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MeloDrama Part V

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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1341 » by Boarder Patrol » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:12 am

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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1342 » by knickabocker88 » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:19 am

Remember when Hahn broke LBJ to Miami story on Twitter, I bet he'll drop the this Melo scoop.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1343 » by K_ick_God » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:19 am

Sounds like he's coming back, so the Lakers are back to having no players or coaches or talent, nor a clear GM, and the Bulls are left with some confused lawyers, stray dogs and a knee surgery to be named later.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1344 » by KNIXFAN_83 » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:21 am

Marc Spears on NBAtv says he can't see Melo walking away from the money in NY.


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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1345 » by ibraheim718 » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:21 am

KnicksGod wrote:Sounds like he's coming back, so the Lakers are back to having no players or coaches or talent, nor a clear GM, and the Bulls are left with some confused lawyers, lost dogs and a knee surgery to be named later.


And yet both of those franchises have celebrated 16 championships combined since we've celebrated our last.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1346 » by adjacent2bench » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:22 am

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BodyCount wrote:if anyone is bored waiting for the decision, you can waste some time practicing pronouncing a name of our new rookie Antetokounmpo :D

http://www.nba.com/knicks/video/2014/06 ... 4-3312842/



I'll learn after he signs a contract. lol



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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1347 » by Red Vines » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:23 am

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Why do people say the super max.

It's just the max.

HIS max.


Because HIS max is more than the regular max because of his All-Star selections, etc.


Not it isn't.


Why is Melo's max more than Lebron's then? I don't know the details but it is commonly called the "super-max"
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Post#1348 » by suicidedeuce » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:24 am

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Because HIS max is more than the regular max because of his All-Star selections, etc.


Not it isn't.


Why is Melo's max more than Lebron's then?


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Because HIS max is more than the regular max because of his All-Star selections, etc.


Not it isn't.


Then why can he make more than Lebron can make? Time in league + add. "superstar" qualifications = supermax.


Melo and James were in the same draft. And do you really think Melo has made more all-start teams that Lebron James??

Seriously?

James and Melo's max salary as players with 10+ years of experience is 35% of a specially calculated cap figure OR 105% of their last year's salary, whichever is greater.

Because James took a discount to play in Miami 4 years ago, his 2013-2014 salary was $19.1m. 105% of that is $20.1m

Melo did not take a discount in 2011 but instead signed a max extension so his 2013-2014 salary was $21.4m 105% of that is $22.5m.

That's the ONLY his max is higher than James'. But he doesn't qualify for some special category of salary.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1349 » by Red Vines » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:26 am

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Melo did not take a discount in 2011 but instead signed a max extension so his 2013-2014 salary was $21.4m 105% of that is $22.5m.

That's the ONLY his max is higher than James'. But he doesn't qualify for some special category of salary.


Lebron would qualify too then for the super-max (it is commonly called that) if he didn't take the discount. It's the very most you can make in the league which is why it has been termed that.
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Post#1350 » by suicidedeuce » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:30 am

Red Vines wrote:
suicidedeuce wrote:
Melo did not take a discount in 2011 but instead signed a max extension so his 2013-2014 salary was $21.4m 105% of that is $22.5m.

That's the ONLY his max is higher than James'. But he doesn't qualify for some special category of salary.


Lebron would qualify too then for the super-max (it is commonly called that) if he didn't take the discount. It's the very most you can make in the league which is why it has been termed that.


I know it's commonly called that, and it's commonly redundant.

I think people also commonly misunderstand how max's are calculated. There is no "Kobemax" or "supermax."

There is just the max. Not qualifier is needed.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1351 » by Greenie » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:31 am

Red Vines wrote:
suicidedeuce wrote:
Melo did not take a discount in 2011 but instead signed a max extension so his 2013-2014 salary was $21.4m 105% of that is $22.5m.

That's the ONLY his max is higher than James'. But he doesn't qualify for some special category of salary.


Lebron would qualify too then for the super-max (it is commonly called that) if he didn't take the discount. It's the very most you can make in the league which is why it has been termed that.

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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1352 » by Red Vines » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:33 am

suicidedeuce wrote:
There is just the max. Not qualifier is needed.


There's obviously a different max for different players depending on years in the league, etc. The top category people call the super-max. Like here: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/whe ... o-the-max/
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1353 » by Capn'O » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:33 am

I'll say it - these guys with their offseason sagas are kind of clowns.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1354 » by moocow007 » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:34 am

Hint: before panicking on something youre not clear on, get clear on it first.
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Post#1355 » by suicidedeuce » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:41 am

Red Vines wrote:
suicidedeuce wrote:
There is just the max. Not qualifier is needed.


There's obviously a different max for different players depending on years in the league, etc. The top category people call the super-max. Like here: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/whe ... o-the-max/


Of course there is.

I just explained that to you.

0-6 years in the league it's 25% of the specially calculated cap figure.

7-9 it's 30%

10+ it's 35%.

OR 105% of your last salary.

But Melo's salary is NOT the highest you can qualify for in the NBA.

If Stoudemire had opted out of his contract, he would have qualified for a higher salary than Melo.

Kobe Bryant made $30m this past season.

So calling Melo's max the Kobe or supermax suggesting it's the highest salary you can get inthe NBA is not only superfluous, it's misleading.
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Post#1356 » by Capn'O » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:42 am

suicidedeuce wrote:
Red Vines wrote:
suicidedeuce wrote:
Melo did not take a discount in 2011 but instead signed a max extension so his 2013-2014 salary was $21.4m 105% of that is $22.5m.

That's the ONLY his max is higher than James'. But he doesn't qualify for some special category of salary.


Lebron would qualify too then for the super-max (it is commonly called that) if he didn't take the discount. It's the very most you can make in the league which is why it has been termed that.


I know it's commonly called that, and it's commonly redundant.

I think people also commonly misunderstand how max's are calculated. There is no "Kobemax" or "supermax."

There is just the max. Not qualifier is needed.


So far Kobe (Garnett?) is the only player that has gotten that 3rd max after the rookie scale. It's an extremely rare thing to enter that 25-30 million range.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1357 » by Red Vines » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:44 am

suicidedeuce wrote:
Red Vines wrote:
suicidedeuce wrote:
There is just the max. Not qualifier is needed.


There's obviously a different max for different players depending on years in the league, etc. The top category people call the super-max. Like here: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/whe ... o-the-max/


Of course there is.

I just explained that to you.

0-6 years in the league it's 25% of the specially calculated cap figure.

7-9 it's 30%

10+ it's 35%.

OR 105% of your last salary.

But Melo's salary is NOT the highest you can qualify for in the NBA.

If Stoudemire had opted out of his contract, he would have qualified for a higher salary than Melo.

Kobe Bryant made $30m this past season.

So calling Melo's max the Kobe or supermax suggesting it's the highest salary you can get inthe NBA is not only superfluous, it's misleading.


I don't know about STAT but Kobe's huge contract was before the new CBA. I don't think it's misleading, it's the top category.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1358 » by HighRyzer83 » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:44 am

KnicksGod wrote:Sounds like he's coming back, so the Lakers are back to having no players or coaches or talent, nor a clear GM, and the Bulls are left with some confused lawyers, stray dogs and a knee surgery to be named later.

The Lakers would be a good team to S&T with though. Gasol, Randle, and 1st pick which will no doubt be a lottery. Possibly another future pick as well, if they want him that badly
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1359 » by BallSacBounce » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:44 am

suicidedeuce wrote:
Red Vines wrote:
suicidedeuce wrote:
Melo did not take a discount in 2011 but instead signed a max extension so his 2013-2014 salary was $21.4m 105% of that is $22.5m.

That's the ONLY his max is higher than James'. But he doesn't qualify for some special category of salary.


Lebron would qualify too then for the super-max (it is commonly called that) if he didn't take the discount. It's the very most you can make in the league which is why it has been termed that.


I know it's commonly called that, and it's commonly redundant.

I think people also commonly misunderstand how max's are calculated. There is no "Kobemax" or "supermax."

There is just the max. Not qualifier is needed.


The Cap'nO max begs to differ tho.
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Re: MeloDrama Part V 

Post#1360 » by K_ick_God » Mon Jul 7, 2014 1:45 am

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KnicksGod wrote:Sounds like he's coming back, so the Lakers are back to having no players or coaches or talent, nor a clear GM, and the Bulls are left with some confused lawyers, lost dogs and a knee surgery to be named later.


And yet both of those franchises have celebrated 16 championships combined since we've celebrated our last.


Yeaaaah but we got next.

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