-point shooter, shooting 45% his freshman season followed by only 29% in his sophomore campaign. There's no consistency in Hayward's 3-point shot based on symmetry over the past 6 years but inconsistency
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1902 » by JDR720 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 2:49 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/status/483978076741988352[/tweet]
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1903 » by mrknowitall215 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 2:52 pm

JDR720 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/status/483978076741988352[/tweet]


I want him if we can find somebody to dump Gary Neal on. I want Anthony Morrow on our roster, but I don't think I would want his presence at the expense of CDR though, and that's why I said that we should relinquish Neal
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1904 » by JDR720 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 2:52 pm

Anthony Morrow, Charlotte NC native, 45% 3pt shooter, cheap FA... whats not to love? i hope we get him
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1905 » by JDR720 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 2:54 pm

If this FA period goes anything like the FA period I just had on 2k14 I will be very happy, i signed Monta Ellis, Kevin Love and Al Jefferson, I don't have any cap space for 4 years but its ok.
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Post#1906 » by BobsBuddy » Tue Jul 1, 2014 2:56 pm

:D :D :nod: :nod: Remember these names Hayward SG/SF and Farmar PG...one or both maybe coming here?
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Post#1907 » by ARHornet » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:05 pm

What is this about McRoberts and the Knicks?
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1908 » by JDR720 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:12 pm

ARHornet wrote:What is this about McRoberts and the Knicks?

[tweet]https://twitter.com/KnicksBuzz/status/483989805756190721[/tweet]

Also the Blazers
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Post#1909 » by GoBobs » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:14 pm

I will be perfectly happy if we don't sign anyone. We don't really need anyone except maybe a back up PG. Our team has plenty of talent. Even if McBob leaves we have depth there. Just don't give out any bad contracts. If a difference maker is not there to sign for a reasonable amount there is no point in talking ourselves into a lesser talent.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1910 » by ARHornet » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:14 pm

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ARHornet wrote:What is this about McRoberts and the Knicks?

[tweet]https://twitter.com/KnicksBuzz/status/483989805756190721[/tweet]

Also the Blazers

Thanks. I saw the Blazers last night but hadn't seen a source on the Knicks.

We better re-sign him...
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1911 » by MasterIchiro » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:17 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
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I understand your stance, but there's not really any competent starters on the free agent market that are 'legit 3-point threats' unless you're interested in Trevor Ariza or optimistic enough to believe we can land Carmelo Anthony. Neither of Gordon Hayward & Chandler Parsons fair more than marginally better or similar to Lance Stephenson in that area as it may superficially appear

That's why I'm not that excited about Charlotte overpaying in this free agency market



Technically, if your going off last season, then Gordon Hayward is not a significant upgrade at 3 point shooing, however, if you look at his collective career, then you would see he has the potential to be a reliable outside scoring threat.


Well, 'technically' he's a decent 3-point shooter at 37% for his career so far, but he's inconsistent. I can only elaborate on his prowess beyond the arc as a whole. I can't depend on him to produce the same efficiency that he put up 2 years ago. I'll stand by 'what have you done for me lately?" because that's what's current. Even in college at Butler he was a inconsistent 3-point shooter, shooting 45% his freshman season followed by only 29% in his sophomore campaign. There's no consistency in Hayward's 3-point shot based on symmetry over the past 6 years but inconsistency


Yeah what's up with his volatility? He's a lock down closer one year, next year can't find the plate. One thing he consistently does is make plays though. Shooting + playmaking is always a valuable combination. Plus at 6' 8" he has solid size. For me he's consolation for missing out on Nik Stauskas.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1912 » by JDR720 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:18 pm

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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1913 » by mrknowitall215 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:20 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:
Lwcasu wrote:

Technically, if your going off last season, then Gordon Hayward is not a significant upgrade at 3 point shooing, however, if you look at his collective career, then you would see he has the potential to be a reliable outside scoring threat.


Well, 'technically' he's a decent 3-point shooter at 37% for his career so far, but he's inconsistent. I can only elaborate on his prowess beyond the arc as a whole. I can't depend on him to produce the same efficiency that he put up 2 years ago. I'll stand by 'what have you done for me lately?" because that's what's current. Even in college at Butler he was a inconsistent 3-point shooter, shooting 45% his freshman season followed by only 29% in his sophomore campaign. There's no consistency in Hayward's 3-point shot based on symmetry over the past 6 years but inconsistency


Yeah what's up with his volatility? He's a lock down closer one year, next year can't find the plate. One thing he consistently does is make plays though. Shooting + playmaking is always a valuable combination. Plus at 6' 8" he has solid size. For me he's consolation for missing out on Nik Stauskas.


If we can get Hayward for cheaper than Stephenson, I'm all for it. I've been a fan since his Butler days. I just think he's going to be a difficult frisbee to fetch
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1914 » by mrknowitall215 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:22 pm

JDR720 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/483991899695374337[/tweet]


Classy organization. Bye bye CDR? :-?
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1915 » by JDR720 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:23 pm

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JDR720 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/483991899695374337[/tweet]


Classy organization. Bye bye CDR? :-?

I think we resign him also

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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1916 » by mrknowitall215 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:27 pm

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mrknowitall215 wrote:Classy organization. Bye bye CDR? :-?

I think we resign him also

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CDR playing both SF and SG


I would hope so. It would be kind of uncivil not to re-sign CDR when he pretty much performed the way we could only hope Taylor could
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1917 » by JDR720 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:28 pm

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we will fine somewhere to dump Gerald
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Post#1918 » by mrknowitall215 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:29 pm

JDR720 wrote:Lance-Morrow-Neal
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we will find somewhere to dump Gerald


FTFY 8-)
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1919 » by fatlever » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:29 pm

BTW... lots of news and rumors coming out now, so lets try to keep the non-stop Lance Stephenson talk contained to the dedicated Lance thread. The Lance discussions really pollute this main thread, which is ideally served to discuss breaking news and rumors. Not all of us want to read re-hashed (for 1000 times) opinions about why or why not Lance should be a Hornet.

Thanks,

and if any of you feel the discussion of any other particular free-agent is derailing the purpose of this thread, feel free to create a dedicated separate thread for that player.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1920 » by ARHornet » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:32 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
JDR720 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/483991899695374337[/tweet]


Classy organization. Bye bye CDR? :-?

We still have room for CDR as it stands now. Even if we bring in a guy like Stephenson, then we could shed Hendo or Neal to make room. CDR certainly could be upgraded, but I hope he returns. Not including MKG, he was our best wing last year.

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