The One And Only Offseason Thread 3

[JDLAW]

Cown the road:

Minnesota: Irving, The Twins, 2015 Laker's Pick
Cleveland: Love, Green, Bledsoe
Phoenix, Wiggins, TT



P.S. We're dead in the water and Bledsoe will be matched or take the QO. None of this Lakers or Love stuff has a chance anymore.

You know and Irving and Rubio backcourt would be turrible.

Ultimately, there will either be a match or there will be a compromise and Bledsoe will sign a contract. i do not believe he will take the QO. That would be an epic failure on behalf of this agent.

McD and Babby are smart enough to know you can win the battle (they have) but you will see this agent again and they will have to give him an opportunity to save some face. I suspect there will be a compromise on the # of years and some incentive structure built in to allow Bledsoe to earn more than the offer currently on the table. That allows the incompetent Rich Paul to save face. If Bledsoe has to take the QO and be in the same pool as Kevin Seraphin, Rich Paul will be skewered in the industry.

I agree with you on the Lakers and Love stuff - this stuff is not going anywhere.

[BobbieL]

Cown the road:

Minnesota: Irving, The Twins, 2015 Laker's Pick
Cleveland: Love, Green, Bledsoe
Phoenix, Wiggins, TT



P.S. We're dead in the water and Bledsoe will be matched or take the QO. None of this Lakers or Love stuff has a chance anymore.

You know and Irving and Rubio backcourt would be turrible.

Ultimately, there will either be a match or there will be a compromise and Bledsoe will sign a contract. i do not believe he will take the QO. That would be an epic failure on behalf of this agent.

McD and Babby are smart enough to know you can win the battle (they have) but you will see this agent again and they will have to give him an opportunity to save some face. I suspect there will be a compromise on the # of years and some incentive structure built in to allow Bledsoe to earn more than the offer currently on the table. That allows the incompetent Rich Paul to save face. If Bledsoe has to take the QO and be in the same pool as Kevin Seraphin, Rich Paul will be skewered in the industry.

I agree with you on the Lakers and Love stuff - this stuff is not going anywhere.

I think once the market dries up - Bledsoe will realize he has two choices: 1) 3.7QO 2) 4 years somewhere probably being offered 44 to 48m.

I think if Bledsoe and Paul come back to Phoenix - with the 4 years but the number around 52-56m - probably gets a deal done quickly in between the 48 the Suns reportedly are offering and 56. Low 50;s is my guess. Which if constructed properly is great for the Suns

Earlier in the thread - I had Nash, Randle and unprotect that pick for Bledsoe if both parties were amenable

The Jon Bloom tweet - that seem more like his friend and wishful thinking and not fact based from even sources.

[BobbieL]

Cown the road:

Minnesota: Irving, The Twins, 2015 Laker's Pick
Cleveland: Love, Green, Bledsoe
Phoenix, Wiggins, TT



P.S. We're dead in the water and Bledsoe will be matched or take the QO. None of this Lakers or Love stuff has a chance anymore.

You know and Irving and Rubio backcourt would be turrible.

NotTrax - I am not sure what you mean by Lakers stuff has a chance anymore. From what I have read, that's all from this forum, fans rosterbating if there were a S&T - including myself. I have not seen any tweets, Bloom doesn't count - that suggests Suns and lakers trading

Are you saying the Lakers and Suns talked Bledsoe and now its dead?

[bwgood77]

OK, well. Draft over, summer league over, free agency all but over, trades and moves unlikely. I am probably out of here until September unless something earthshattering happens with Bledsoe.

I can't see any more moves of any substance right now. But I reserve the right to come back if something big happens out of the blue.

See ya around when training camp starts. I'm probably not far behind, but I am curious to see if we have something up our sleeve with Bledsoe.

Btw - how long you been posting on various boards? I seem to remember you from waaaaay back, azcentral perhaps? Just curious. Good talking.

Coming in to post exactly what csunsfan said as well. I will get back with you guys in October. It has been real, but know it is time to get ready for school and football.....holla if ya need me

Peace

If we have enough football fans in here, it would be cool to do a fantasy football league.

[matt131]

See ya around when training camp starts. I'm probably not far behind, but I am curious to see if we have something up our sleeve with Bledsoe.

Btw - how long you been posting on various boards? I seem to remember you from waaaaay back, azcentral perhaps? Just curious. Good talking.

Coming in to post exactly what csunsfan said as well. I will get back with you guys in October. It has been real, but know it is time to get ready for school and football.....holla if ya need me

Peace

If we have enough football fans in here, it would be cool to do a fantasy football league.

Oh heck yeah!

[bwgood77]

I think once the market dries up - Bledsoe will realize he has two choices: 1) 3.7QO 2) 4 years somewhere probably being offered 44 to 48m.

I think if Bledsoe and Paul come back to Phoenix - with the 4 years but the number around 52-56m - probably gets a deal done quickly in between the 48 the Suns reportedly are offering and 56. Low 50;s is my guess. Which if constructed properly is great for the Suns

Earlier in the thread - I had Nash, Randle and unprotect that pick for Bledsoe if both parties were amenable

The Jon Bloom tweet - that seem more like his friend and wishful thinking and not fact based from even sources.

I really hope it doesn't get up to 56, or even 52 for that matter. I really don't want to end up with an Eric Gordon situation on our hands. But I guess the majority here would pay him $16 million a year, based on the poll I did earlier. I just don't think he's worth that, or even $!3 million a year. I'd probably settle at $13 million if his camp came down to that, but I would raise my offer to that or they would just assume we will keep raising it until we eventually get there.

[bwgood77]

Coming in to post exactly what csunsfan said as well. I will get back with you guys in October. It has been real, but know it is time to get ready for school and football.....holla if ya need me

Peace

I hope to get the Chargers fans on the forum to be active in that forum too come football season. I've seen quite a few across fanbases, and at least 3-4 Suns fans.

If we have enough football fans in here, it would be cool to do a fantasy football league.

Oh heck yeah!

[BobbieL]

I think once the market dries up - Bledsoe will realize he has two choices: 1) 3.7QO 2) 4 years somewhere probably being offered 44 to 48m.

I think if Bledsoe and Paul come back to Phoenix - with the 4 years but the number around 52-56m - probably gets a deal done quickly in between the 48 the Suns reportedly are offering and 56. Low 50;s is my guess. Which if constructed properly is great for the Suns

Earlier in the thread - I had Nash, Randle and unprotect that pick for Bledsoe if both parties were amenable

The Jon Bloom tweet - that seem more like his friend and wishful thinking and not fact based from even sources.

I really hope it doesn't get up to 56, or even 52 for that matter. I really don't want to end up with an Eric Gordon situation on our hands. But I guess the majority here would pay him $16 million a year, based on the poll I did earlier. I just don't think he's worth that, or even $!3 million a year. I'd probably settle at $13 million if his camp came down to that, but I would raise my offer to that or they would just assume we will keep raising it until we eventually get there.

I agree - would prefer to keep it 12m per year for the four years. But a few extra million - I would be okay with

First things first, Bledsoe needs to come down off the max contract and years. The ball is in his and Pauls court. Or if they don't want to lower - find a team to give him what he wants.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Cown the road:

Minnesota: Irving, The Twins, 2015 Laker's Pick
Cleveland: Love, Green, Bledsoe
Phoenix, Wiggins, TT



P.S. We're dead in the water and Bledsoe will be matched or take the QO. None of this Lakers or Love stuff has a chance anymore.

You know and Irving and Rubio backcourt would be turrible.

Ultimately, there will either be a match or there will be a compromise and Bledsoe will sign a contract. i do not believe he will take the QO. That would be an epic failure on behalf of this agent.

McD and Babby are smart enough to know you can win the battle (they have) but you will see this agent again and they will have to give him an opportunity to save some face. I suspect there will be a compromise on the # of years and some incentive structure built in to allow Bledsoe to earn more than the offer currently on the table. That allows the incompetent Rich Paul to save face. If Bledsoe has to take the QO and be in the same pool as Kevin Seraphin, Rich Paul will be skewered in the industry.

I agree with you on the Lakers and Love stuff - this stuff is not going anywhere.

yup my thoughts exactly on how it will play out. They'll find a compromise and work out a deal.

Your so right on the QO anyone with financial sense would advise Bledsoe he'd be insane to take the QO. No real real upside for him to do it.

People do need to chill on killing him for wanting the max. We all want to get paid the most we can for our professions. I don't fault him for it.

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[PhxSuns1]

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[navysully]

Cown the road:

Minnesota: Irving, The Twins, 2015 Laker's Pick
Cleveland: Love, Green, Bledsoe
Phoenix, Wiggins, TT



P.S. We're dead in the water and Bledsoe will be matched or take the QO. None of this Lakers or Love stuff has a chance anymore.

You know and Irving and Rubio backcourt would be turrible.

Wait a second. Is that rosterbation or is this something being legitimately discussed???

[Kerrsed]

Cown the road:

Minnesota: Irving, The Twins, 2015 Laker's Pick
Cleveland: Love, Green, Bledsoe
Phoenix, Wiggins, TT



P.S. We're dead in the water and Bledsoe will be matched or take the QO. None of this Lakers or Love stuff has a chance anymore.

You know and Irving and Rubio backcourt would be turrible.

Wait a second. Is that rosterbation or is this something being legitimately discussed???

rosterbation.

[navysully]

Cown the road:

Minnesota: Irving, The Twins, 2015 Laker's Pick
Cleveland: Love, Green, Bledsoe
Phoenix, Wiggins, TT



P.S. We're dead in the water and Bledsoe will be matched or take the QO. None of this Lakers or Love stuff has a chance anymore.

You know and Irving and Rubio backcourt would be turrible.

Wait a second. Is that rosterbation or is this something being legitimately discussed???

rosterbation.

Insiders should be banned from rosterbation. Got my Wiggins dreams going for no reason.

[thamadkant]

Suns have 2 additional players on the roster, it's surprising they added Randolph.

There is probably a multi-player (from suns) trade on the cards.

Trade out 3 players for one incoming.
Just a hunch.

[LV-Suns]

Suns have 2 additional players on the roster, it's surprising they added Randolph.

There is probably a multi-player (from suns) trade on the cards.

Trade out 3 players for one incoming.
Just a hunch.

Exactly what I was thinking about when we picked up Randolph's option. Could be brewing something here

[NoKneeBledsoe]

if Wiggins is traded why would we get him?

We are giving Bledsoe (unproven) Potential , Injuries

They are giving Love and Martin (Possibly) Proven All Star and Offensive Player

If anyone gets wiggins it will be the TWOLVES

[DirtyDez]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/JonBloom/status/490225591040241664[/tweet]

To be honest, that isn't a bad deal at all. I hate dealing with the Lakers, but it sounds like we come out on top (especially if Bledsoe's injury history becomes a recurring theme during his career).

Terrible for LA. I think Bloomer would like that one back.

I never bought the Lakers going after him with a max offer cause their backcourt would cripple the payroll. They have Hill, Davis and Randle for the same price of what EB's annual max value would be. They have a 35 win roster in the west which is good for us.

[bwgood77]

Cown the road:

Minnesota: Irving, The Twins, 2015 Laker's Pick
Cleveland: Love, Green, Bledsoe
Phoenix, Wiggins, TT



P.S. We're dead in the water and Bledsoe will be matched or take the QO. None of this Lakers or Love stuff has a chance anymore.

You know and Irving and Rubio backcourt would be turrible.

Wait a second. Is that rosterbation or is this something being legitimately discussed???

I didn't look at that real close at first, but that is a little bit intriguing. If Minnesota was more serious about competing right now, that seems good for them, and if Cleveland thinks Bledsoe is a better fit than Irving (probably not), it would work out well. Tristan Thompson would work better if he had more range on his shot, but he is a really good rebounder. If we thought rebuilding a bit more (taking one step back to take two step forward when some of the teams are declining in the west) it would be intriguing.

However, I don't know that Minnesota would pass on Wiggins, and Rubio and Irving together probably doesn't work well, but the value for everyone in the deal seems pretty fair even though I don't think any team would ultimately pull the trigger.

[bwgood77]

Suns have 2 additional players on the roster, it's surprising they added Randolph.

There is probably a multi-player (from suns) trade on the cards.

Trade out 3 players for one incoming.
Just a hunch.

Exactly what I was thinking about when we picked up Randolph's option. Could be brewing something here

You think we picked up Randolph's option for a trade? I don't see him getting much time for us regardless of who we trade.

Anyone know if we did a S&T with Bledsoe, can we include more players in the deal from our side? If so, I think a deal might make more sense, though I still don't think we will deal him unless someone comes up with something we wouldn't turn down.

If Bledsoe signed a sensible contract, I wouldn't do a trade for Rudy Gay (not a big fan of him), but Tucker and Bledsoe for Gay and Stauskas could probably work.....gives Warren one year to get better, then we just let Gay go, and play Mook at 3 or Warren if he is ready to ball.

Dragic/IT
Green/Stauskas
Gay/Warren or Mook
Kieff/Mook or Tolliver
Plumlee/Len or Kieff

Then next summer we have the cap space from Gay expiring to go after someone and can give Dragic a good contract without hitting the luxury tax.