Official Trade Thread - Part XXVIII

Benjammin · Post #41 » by **Benjammin** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:27 pm

^It sounds like the Heat are after Deng. I agree there's a good chance that Ariza goes to Houston.

Deivy202 · Post #42 » by **Deivy202** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:37 pm

Saw that too. Either way its fine im not expecting us to make big moves I rather have porter and do what spme have said and trade nene and try and get monroe.eother way I expect just a cheap season and fpr us to be ok next year.

But rather have deng than ariza.

payitforward · Post #43 » by **payitforward** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:55 pm

Deivy202 wrote:Saw that too. Either way its fine im not expecting us to make big moves I rather have porter and do what spme have said and trade nene and try and get monroe.eother way I expect just a cheap season and fpr us to be ok next year.

But rather have deng than ariza.

It would make no sense whatever for us to sign Deng. If Ariza goes, so be it -- next season is down the drain, so just find someone with some potential development -- not a guy at the end of his career; how many bandaids can we put on top of other bandaids?? -- and just live with a significant step backwards.

gambitx777 · Post #44 » by **gambitx777** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:14 pm

If Ariza leaves, Watch his production drop! We will be fine!

deneem4 · Post #45 » by **deneem4** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 10:12 pm

Hopefully we can trade nene for anything tht can shoot or be healthy and play defense

mhd · Post #46 » by **mhd** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 10:56 pm

deneem4 wrote:Hopefully we can trade nene for anything tht can shoot or be healthy and play defense

At this point, I think we are stuck with Nene. We aren't getting a better big, whose contract doesn't expire in 2 years.

deneem4 · Post #47 » by **deneem4** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:23 pm

mhd wrote:
deneem4 wrote:Hopefully we can trade nene for anything tht can shoot or be healthy and play defense

At this point, I think we are stuck with Nene. We aren't getting a better big, whose contract doesn't expire in 2 years.

Josh smith for nene and a 1st or webster

wall
beal/rice
porter
smith
gortat

mhd · Post #48 » by **mhd** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:27 pm

deneem4 wrote:
mhd wrote:
deneem4 wrote:Hopefully we can trade nene for anything tht can shoot or be healthy and play defense

At this point, I think we are stuck with Nene. We aren't getting a better big, whose contract doesn't expire in 2 years.

Josh smith for nene and a 1st or webster

wall
beal/rice
porter
smith
gortat

Trading for Josh Smith means NO DURANT. I'd pass and simply keep Nene until he expires.

deneem4 · Post #49 » by **deneem4** » Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:29 pm

mhd wrote:
deneem4 wrote:
mhd wrote:

At this point, I think we are stuck with Nene. We aren't getting a better big, whose contract doesn't expire in 2 years.

Josh smith for nene and a 1st or webster

wall
beal/rice
porter
smith
gortat

Trading for Josh Smith means NO DURANT. I'd pass and simply keep Nene until he expires.

No such thing...wall makes every streaky shooter looks good...gortat or smith can get unloaded easily

gambitx777 · Post #50 » by **gambitx777** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:25 am

A first for smith,! No way ! Now if we are trading NENE for Monroe, then maybe I include an unprotected first. But, I am not interested in smith!

dangermouse · Post #51 » by **dangermouse** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:42 am

Rockets pursuing Athreeza.

Anything they have that could be worth a sign and trade? Im happy losing Ariza because I think we'll be fine with Porter, im ready to be proved right/wrong, he just needs a shot and he wont get it with Ariza and Webster on the team. Trading Ariza for depth seems like a good move.

Deivy202 · Post #52 » by **Deivy202** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:50 am

Im glad ariza is gone too...now porter can shine ...I thi k wiz next mpve is to try and get nene outof here sincei think webster can be a back up SF and rice jr can be Beal back up .

jivelikenice · Post #53 » by **jivelikenice** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:30 am

Does it help Houston at all to structure this as a sign and trade? A TPE, Donatas, anything that we can use to fill the 3rd big need!

verbal8 · Post #54 » by **verbal8** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:52 am

gambitx777 wrote:If Ariza leaves, Watch his production drop! We will be fine!

Didn't that happen last time he signed with Houston?

I actually like it for Houston. I think an Ariza/Parsons/Howard front-court causes a lot of match-up issues and is pretty strong defensively. Given the market, they got a good deal from Ariza - which makes having to overpay Parsons a little easier.

verbal8 · Post #55 » by **verbal8** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:55 am

jivelikenice wrote:Does it help Houston at all to structure this as a sign and trade? A TPE, Donatas, anything that we can use to fill the 3rd big need!

If I were an NBA GM, I would want to be on EG's good side

It doesn't seem like there was a nasty bidding war or anything, simply Ariza chose Houston for a reasonable contract that was available for either team.

Getting a TPE could be handy even if the WIzards aren't really in a position to ask for much more.

deneem4 · Post #56 » by **deneem4** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:27 pm

gambitx777 wrote:A first for smith,! No way ! Now if we are trading NENE for Monroe, then maybe I include an unprotected first. But, I am not interested in smith!

He's exactly what we need at the 4, he's healthy as well...hes playing out of position on the pistons...next to gortat and pierce he'll be back to his GOOD atlanta days. N he was good on the hawks

nuposse04 · Post #57 » by **nuposse04** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:30 pm

deneem4 wrote:
gambitx777 wrote:A first for smith,! No way ! Now if we are trading NENE for Monroe, then maybe I include an unprotected first. But, I am not interested in smith!

He's exactly what we need at the 4, he's healthy as well...hes playing out of position on the pistons...next to gortat and pierce he'll be back to his GOOD atlanta days. N he was good on the hawks

I don't think you realize even his "good" ATL days don't warrant his current contract.

deneem4 · Post #58 » by **deneem4** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:09 pm

nuposse04 wrote:
deneem4 wrote:
gambitx777 wrote:A first for smith no way ! Now if we are trading NENE for not to monroe, then maybe I include an unprotected first. But, I am not interested in smith!

He's exactly what we need at the 4, he's healthy as well...hes playing out of position on the pistons...next to gortat and pierce he'll be back to his GOOD atlanta days. N he was good on the hawks

I don't think you realize even his "good" ATL days don't warrant his current contract.

Lol u sure??
The last time he played with Joe johnson 11/12 he averaged
19.2/9.8/4 assists/1.4 steals/1.8 blocks 45% fg and 25% from 3 with 1.7 attemps
the season after
17.8/8.6/4.3 assists/1.3 steals/1.8 blocks 46% fg and 30% from 3 with 2.7 attemps

his 3pt sucked tht year but it was better the year before and after...with wall I see it jumping like Arizas did...not to mention beal having to be watched as well as pierce along the perimeter.

he's still an underrated defender and can defend marquee 4s and 3s.
He's owed the same much as nene as well now u compare...not to mention he has been relatively healthy his whole career

TGW · Post #59 » by **TGW** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:43 pm

Please just stop with the Josh Smith stuff. He's unwanted and not a championship calibre player. The Spurs would never want that guy, even if he was making MLE money.

nuposse04 · Post #60 » by **nuposse04** » Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:49 pm

Josh Smith can be a decent player when he thinks, but the problem is one, he isn't worth that money, two it costs us the opportunity to be a player for Durant...I'd rather have a 20% chance at Durant then 100% chance at Josh Smith.