2014 Miami Heat Offseason Thread (Rumors/Reports) 5.0

[mopper8]

I wanted more signings.

MOAR SIGNINGS

I think we're probably still chasing a 2-guard with lots of range, like Rush or Morrow, probably with the TPE.

And then I wouldn't be surprised if that just about wrapped it up for the new additions; the rest will be bringing back the right players from last year's team

[PaulieWal]

This is an outsider's non-troll opinion.

The McRoberts signing is great. He's an above average player on the typical team with a skill-set that fits what you guys do. He brings some relative youth towards your roster as well. You may have slightly overpaid but overpaying during title contention periods isn't a major problem provided you leave some flexibility.

I also think many Heat fans are getting to hung up on the 2014 Finals.

First, a 5 game series is an awfully small sample size. The 2014 Spurs were better than the 2014 Heat but the margin wasn't anywhere close to 14 ppg. You play that series a 100 times and that is probably the 2nd or 3rd best performance SAS would get.

Second, there is no guarantee SAS is going to be back in the finals next year. The West is an absolute bloodbath so it would be a huge mistake to build your roster for one opponent especially when many critical players on that team are the age were they could collapse at any moment.

Obviously the biggest factor in your off-season is bringing back Lebron but this is a nice signing.

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As an aside, I'm shocked there are fans who want to replace Bosh with Melo. I'm not one of those Knick fans who hate Melo but Bosh's skill-set is far more valuable next to Lebron.

Great to see you here, sp6r. I hope you drop by a little more often amongst all the panic here.

[HeatNation88]

I wanted more signings.

MOAR SIGNINGS

Michael Beasley about to ink a 3 year Miami deal


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[NBA82]

It's hard for me to believe that people think the major issues we had exposed in the Finals will be solved by drafting a 6'0, 165 pound PG and adding a broken-down shooting specialist at SF and Josh McRoberts.

I'm not saying they're totally worthless additions, but at best, this was a pretty mild alteration of the roster. We're essentially the same team with a bit more scoring potential at PG and a bit more size at PF.

The same team that went to four straight finals...A slight improvement is better than none.

Correct, but a significant improvement is better than a slight improvement and was a reasonable hope going into the offseason. There were many targets that could've significantly improved the team, and there were reasonable cap machinations that would have allowed us to sign at least one of them.

Again, this was a pretty mild alteration of the roster. Coming off an historic shellacking in the Finals with the most cap space in NBA history, I think some degree of disappointment is reasonable. Again, disappointment with the additions -- not disappointment with the status of the team in general.

[xMADEinDADEx]

I really hope we play the young talent that we have. If Ennis/Hamilton becomes bench buddies with Beas, I might cry.

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[mopper8]

This is an outsider's non-troll opinion.

The McRoberts signing is great. He's an above average player on the typical team with a skill-set that fits what you guys do. He brings some relative youth towards your roster as well. You may have slightly overpaid but overpaying during title contention periods isn't a major problem provided you leave some flexibility.

I also think many Heat fans are getting to hung up on the 2014 Finals.

First, a 5 game series is an awfully small sample size. The 2014 Spurs were better than the 2014 Heat but the margin wasn't anywhere close to 14 ppg. You play that series a 100 times and that is probably the 2nd or 3rd best performance SAS would get.

Second, there is no guarantee SAS is going to be back in the finals next year. The West is an absolute bloodbath so it would be a huge mistake to build your roster for one opponent especially when many critical players on that team are the age were they could collapse at any moment.

Obviously the biggest factor in your off-season is bringing back Lebron but this is a nice signing.

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As an aside, I'm shocked there are fans who want to replace Bosh with Melo. I'm not one of those Knick fans who hate Melo but Bosh's skill-set is far more valuable next to Lebron.

LOL What the?? That's just **** nonsense. Pure speculation. Just no parameters to support this "assumption".
I could easily say, out of 100 games between Miami and San Antonio, Spurs win ~50 by double digits. Pure speculation as well, but who would bet against that?

No, he's basing it on the fact that each of those teams played 100 games against 28 other teams that gives you a pretty good baseline of their respective quality, and suggests the difference between them is not nearly as large as focusing on simply the last 5 games of the season would suggest.

[Heat_Fan_87]

I like the signings.

Just waiting for big 3 to resign.


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[MiaFLSurf]

Mike Wilbon just called our fans decrepit.

Wow. Eff this guy.

[Vertical Limit]

Beasley is a long shot from being in an NBA roster next season.

[RexBoyWonder]

People are ignoring a huge factor in our offseason - The draft.

Napier, Ennis, Hamilton are all rookies basically. It's like adding 2 promsing first rounders (Ennis + Napier, based of everything we saw from them till now) + an interesting second rounder (Hamilton, showed enough to get a chance).

Add those 3 young pieces to MCbob + Possibly healthy granger, to a team that was the second best in the NBA.

I like our chances.

[KingDavid]

It's hard for me to believe that people think the major issues we had exposed in the Finals will be solved by drafting a 6'0, 165 pound PG and adding a broken-down shooting specialist at SF and Josh McRoberts.

I'm not saying they're totally worthless additions, but at best, this was a pretty mild alteration of the roster. We're essentially the same team with a bit more scoring potential at PG and a bit more size at PF.

The same team that went to four straight finals...A slight improvement is better than none.

Correct, but a significant improvement is better than a slight improvement and was a reasonable hope going into the offseason. There were many targets that could've significantly improved the team, and there were reasonable cap machinations that would have allowed us to sign at least one of them.

Again, this was a pretty mild alteration of the roster. Coming off an historic shellacking in the Finals with the most cap space in NBA history, I think some degree of disappointment is reasonable. Again, disappointment with the additions -- not disappointment with the status of the team in general.

We didn't have that much capspace because we still have rights to the big 3. Signing someone that grants us significant improvement is very favorable, but way too expensive.

[NBA82]

It's hard for me to believe that people think the major issues we had exposed in the Finals will be solved by drafting a 6'0, 165 pound PG and adding a broken-down shooting specialist at SF and Josh McRoberts.

I'm not saying they're totally worthless additions, but at best, this was a pretty mild alteration of the roster. We're essentially the same team with a bit more scoring potential at PG and a bit more size at PF.

When u can magically create cap space please give pat Riley a call. Wade and Bosh both deserve 12/13 a year. But they're going to get more from the heat out of loyalty. It's going to kill us in the long run

Again, I haven't said Riley failed us. Read what you quoted. I don't think anyone would deny that we had some major issues exposed in the Finals. I contend that Napier, McRoberts, and Danny Granger do not greatly alleviate those problems. I did not address whether or not it was possible for Riley to fill those holes, given our cap situation and players' contract demands. I think it's too early to make that judgment, considering we have no idea what LeBron/Bosh/Wade will end up signing for and no idea how much other appealing alternatives that haven't been signed yet will get.

[daniel3]

I think we'd sign Oden over Hamilton...

That would be incredibly stupid. Hamilton has shown far too much in comparison to Oden showing little other than his propensity to get injured.

Hamilton has played 72 total minutes in his NBA career, it's a stretch to suggest he's shown anything.

He's shown he won't brake down at any moment, that's something he has shown. He's also progressed a lot since he first came into the league and can provide serviceable minutes rather than ride injury list for a year on off chance he gets healthy.

[NBA82]

The same team that went to four straight finals...A slight improvement is better than none.

Correct, but a significant improvement is better than a slight improvement and was a reasonable hope going into the offseason. There were many targets that could've significantly improved the team, and there were reasonable cap machinations that would have allowed us to sign at least one of them.

Again, this was a pretty mild alteration of the roster. Coming off an historic shellacking in the Finals with the most cap space in NBA history, I think some degree of disappointment is reasonable. Again, disappointment with the additions -- not disappointment with the status of the team in general.

We didn't have that much capspace because we still have rights to the big 3. Signing someone that grants us significant improvement is very favorable, but way too expensive.

That may be true. It's too soon to know, given that we don't know what the Big 3's contract demands are just yet. But it doesn't really impact my comments one way or the other.

Whether we didn't significantly improve because it was impossible or because we simply failed to do so, my only point was that McRoberts, Napier, and Granger do not yield a significant improvement or cure the issues that we saw doom us in the Finals. Maybe they were the best we could do.

[mopper8]

That would be incredibly stupid. Hamilton has shown far too much in comparison to Oden showing little other than his propensity to get injured.

Hamilton has played 72 total minutes in his NBA career, it's a stretch to suggest he's shown anything.

He's shown he won't brake down at any moment, that's something he has shown. He's also progressed a lot since he first came into the league and can provide serviceable minutes rather than ride injury list for a year on off chance he gets healthy.

Well, the healthy guy who doesn't look like a rotation player is not necessarily the better play than the guy with questionable health who looks like a starter.

[DefenseWins]

Those signings really made me hungry for more info

Grrrrrrrr

[KingDavid]

That would be incredibly stupid. Hamilton has shown far too much in comparison to Oden showing little other than his propensity to get injured.

Hamilton has played 72 total minutes in his NBA career, it's a stretch to suggest he's shown anything.

He's shown he won't brake down at any moment, that's something he has shown. He's also progressed a lot since he first came into the league and can provide serviceable minutes rather than ride injury list for a year on off chance he gets healthy.

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[Grumpy Heat Fan]

Kyrie is starting to recruit LeBron now, that means all the reports of LeBron secretly telling the Cavs he's coming back were just BS

[DefenseWins]

Hamilton really played well against plumee who isn't an easy guy to guard


Still grabbed like 9rebs

But it is summer league soooo yeah

[Pure_Basketball]

Two terrible signings, and I'm not being completely negative. Granger has been washed up for a while, he was washed up two years ago and once you're washed up you don't get better unless you play for Phoenix. As for McRoberts, I don't see how he fits our needs, he isn't good at rebounding or defense, and he's barely a good shooter. 6 rebounds per36 for a guy who's going to be probably starting at power forward? I mean that's worse than Chris Bosh the last two years.

I'm under the assumption that the big 3 were willing to take a pay cut so that we had around 5-6 million in cap space, so I'm hoping that means we still have the 5-6 million for another player like Jordan Hill or Paul Gasol and then once we've evaporated all our cap we can use the exceptions.

Jameer Nelson / Nappier / Cole
Wade / Allen / Morrow
Lebron / Granger / Ennis
Bosh / McRoberts / Haslem
Jordan Hill or Gasol / Birdman / Oden

Would have looked so much better than what I'm thinking our lineup is going to be looking like now. For **** sake you could have signed Spencer Hawes with that money, the perfect fit to our lineup. Spaces the floor better, better size, much better rebounder, fills the need at center, is still young, same money, same passer.