Melo 12: RealGM takes over the United Center

Red Larrivee · Post #1541 » by **Red Larrivee** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 2:12 am

Shill4Tyrus24 wrote:Top 2015 free agents:

Rondo
Marc Gasol
Aldridge
Love

Who are the Knicks assured of getting next year?

All of those guys may not even make it to free agency.

Supposedly Gasol. Makes sense given he fits the triangle perfectly.

Proven_Winner · Post #1542 » by **Proven_Winner** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 2:12 am

AAU Teammate wrote:
LoveDaBoo wrote:You say that like NYK's 2015 plan is some kind of lock. It isn't. Lots of variables. One thing's for sure: next season on the Bulls is a contender on paper. That's 1 of 4 seasons he'd sign for.

"lots of variables"

on this board, the other teams have the variables, but our two knees operated superstar is not a variable..? Our coach and GM who hate each other? Noah with his knee history?

Knicks could be better than us in a year. Probably low chances, but there is some chance of it. We can't guarantee the Knicks are going to be horrible and we're going to be amazing.

We pretty much have nowhere to go but up. I know your trying to be reasonable, but let's be honest the Knicks weren't better than us with Felton and Chandler so adding Calderon and Dalembert doesn't make that much of a difference.

keloms · Post #1543 » by **keloms** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 2:12 am

If you didn't expect the Knicks (specifically Dolan) to offer the full max offer, you're a fool. This was the biggest no-brainer of the summer.

LoveDaBoo · Post #1544 » by **LoveDaBoo** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 2:12 am

AAU Teammate wrote:
LoveDaBoo wrote:You say that like NYK's 2015 plan is some kind of lock. It isn't. Lots of variables. One thing's for sure: next season on the Bulls is a contender on paper. That's 1 of 4 seasons he'd sign for.

"lots of variables"

on this board, the other teams have the variables, but our two knees operated superstar is not a variable..? Our coach and GM who hate each other? Noah with his knee history?

Knicks could be better than us in a year. Probably low chances, but there is some chance of it. We can't guarantee the Knicks are going to be horrible and we're going to be amazing.

That's kinda what "lots of variables means." Not sure why you quoted me.

MisterRoy · Post #1545 » by **MisterRoy** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 2:12 am

Shill4Tyrus24 wrote:Top 2015 free agents:

Rondo
Marc Gasol
Aldridge
Love

Who are the Knicks assured of getting next year?

All of those guys may not even make it to free agency.

Even if the Knicks got Rondo, they still go nowhere with Miami and Chicago.

Post #1546 » by **Payt10** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 2:13 am

The Knicks also have a rookie head coach who's never coached a day in his life and has to teach an offense that is notoriously very difficult to master. Unless their plan involves Lebron or Kevin Love, who are they going to acquire that can dramatically impact their championship aspirations from the start? They need a lot of help.

Proven_Winner · Post #1547 » by **Proven_Winner** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 2:13 am

Red Larrivee wrote:
Shill4Tyrus24 wrote:Top 2015 free agents:

Rondo
Marc Gasol
Aldridge
Love

Who are the Knicks assured of getting next year?

All of those guys may not even make it to free agency.

Supposedly Gasol. Makes sense given he fits the triangle perfectly.

We might as well take Aldridge off that list POR already offering the max.

Shill · Post #1548 » by **Shill** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 2:14 am

Red Larrivee wrote:
Shill4Tyrus24 wrote:Top 2015 free agents:

Rondo
Marc Gasol
Aldridge
Love

Who are the Knicks assured of getting next year?

All of those guys may not even make it to free agency.

Supposedly Gasol. Makes sense given he fits the triangle perfectly.

Gasol's a good player, but they're going to need more than that.

nomad · Post #1549 » by **nomad** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 2:14 am

Michael Jackson wrote:
nomad wrote:
Michael Jackson wrote:

Sorta. The trading of Chandler hurt a bit but they have two huge contracts coming off the books still. Boozer might make a third and Phil can go into full rebuild mode.

Two? Amare and who? Also I think by your response you thought I meant sign and trade with Melo to the Bulls since you included Booz in the mix... I meant if Melo stays in NY and signs for 130 over 5 years, that will really hurt their rebuilding process. If I was the Knicks - I honestly wouldn't want Melo because I would prefer the cap space and to make a full rebuild. Its going to take a long time to right that ship.

2 with bargs. Is he 2015?

Oh you're right- I forgot he even existed. And my brother and some of my friends are Knicks fans so that says something...haha

Tenchi Ryu · Post #1550 » by **Tenchi Ryu** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 2:14 am

Michael Jackson wrote:The one thing to not overlook is this and it is minor, Melo has zero percent of being compared to Jordan. Jordan's house is a compliment to him to win in where the Mecca they eat them up and spit them out. Patrick Ewing though does have snickers.

Damn the legacy, MJ probably gonna be up in Melo's ear "go to Chicago and lets go make this shoe money". I know I'm dropping money for some red and black Melo's.

Post #1551 » by **Michael Jackson** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 2:14 am

Shill4Tyrus24 wrote:Top 2015 free agents:

Rondo
Marc Gasol
Aldridge
Love

Who are the Knicks assured of getting next year?

All of those guys may not even make it to free agency.

I doubt love honestly. The other three I can see potentially but trades can also be made. I really think love is going to be a laker.

Polynice4Pippen · Post #1552 » by **Polynice4Pippen** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 2:14 am

AAU Teammate wrote:
LoveDaBoo wrote:You say that like NYK's 2015 plan is some kind of lock. It isn't. Lots of variables. One thing's for sure: next season on the Bulls is a contender on paper. That's 1 of 4 seasons he'd sign for.

"lots of variables"

on this board, the other teams have the variables, but our two knees operated superstar is not a variable..? Our coach and GM who hate each other? Noah with his knee history?

Knicks could be better than us in a year. Probably low chances, but there is some chance of it. We can't guarantee the Knicks are going to be horrible and we're going to be amazing.

The Knicks weren't even better than the Bulls last year without Derrick and Luol and with a healthy Melo. They have no system in place, an unproven coach, and only a handful of magic beans for summer 2015 and not even that many franchise changing superstars on the market.

Eduardo · Post #1553 » by **Eduardo** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 2:15 am

MnM24 wrote:
Eduardo wrote:i hear obama made a video for melo

you heard that from this forum and it was a joke

i was actually just maknig that up. funny somebody else thought of that lol

MisterRoy · Post #1554 » by **MisterRoy** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 2:15 am

Tenchi Ryu wrote:
Michael Jackson wrote:The one thing to not overlook is this and it is minor, Melo has zero percent of being compared to Jordan. Jordan's house is a compliment to him to win in where the Mecca they eat them up and spit them out. Patrick Ewing though does have snickers.

Damn the legacy, MJ probably gonna be up in Melo's ear "go to Chicago and lets go make this shoe money". I know I'm dropping money for some red and black Melo's.

I bet he does sell more shoes here.

LoveDaBoo · Post #1555 » by **LoveDaBoo** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 2:15 am

Shill4Tyrus24 wrote:Top 2015 free agents:

Rondo
Marc Gasol
Aldridge
Love

Who are the Knicks assured of getting next year?

All of those guys may not even make it to free agency.

Yep. Love might get traded this summer. NYK will have flexibility after sacrificing yet another year, but man, the upside is very uncertain.

jc23 · Post #1556 » by **jc23** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 2:16 am

Shill4Tyrus24 wrote:Top 2015 free agents:

Rondo
Marc Gasol
Aldridge
Love

Who are the Knicks assured of getting next year?

All of those guys may not even make it to free agency.

only chance is rondo but boston will find a team to take him. and i assume its only if he extends.

love wont be available next summer for sure. and no way memphis and portland is letting their bigs walk.

so........Roy Hibbert? 8-)

AAU Teammate · Post #1557 » by **AAU Teammate** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 2:16 am

LoveDaBoo wrote:
AAU Teammate wrote:
LoveDaBoo wrote:You say that like NYK's 2015 plan is some kind of lock. It isn't. Lots of variables. One thing's for sure: next season on the Bulls is a contender on paper. That's 1 of 4 seasons he'd sign for.

"lots of variables"

on this board, the other teams have the variables, but our two knees operated superstar is not a variable..? Our coach and GM who hate each other? Noah with his knee history?

Knicks could be better than us in a year. Probably low chances, but there is some chance of it. We can't guarantee the Knicks are going to be horrible and we're going to be amazing.

That's kinda what "lots of variables means." Not sure why you quoted me.

agreeing that NYK has lots of variables but pointing out that we have many question marks too.

Indomitable · Post #1558 » by **Indomitable** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 2:17 am

ScottyKCMO wrote:So the Knicks, one year away from being able to clear the decks and properly rebuild, are offering the largest guaranteed contract in the history of the league to a 30 year old player who didn't even make 3rd team all-NBA last year?

Makes sense.

I want him to take the dough. It would really hurt the Knicks.

IndianPlaya17 · Post #1559 » by **IndianPlaya17** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 2:17 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/BMarshall/status/484150335364423680[/tweet]

Game. Set. Match. Brandon Marshall has spoken. **** you, NY. Ask Eli Manning and his dumb face to recruit for you!

LoveDaBoo · Post #1560 » by **LoveDaBoo** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 2:18 am

AAU Teammate wrote:
LoveDaBoo wrote:
AAU Teammate wrote:
"lots of variables"

on this board, the other teams have the variables, but our two knees operated superstar is not a variable..? Our coach and GM who hate each other? Noah with his knee history?

Knicks could be better than us in a year. Probably low chances, but there is some chance of it. We can't guarantee the Knicks are going to be horrible and we're going to be amazing.

That's kinda what "lots of variables means." Not sure why you quoted me.

agreeing that NYK has lots of variables but pointing out that we have many question marks too.

I meant both, pretty obviously. No matter what he chooses, there's a billion moving parts involved.