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After Melodrama, who's the best shooting guard we can get?

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Post#181 » by BrooklynBulls » Sat Jul 5, 2014 10:52 pm

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Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Isaiah Thomas has the same stats as Kyrie Irving, and the kings don't seem to want him. I'd throw 8-10 million at him. Insurance in case rose is awful. Idk why he isn't being talked about.


Cuz you don't build a win-now roster on the basis that Rose might suck so bad you need a star PG behind him. If we need Thomas, we're screwed. If we don't, we've buried a 10 million dollar player on the bench.


I'd run a 2 point guard lineup for a good chunk of time. Sure Rose would be guarding twos, but there are only a handful of twos that can take advantage of that. I think you'll actually see more 2 point lineups in the future, I'd like the bulls to stay ahead of the curve.

Thomas, Rose
Rose, Butler
McDermott, butler
Gibson, Mirotic
Noah, Gibson

It would be tricky at first, but that team has a ton of talent and playmaking ability, something we've lacked for a while.


You would run a swing rotation of Thomas, Rose at the 2, and McDermott. You're serious about that? That's simply impossible to hide on defense. And Mirotic certainly couldn't play with that group, of course. It's just a bad idea. Your star is a PG, you don't spend big money on the eensiest PG in the league.
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Post#182 » by EastBayFJ » Sat Jul 5, 2014 11:23 pm

MGB8 wrote:I think Stephenson, warts and all, is the best get out ther next to Jimmy (or McBucketts).

But given our struggles, I think a 2nd creator is a priority.

Waiters and Mayo, if either are available for relatively cheap, would be nice gets (better than as Stuckey because of shooting ability).

Grievis Vasquez would be an unconventional pick, but he is 6'6 and can run in a 2 point guard lineup like he did with Kyle Lowry. Alec Burks is another legit option who can both shoot and create.


But isn't Lance the 2nd creator / handling option ?
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Post#183 » by berk » Sun Jul 6, 2014 5:06 am

After possible Lebron rumors, Cavs trying to seek for cap relief. What do you guys think about Dion Waiters for 2 non-guaranteeds (Brewer Amundson maybe) plus future 2nd pick?

If Melo would not come, it would be a great cheap option. We would have Noah Taj Butler Waiters Rose core, plus a capspace about 12-13 m. You can add Pierce, Mirotic and DJ maybe.

Noah / Smith

Taj / Mirotic

Pierce / McDermott

Butler / Waiters

Rose / DJ

That's pretty solid. Remember the last year. We would add Rose +Mirotic + Pierce + McDermott and Waiters. Serious contender candidate.
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Post#184 » by Carl25 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 5:51 am

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Post#185 » by BrooklynBulls » Sun Jul 6, 2014 5:52 am

berk wrote:After possible Lebron rumors, Cavs trying to seek for cap relief. What do you guys think about Dion Waiters for 2 non-guaranteeds (Brewer Amundson maybe) plus future 2nd pick?


Waiters isnt how they'd get cap relief. They would keep him if LeBron came, and move Bennett or Jack. If you want Waiters, the offer would have to be far better than that.
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Post#186 » by KevinPandawong » Sun Jul 6, 2014 10:13 am

I've stated previously Dragic might be one of the best fits at the 2 for us, however Gerald Green is almost as nice of a fit if Goran proves impossible to take from Phoenix. But I think behind Green there is another great fit in an unsuitable current situation who could be available at a decent price.

I didn't cycle through every page so I'm not sure if the names popped up but with Utah seemingly matching Hayward offers in addition to drafting Exum and having Burke on the roster I feel like Alex Burks would/should be available and is a great target for the Bulls.

After that, I think OJ Mayo is a dark horse high risk high reward candidate we could look at, if there is trust in Thibs taming/grooming him. With Carlisle he was shooting 3's at .40 and putting out 4+ assists; if Thibs can get him to buy into moving the ball and shooting with his feet set and in proper game flow, I'm confident he could break out with us as he did for half a season in Dallas. I mean Nate & JLIII looked unstoppable in Thibs' offense, what could OJ get out of our winning culture and coaching?
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Post#187 » by GMgoran » Sun Jul 6, 2014 11:18 am

berk wrote:After possible Lebron rumors, Cavs trying to seek for cap relief. What do you guys think about Dion Waiters for 2 non-guaranteeds (Brewer Amundson maybe) plus future 2nd pick?


I think that Waiters would be much more expensive than that ... By the way, I like him as a player ... His lack of size is a bit worrying, but I can see him being a good fit in Thibs' system ...
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Post#188 » by Rose2Boozer » Sun Jul 6, 2014 12:04 pm

My Picks: Nick Young or CDR

GarPax Pick: Kirk Hinrich
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Post#189 » by ikeziskash » Sun Jul 6, 2014 12:53 pm

Waiters please.
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Post#190 » by ThePooh » Sun Jul 6, 2014 1:02 pm

Waiters or Parsons
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Post#191 » by ATRAIN53 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 2:38 pm

Stuckey. They should be all in for this kid.

He can score, he's bigger than Derrick and that could cause match-up issues at times.
Get that kid out of Detroit and he'll blossom here.


Should be one of our prime targets.
He's Stephenson without the drama.
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Post#192 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Sun Jul 6, 2014 3:24 pm

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Cuz you don't build a win-now roster on the basis that Rose might suck so bad you need a star PG behind him. If we need Thomas, we're screwed. If we don't, we've buried a 10 million dollar player on the bench.


I'd run a 2 point guard lineup for a good chunk of time. Sure Rose would be guarding twos, but there are only a handful of twos that can take advantage of that. I think you'll actually see more 2 point lineups in the future, I'd like the bulls to stay ahead of the curve.

Thomas, Rose
Rose, Butler
McDermott, butler
Gibson, Mirotic
Noah, Gibson

It would be tricky at first, but that team has a ton of talent and playmaking ability, something we've lacked for a while.


You would run a swing rotation of Thomas, Rose at the 2, and McDermott. You're serious about that? That's simply impossible to hide on defense. And Mirotic certainly couldn't play with that group, of course. It's just a bad idea. Your star is a PG, you don't spend big money on the eensiest PG in the league.


I'm super serious. If 2 all nba defenders in your starting lineup aren't enough (I'm counting taj as one) start butler at the small forward spot and make it three, I don't care.

The guy is literally exactly what we need. Playmaking, ball handling, and shoots 5 threes a game at 35%. Chicago fell in love with both Nate and DJ, and is kid is 10 times the player. Imagine what thibs could get out of him. I'd throw 8-10 million and not even blink. Doesn't seem to matter, we would rather go after over the hill players than a 25 year old due to a couple inches.

And when the inevitable happens, Thomas-butler-douggie-Gibson-Noah is a very good team.
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Post#193 » by johnnyvann840 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 3:42 pm

crazyhog wrote:Ben Mclemore


:lol: Yeah, the guy who had a far worse rookie year than Tony Snell did. With his .376/.320 shootog %'s and .480 TS% and his 7.7 PER. We need guys who can shoot. We did actually have "Tank for McLemore" threads here once. :lol:
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Post#194 » by TheSuzerain » Sun Jul 6, 2014 3:43 pm

McLemore can shoot.

But he's not what we need for next year.
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Post#195 » by johnnyvann840 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 3:45 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:McLemore can shoot.

But he's not what we need for next year.


Not in the NBA yet. He sure as hell couldn't shoot last season and got plenty of burn to try. He was tuuurrrible
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Post#196 » by johnnyvann840 » Sun Jul 6, 2014 3:53 pm

and just no to fat Dion Waiters. He sucks.
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Post#197 » by iamdvsj » Sun Jul 6, 2014 4:00 pm

ATRAIN53 wrote:Stuckey. They should be all in for this kid.

He can score, he's bigger than Derrick and that could cause match-up issues at times.
Get that kid out of Detroit and he'll blossom here.


Should be one of our prime targets.
He's Stephenson without the drama.


unfortunately Stuckey is just what we don't need. Another SG that struggles with the 3.
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Post#198 » by iamdvsj » Sun Jul 6, 2014 4:12 pm

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I'd run a 2 point guard lineup for a good chunk of time. Sure Rose would be guarding twos, but there are only a handful of twos that can take advantage of that. I think you'll actually see more 2 point lineups in the future, I'd like the bulls to stay ahead of the curve.

Thomas, Rose
Rose, Butler
McDermott, butler
Gibson, Mirotic
Noah, Gibson

It would be tricky at first, but that team has a ton of talent and playmaking ability, something we've lacked for a while.


You would run a swing rotation of Thomas, Rose at the 2, and McDermott. You're serious about that? That's simply impossible to hide on defense. And Mirotic certainly couldn't play with that group, of course. It's just a bad idea. Your star is a PG, you don't spend big money on the eensiest PG in the league.


I'm super serious. If 2 all nba defenders in your starting lineup aren't enough (I'm counting taj as one) start butler at the small forward spot and make it three, I don't care.

The guy is literally exactly what we need. Playmaking, ball handling, and shoots 5 threes a game at 35%. Chicago fell in love with both Nate and DJ, and is kid is 10 times the player. Imagine what thibs could get out of him. I'd throw 8-10 million and not even blink. Doesn't seem to matter, we would rather go after over the hill players than a 25 year old due to a couple inches.

And when the inevitable happens, Thomas-butler-douggie-Gibson-Noah is a very good team.


I thought I read somewhere that Lance turned down a 10 mil/year extension with Indiana...and with the ridiculous contracts this free agency period I'm thinking he may get more.
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Post#200 » by ManualRam » Sun Jul 6, 2014 5:27 pm

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ATRAIN53 wrote:Stuckey. They should be all in for this kid.

He can score, he's bigger than Derrick and that could cause match-up issues at times.
Get that kid out of Detroit and he'll blossom here.


Should be one of our prime targets.
He's Stephenson without the drama.


unfortunately Stuckey is just what we don't need. Another SG that struggles with the 3.

3 pt shooting wasn't the only need that the bulls had. they also need another slasher, someone who can collapse the D to get it out to shooters. outside of lance, stuckey's the next best slasher/ball-handler.
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