The One And Only Offseason Thread!

[Split T]

He's supposed to be a key part of a championship team.

Bingo!!! Too bad the Suns are NOT a championship team, so we should have had no business bringing PJ Tucker back. This Suns organization is so desperate to be mediocre it's not even funny anymore. They are going to go all out trying to get in the playoffs, ignore their young prospects, and end up somewhere in the 9th through 11th seed.

You don't become a championship team without championship players. There is a reason the magic spent 30 plus on frye and it's not to help them win a championship this year. At some point you gotta stop stockpiling youth. You may think the 76ers model is the way to go but unless embiid turns out to be Hakeem that team is gonna break up before they learn how to win. Thunder are the only team I've seen become title contenders just stockpiling youth and letting them grow. And they had the greatest 4 year draft stretch of all time probably. (Durant-Westbrook-harden-Ibaka)

[King4Day]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/487387951329214464[/tweet]

"No impact on Bledsoe's situation"

Looks like Isaiah Thomas is going to be our top FA signing. What the hell...

That's IF Sacramento doesn't match too.

[BobbieL]

Logged in just to see Sunsdeuce's reaction. Was well worth it!

Glad i didn't disappoint. Lol. I think the last player that I disliked as much as tucker was jerrod mustaf.


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So
Chandler Parsons at 15m per year

Ariza probably at 10M per year

Deng at 12m per year

Or

Marion - if he bites, one year $10m

Who should the Suns next SF be? And I think eventually PG needs to be on the bench

[PassWarden]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/status/487387951329214464[/tweet]

"No impact on Bledsoe's situation"

Looks like Isaiah Thomas is going to be our top FA signing. What the hell...

That's IF Sacramento doesn't match too.

It's not likely they match after that Collison deal.

[lilfishi22]

That is a huge sign, that's the suns have no intention of improving this year. That would be the only reason they would overpay him in the first year.

Well late lottery pick here we come again. This is getting old.

Mate look at who is still available (legit impact players) and how much cap space we have. There is no one player that is going to come in and turn this team into a contender. Next season with how PJ's contract is set up, we would have more money to give to Dragic and other FA's (Love?).

Stop crying about this signing and look at the bigger picture.

[suns91fan]

Don't forget that Tucker is considered a valuable piece in this league. If nothing else we resigned him to keep the value, and maybe use him as a trade asset sometime in the future. He is on a solid contract, and when the time comes for a big trade, he could as well be part of it.

[Kerrsed]

Here's my question for those not happy with the signing.
Who do you want this offseason with who's left?

Deng (he'll get 10-12 mil per)
Ariza (Looking to get 8-10 mil per)
Someone else

I read someone say Tucker is a guy you have on a championship team and we are NOT a championship team. That's fair enough. So who do you replace him with to make us a championship team?

Hayward and Parsons were never an option.

Would you prefer to let the cap space sit and roll with our rookies and who we have? Tucker can mentor Warren over the next two years.

[Nando88]

Eh I don't see sac matching . With the money they paid colleson and the play making ability of stauskas I can see them letting Thomas walk


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[rsavaj]

[bwgood77]

I think McD has his eye on the future just as much as he does on the present. It's just not smart as tough as the west is to blow a bunch of money on old vets that are not going to make you a championship contender.

I'm not talking about PJ. I like the Tucker signing because he is a valuable contributor, leader, glue guy, defender, etc. I'm talking about blowing big money on Pau, Deng, etc.

As for Thomas, who knows what he wants to do with him? If it's be a sixth man Jason Terry type, he could probably be a pretty good 6th man of the year candidate.

If he wants to trade Bledsoe or Dragic in a bigger deal for Love later in the year and wants some pg insurance, he has it with Thomas.

If he values a guy like Stauskas and thinks him at $2 million is a better investment than Bledsoe at $15 million, then he throws in Thomas and someone else to make the deal work and feels we have a really bright future with Ennis/Goodwin/Stauskas/Warren/Len, perhaps that could be a reason...he wants this young team to hit their stride when half of the WC contenders are fading due to age.

There are many possibilities he could be making this move

[charley barkles]

If we get Thomas, I imagine one of Green/Ennis/Ish are getting traded, maybe all 3.

Ish will probably be cut. Ennis, Green, or Bledsoe will probably be traded.

[Sunsdeuce]

That is a huge sign, that's the suns have no intention of improving this year. That would be the only reason they would overpay him in the first year.

Well late lottery pick here we come again. This is getting old.

Mate look at who is still available (legit impact players) and how much cap space we have. There is no one player that is going to come in and turn this team into a contender. Next season with how PJ's contract is set up, we would have more money to give to Dragic and other FA's (Love?).

Stop crying about this signing and look at the bigger picture.

I hear ya. But you also have to see my prospective. I have been going to games since the 80s, I'm not getting any younger. I've heard that nonsense for a long time about developing a young team. Developing a young team ONLY works if you have a superstar in place. If you have a shaq, Jordan, Duncan, Durant. Than yes, by all means develop. But if you don't have a superstar in place, basically all you are developing is trade assets.


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[Sunsdeuce]

The only thing that makes me feel Better is that his (tucker) third year is not guaranteed.


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[Sunsdeuce]

The only thing that makes me feel Better is that his (tucker) third year is not guaranteed.


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[Scutt]

Everyone is free to their opinion but I haven't read one good reason why this was a bad move.

It is a bad move because it shows the Suns front office is more concerned with simply making the playoffs than they are about building for a contending team in the future. If Tucker were not resigned, Green could have slid to the starting small forward spot, opening up minutes for Archie at SG and Marcus at SF. We are a rebuilding team, why do we need PJ Tucker's old ass starting? Oh wait, the Suns just want to win as many games as possible with their gimmick run and gun system. Screw developing young talent! Why do that when you can be mediocre and let PJ Tucker be your starter again.

[charley barkles]

I hear ya. But you also have to see my prospective. I have been going to games since the 80s, I'm not getting any younger. I've heard that nonsense for a long time about developing a young team. Developing a young team ONLY works if you have a superstar in place. If you have a shaq, Jordan, Duncan, Durant. Than yes, by all means develop. But if you don't have a superstar in place, basically all you are developing is trade assets.

I thought it was the other way around... when you have a superstar in place, don't you go after the vets?

[SSOL]

You guys are arguing over the battle instead of the war. One move does not make an offseason, nor an entire rebuilding process. Relax.

[Sunsdeuce]

I hear ya. But you also have to see my prospective. I have been going to games since the 80s, I'm not getting any younger. I've heard that nonsense for a long time about developing a young team. Developing a young team ONLY works if you have a superstar in place. If you have a shaq, Jordan, Duncan, Durant. Than yes, by all means develop. But if you don't have a superstar in place, basically all you are developing is trade assets.

I thought it was the other way around... when you have a superstar in place, don't you go after the vets?

what I was saying spurs and okc can afford to develop because they drafted a superstar.


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[Jarlaxle0204]

Not a bad signing at all. Could have been much worse.

It's hard to hate hard nosed players that do the dirty work out there. Hopefully it rubs off on Warren as I really do think this kid is going to be a big part of our future and our starting 3 for many years down the road.

Interested in seeing some extra acquisitions (and assets) added to our solid core. Thomas as a backup PG would be pretty deadly. Huge upgrade over Ish. I imagine it would give us options for trades obviously as well.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

That is a huge sign, that's the suns have no intention of improving this year. That would be the only reason they would overpay him in the first year.

Well late lottery pick here we come again. This is getting old.

Mate look at who is still available (legit impact players) and how much cap space we have. There is no one player that is going to come in and turn this team into a contender. Next season with how PJ's contract is set up, we would have more money to give to Dragic and other FA's (Love?).

Stop crying about this signing and look at the bigger picture.

I hear ya. But you also have to see my prospective. I have been going to games since the 80s, I'm not getting any younger. I've heard that nonsense for a long time about developing a young team. Developing a young team ONLY works if you have a superstar in place. If you have a shaq, Jordan, Duncan, Durant. Than yes, by all means develop. But if you don't have a superstar in place, basically all you are developing is trade assets.

I think Archie could be the league's best SG in a few years. I think Warren has a chance to be a top 5 SF. That's not based on a whole lot of information, but neither is the belief that they are not star material.