Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew

[Magilla_Gorilla]

Cap gurus and CBA experts is the below trade legal.

If NY refuses to engage the Bulls in a S&T and we can't find a 3rd team to take Boozer; can the below trade happen?

Get Orlando or Utah to S&T Melo at the 4yr/$96mm contract amount to the Bulls.

Bulls amnesty Boozer, then send Dunleavy, Randolph and the non-guaranteeds to Orl or UTH, along with our pick in 2015 and the SAC pick as compensation for doing us a solid?

I think the most we could start Melo at in this scenario would be close to $20mm, this is essentially the Deeks trade but with Orl or UTH facilitating the deal of NY doesn't want to cooperate. This could force NY to play ball if Melo says he wants the Bulls.

No. You can only S&T your own FA - and they have to have been on the roster in the previous year (Keith Van Horn rule)

[Chi]

Bulls fans what do you think about this from the Knicks board

If we work with Chicago, then the IDEAL package is..

Boozer + Mirotic + McDermott + 2015 first + SAC 2015 fist + 2017 first + a couple of second round picks + Jimmy Butler

for

Melo (and JR if we can make it work under cap).

Well I personally wouldn't trade that for Melo and whoever the Knicks 2nd and 3rd best players are.

[TruthSerum]

Joe Cowley on The Herd just gave the Bulls a 30% shot.

Cowley has been consistently saying 30% for about a week now.

He also regurgitated the same $15M garbage. Gawd i wish I could get better radio here...

If GarPax are only offering 4yrs $60M we can put this thread to bed.

[RememberLu]

You guys on the Knicks forum are crazy if you think the Bulls would ever entertain that offer. You realize that we are not the desperate ones right? If Melo doesnt want to come here, we can try to trade for Love or get someone else and keep all those assets

there's no way the Knicks FO is gonna rob the Bull blind in any S&T

[fleet]

Bulls fans what do you think about this from the Knicks board

If we work with Chicago, then the IDEAL package is..

Boozer + Mirotic + McDermott + 2015 first + SAC 2015 fist + 2017 first + a couple of second round picks + Jimmy Butler

for

Melo (and JR if we can make it work under cap).

[Magilla_Gorilla]

Their graphic artists ain't got nothin on us.

where are the fans?

Houston doesn't have fans (as a Houston resident I feel qualified to say this).

[ingvald]

Cap gurus and CBA experts is the below trade legal.

If NY refuses to engage the Bulls in a S&T and we can't find a 3rd team to take Boozer; can the below trade happen?

Get Orlando or Utah to S&T Melo at the 4yr/$96mm contract amount to the Bulls.

Bulls amnesty Boozer, then send Dunleavy, Randolph and the non-guaranteeds to Orl or UTH, along with our pick in 2015 and the SAC pick as compensation for doing us a solid?

I think the most we could start Melo at in this scenario would be close to $20mm, this is essentially the Deeks trade but with Orl or UTH facilitating the deal of NY doesn't want to cooperate. This could force NY to play ball if Melo says he wants the Bulls.

delete

[coldfish]

Knicks fans need to keep the capspace scenario in mind. Chicago isn't going to give up significantly more than Gibson and Dunleavey. There is a top cap on the value Chicago will send out. Giving up significantly more than that's foolish.

If Melo demands it and NY demands it, then screw them both. Lance Stephenson here we come.

[Magilla_Gorilla]

Cap gurus and CBA experts is the below trade legal.

If NY refuses to engage the Bulls in a S&T and we can't find a 3rd team to take Boozer; can the below trade happen?

Get Orlando or Utah to S&T Melo at the 4yr/$96mm contract amount to the Bulls.

Bulls amnesty Boozer, then send Dunleavy, Randolph and the non-guaranteeds to Orl or UTH, along with our pick in 2015 and the SAC pick as compensation for doing us a solid?

I think the most we could start Melo at in this scenario would be close to $20mm, this is essentially the Deeks trade but with Orl or UTH facilitating the deal of NY doesn't want to cooperate. This could force NY to play ball if Melo says he wants the Bulls.

You just blew my mind.

Orlando signs him outright and then trades him to the Bulls? Hot D-Tamale that's insane. Is that possible?

No.

[Mech Engineer]

Look for the Bulls to spread the news(whether they are or not) that they are in advanced discussions for a Love trade soon. This puts pressure on NY.

[Chitownbulls]

Bulls fans what do you think about this from the Knicks board

If we work with Chicago, then the IDEAL package is..

Boozer + Mirotic + McDermott + 2015 first + SAC 2015 fist + 2017 first + a couple of second round picks + Jimmy Butler

for

Melo (and JR if we can make it work under cap).

Never....

Ideal trade would be Boozer, Snell, MDJ, Brewer, Anmundson, bag of Dorito chips, can of tuna an a bottled water for Melo

We can make the chips cooooool ranch too

[mpharris36]

Bulls fans what do you think about this from the Knicks board

If we work with Chicago, then the IDEAL package is..

Boozer + Mirotic + McDermott + 2015 first + SAC 2015 fist + 2017 first + a couple of second round picks + Jimmy Butler

for

Melo (and JR if we can make it work under cap).

No. Would rather trade Gibson and just give Melo his money that way.

I place a high value on Gibson, but there is no way I trade Mirotic, McDermott, Butler and 3 picks just to keep him. The Bulls also lose the MLE by dumping Gibson but so be it.

Bulls trade: Gibson, Dunleavey to someone
Bulls receive: Future 1st.
Bulls sign: Melo at 4/96

NY receives: Nothing

not saying I would propose the above trade (think that is too much as well) - you can keep McDermott.

But Melo isn't going to Chicago without Taj. That has been pretty clear. So it would be no Melo for you as well.

[ingvald]

Cap gurus and CBA experts is the below trade legal.

If NY refuses to engage the Bulls in a S&T and we can't find a 3rd team to take Boozer; can the below trade happen?

Get Orlando or Utah to S&T Melo at the 4yr/$96mm contract amount to the Bulls.

Bulls amnesty Boozer, then send Dunleavy, Randolph and the non-guaranteeds to Orl or UTH, along with our pick in 2015 and the SAC pick as compensation for doing us a solid?

I think the most we could start Melo at in this scenario would be close to $20mm, this is essentially the Deeks trade but with Orl or UTH facilitating the deal of NY doesn't want to cooperate. This could force NY to play ball if Melo says he wants the Bulls.

How dare you quote me before my edit!

No.

[Magilla_Gorilla]

Knicks fans need to keep the capspace scenario in mind. Chicago isn't going to give up significantly more than Gibson and Dunleavey. There is a top cap on the value Chicago will send out. Giving up significantly more than that's foolish.

If Melo demands it and NY demands it, then screw them both. Lance Stephenson here we come.

Apparently trading Chandler and Felton for Calderon's long term deal and a second round pick has got them thinking Phil can move mountains.

[waffle]

not just being a homer, but that is too much. Compare to similar trades that have taken place semi recently. The haul can be quite modest. His possible suitors are becoming fewer as we speak

[kurtatx]

Houston doesn't have fans (as a Houston resident I feel qualified to say this).

It's a Texans town.

[red222]

Bulls fans what do you think about this from the Knicks board

If we work with Chicago, then the IDEAL package is..

Boozer + Mirotic + McDermott + 2015 first + SAC 2015 fist + 2017 first + a couple of second round picks + Jimmy Butler

for

Melo (and JR if we can make it work under cap).

[RedBulls23]

Bulls fans what do you think about this from the Knicks board

If we work with Chicago, then the IDEAL package is..

Boozer + Mirotic + McDermott + 2015 first + SAC 2015 fist + 2017 first + a couple of second round picks + Jimmy Butler

for

Melo (and JR if we can make it work under cap).

I think who ever posted that is completely delusional.

[dmk08]

Bulls fans what do you think about this from the Knicks board

No. Would rather trade Gibson and just give Melo his money that way.

I place a high value on Gibson, but there is no way I trade Mirotic, McDermott, Butler and 3 picks just to keep him. The Bulls also lose the MLE by dumping Gibson but so be it.

Bulls trade: Gibson, Dunleavey to someone
Bulls receive: Future 1st.
Bulls sign: Melo at 4/96

NY receives: Nothing

not saying I would propose the above trade (think that is too much as well) - you can keep McDermott.

But Melo isn't going to Chicago without Taj. That has been pretty clear. So it would be no Melo for you as well.

I think if you were to let us keep McDermott and take a pick away you would get closer to a realistic trade.

[RememberLu]

What are they doing over there on the Knicks board, just thinking up outlandish scenarios where they can fleece the Bulls FO?

Knicks aren't that clever stop pretending like you have some amazing FO/organization thats capable of robbing teams.