What teams would take Steve Nash if Lakers included Randle?

AngryPistonsGuy · Post #61 » by **AngryPistonsGuy** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 9:53 am

KobeKenobi wrote:We can just package Nash with rising star Marshall. Marshall is basically Jeremy Lin on steroids. That way we keep Randle. Think about it:

Lebron
Kobe
Gasol
Melo
Randle

I'm loving this description of Marshall. This quote shall be sig'd for eternity.

Warspite · Post #62 » by **Warspite** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 10:02 am

I know the Suns would since they have the Lakers pick next season. Melo, LBJ and Kobe would be a train wreck.
LBJ at C Melo at PF Kobe at SF and 2 Laker girls in the backcourt. 25 wins in the west. Bring back Antoni since none of them play any defense.

EArl · Post #63 » by **EArl** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 10:09 am

AngryPistonsGuy wrote:
KobeKenobi wrote:We can just package Nash with rising star Marshall. Marshall is basically Jeremy Lin on steroids. That way we keep Randle. Think about it:

Lebron
Kobe
Gasol
Melo
Randle

I'm loving this description of Marshall. This quote shall be sig'd for eternity.

Marshall is great. I dont know what youre on.
His floor is magic and his ceiling is GOAT pg.

AngryPistonsGuy · Post #64 » by **AngryPistonsGuy** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 10:24 am

EArl wrote:
AngryPistonsGuy wrote:
KobeKenobi wrote:We can just package Nash with rising star Marshall. Marshall is basically Jeremy Lin on steroids. That way we keep Randle. Think about it:

Lebron
Kobe
Gasol
Melo
Randle

I'm loving this description of Marshall. This quote shall be sig'd for eternity.

Marshall is great. I dont know what youre on.
His floor is magic and his ceiling is GOAT pg.

I heard Kendall Marshall once tore his ACL, but only left the game briefly to manually tear his other ACL so his balance wouldn't be disrupted. He reentered the game with 30 seconds left and still got 8 more assists. GOAT.

Dajadeed · Post #65 » by **Dajadeed** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 10:27 am

lmao @ anyone who thinks they'll trade Julius Randle to get out of a 9 million dollar 1 year contract. They can just wave Nash and add 5.9 million in capspace by doing so.

They won't trade away JR just to get rid of a bad contract. That's silly.

maoriboy · Post #66 » by **maoriboy** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 10:30 am

KobeKenobi wrote:
tmorgan wrote:There's a ton of teams that would do that -- buy Randle for 9.7mil? Easy sell to any non-contender with cap.

We can just package Nash with rising star Marshall. Marshall is basically Jeremy Lin on steroids. That way we keep Randle. Think about it:

Lebron
Kobe
Gasol
Melo
Randle

I actually loled

verbal8 · Post #67 » by **verbal8** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 11:06 am

inquisitive wrote:so let's say the lakers make this trade of nash and randle and lebron doesn't come...what then?

Trade discussions would be contigent on Free Agents agreeing to sign.

I think the realistic deal would be Nash/Randle for cap space(or TPE) and 2015 pick(top 10 protected). Also I think the deal would only be done if they tried to sign 2 stars for near max contracts.

tiderulz · Post #68 » by **tiderulz** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 11:25 am

KobeKenobi wrote:
tmorgan wrote:There's a ton of teams that would do that -- buy Randle for 9.7mil? Easy sell to any non-contender with cap.

We can just package Nash with rising star Marshall. Marshall is basically Jeremy Lin on steroids. That way we keep Randle. Think about it:

Lebron
Kobe
Gasol
Melo
Randle

not sure you can use "rising star" and "Marshall" in the same sentence.

tiderulz · Post #69 » by **tiderulz** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 11:27 am

Dajadeed wrote:lmao @ anyone who thinks they'll trade Julius Randle to get out of a 9 million dollar 1 year contract. They can just wave Nash and add 5.9 million in capspace by doing so.

They won't trade away JR just to get rid of a bad contract. That's silly.

how exactly do they create that space by waiving Nash? they still owe his salary and it goes against the cap

verbal8 · Post #70 » by **verbal8** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 11:33 am

tiderulz wrote:
Dajadeed wrote:lmao @ anyone who thinks they'll trade Julius Randle to get out of a 9 million dollar 1 year contract. They can just wave Nash and add 5.9 million in capspace by doing so.

They won't trade away JR just to get rid of a bad contract. That's silly.

how exactly do they create that space by waiving Nash? they still owe his salary and it goes against the cap

They would also have to use the "stretch provision" where they spread his salary over 3 seasons.

RoyalMajesty · Post #71 » by **RoyalMajesty** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 4:24 pm

AngryPistonsGuy wrote:
KobeKenobi wrote:We can just package Nash with rising star Marshall. Marshall is basically Jeremy Lin on steroids. That way we keep Randle. Think about it:

Lebron
Kobe
Gasol
Melo
Randle

I'm loving this description of Marshall. This quote shall be sig'd for eternity.

HAHAHA! Agreed :lol:

RoyalMajesty · Post #72 » by **RoyalMajesty** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 4:25 pm

KobeKenobi wrote:
tmorgan wrote:There's a ton of teams that would do that -- buy Randle for 9.7mil? Easy sell to any non-contender with cap.

We can just package Nash with rising star Marshall. Marshall is basically Jeremy Lin on steroids. That way we keep Randle. Think about it:

Lebron
Kobe
Gasol
Melo
Randle

dautjazz · Post #73 » by **dautjazz** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 5:00 pm

RoyalMajesty wrote:
KobeKenobi wrote:
tmorgan wrote:There's a ton of teams that would do that -- buy Randle for 9.7mil? Easy sell to any non-contender with cap.

We can just package Nash with rising star Marshall. Marshall is basically Jeremy Lin on steroids. That way we keep Randle. Think about it:

Lebron
Kobe
Gasol
Melo
Randle

How about being able to keep Gasol too. What is Gasol going to be free?

Kobe 23.5
Randle - 2.5
Sacre - .9
= 26.9M

Lets say the salary cap rises to 63M, it leaves 36.1 for Lebron, Anthony, and Gasol!? Yeah, that's going to happen lol.

JellosJigglin · Post #74 » by **JellosJigglin** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 5:35 pm

tiderulz wrote:
Dajadeed wrote:lmao @ anyone who thinks they'll trade Julius Randle to get out of a 9 million dollar 1 year contract. They can just wave Nash and add 5.9 million in capspace by doing so.

They won't trade away JR just to get rid of a bad contract. That's silly.

how exactly do they create that space by waiving Nash? they still owe his salary and it goes against the cap

I think what he meant was a buy-out. Teams can negotiate a buy-out with the players agent and then the contract comes off the books. If they actually got a commitment from Lebron, they'd pay Nash whatever he wanted just to free up that space.

xfactor99 · Post #75 » by **xfactor99** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 5:58 pm

The most hilarious thing about that Marshall and Lin quote is that the two play completely differently.

tiderulz · Post #76 » by **tiderulz** » Mon Jul 7, 2014 6:10 pm

JellosJigglin wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
Dajadeed wrote:lmao @ anyone who thinks they'll trade Julius Randle to get out of a 9 million dollar 1 year contract. They can just wave Nash and add 5.9 million in capspace by doing so.

They won't trade away JR just to get rid of a bad contract. That's silly.

how exactly do they create that space by waiving Nash? they still owe his salary and it goes against the cap

I think what he meant was a buy-out. Teams can negotiate a buy-out with the players agent and then the contract comes off the books. If they actually got a commitment from Lebron, they'd pay Nash whatever he wanted just to free up that space.

anything they pay Nash counts against the salary cap. waiving Nash, his full salary counts. Buy-out, that counts.

snomeister · Post #77 » by **snomeister** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:30 pm

KobeKenobi wrote:
tmorgan wrote:There's a ton of teams that would do that -- buy Randle for 9.7mil? Easy sell to any non-contender with cap.

We can just package Nash with rising star Marshall. Marshall is basically Jeremy Lin on steroids. That way we keep Randle. Think about it:

Lebron
Kobe
Gasol
Melo
Randle

Ok

KobeKenobi · Post #78 » by **KobeKenobi** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:05 pm

KI-DW-TT-AB wrote:I don't see a single team with cap space outside of Cleveland or Miami that wouldn't.

Suns being the first that would.

Only way we trade randle/nash back to phenox is for goron dragic. Dragic is the only guy I see worth trading Randle for....that or Kevin Love as long as both give verbal commitmentd to resign as well...

Dragic / Lin
Kobe / Young
Davis / Hill / Sacre
Boozer / Kelly
Xavier / ?

JellosJigglin · Post #79 » by **JellosJigglin** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:14 pm

KobeKenobi wrote:
KI-DW-TT-AB wrote:I don't see a single team with cap space outside of Cleveland or Miami that wouldn't.

Suns being the first that would.

Only way we trade randle/nash back to phenox is for goron dragic. Dragic is the only guy I see worth trading Randle for....that or Kevin Love as long as both give verbal commitmentd to resign as well...

Dragic / Lin
Kobe / Young
Davis / Hill / Sacre
Boozer / Kelly
Xavier / ?

Are you insane? Randle for Dragic? I'll take my chances with Lin at PG and hold onto Randle. Man, and I was going to defend you for that Marshall post :lol:

Optms · Post #80 » by **Optms** » Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:22 pm

JellosJigglin wrote:Are you insane? Randle for Dragic? I'll take my chances with Lin at PG and hold onto Randle. Man, and I was going to defend you for that Marshall post

Dragic is one of the most underrated point guards in the entire league, not to mention one of the most efficient players overall.

I wouldn't do it but getting a top 6 point guard in his peak years for an inexperienced unproven rookie isn't the end of the world.