Predict the Wizards Record '14-'15 season

[The Fax]

Just like how the Redskins haven't been able to eclipse the 10 win mark for the past few decades, im not going to bet on the Wizards hitting 50 W's. Doesn't mean we won't be really good though. I just don't see us beasting the reg season. Hope I'm wrong!

47-35

Good analysis............ ............. ................... because the two teams are bonded in spirit or ownership or whatever........................

DC sports teams haven't seen major success since the early 90's. That's 20+ years of meh, with a beacon of light every now and then. Last year is one of those years, the previous year with the Skins. If the Wiz can string up 50 winds and a trip to the ECF, then perhaps the curse has been broken. We'll see.

[jeffsays]

56 wins!

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[long suffrin' boulez fan]

48 wins. 2nd in the division. 6th in the conference. Lose in 7 in the first round.

The East got deeper and Cleveland, with Love, will win it (I think I just choked as I wrote that).

[McFilthy]

48-34

Maybe enough for a 3 or 4 seed.

My heart wants to predict above 50 wins, but my head says "No." This Wizards fan has learned to temper his enthusiasm. The team may take a while to hit their stride. Wizards teams tend to start slow.

[WallToWall]

We will see 50 wins for the first time in a long time. Our def strategy will change, given that we no longer have a lock down defender at the SG/SF. I see us playing a slower tempo with a lot more fouling. Surprisingly, Wall will shine as he will pick his moments to force the tempo in transition. Bench is much longer and improved so look to them to actually extend leads in a game when against the opponents 2nd unit. Ah...we will see, we will see....

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[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

Just like how the Redskins haven't been able to eclipse the 10 win mark for the past few decades, im not going to bet on the Wizards hitting 50 W's. Doesn't mean we won't be really good though. I just don't see us beasting the reg season. Hope I'm wrong!

47-35

Good analysis............ ............. ................... because the two teams are bonded in spirit or ownership or whatever........................

DC sports teams haven't seen major success since the early 90's. That's 20+ years of meh, with a beacon of light every now and then. Last year is one of those years, the previous year with the Skins. If the Wiz can string up 50 winds and a trip to the ECF, then perhaps the curse has been broken. We'll see.

Ah cute superstitions aside, your whole post is bull.

[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

48 wins. 2nd in the division. 6th in the conference. Lose in 7 in the first round.

The East got deeper and Cleveland, with Love, will win it (I think I just choked as I wrote that).

The fact that you think the 6th seed in the east has 48 wins is hilarious in itself.

[stevemcqueen1]

48 wins. 2nd in the division. 6th in the conference. Lose in 7 in the first round.

The East got deeper and Cleveland, with Love, will win it (I think I just choked as I wrote that).

The fact that you think the 6th seed in the east has 48 wins is hilarious in itself.

I don't know, I think the East could have five 50 win teams this year, but we would be one of them:

- Washington
- Chicago
- Indy
- Cleveland
- Toronto

Cleveland I'm not sure about. I think they'd have to get Love to break 50. But it seems like they probably will.

I think the drop off to #6 is substantial though. I don't see Charlotte jumping 7 wins easily. The upside of that team isn't that impressive and Al Jefferson's plantar fasciitis is trouble. They rely on him.

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

48 wins. 2nd in the division. 6th in the conference. Lose in 7 in the first round.

The East got deeper and Cleveland, with Love, will win it (I think I just choked as I wrote that).

The fact that you think the 6th seed in the east has 48 wins is hilarious in itself.

Man. Someone got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.

I may indeed be wrong, but the East seems like it will be way better this year from 1-9 or so with some gawd awful bottom feeders. The top six to nine will get a bunch of easy wins against the likes of the Sixers and Magic.

Cleveland, Chicago seem to me to be locks to eclipse 50.

Indy and Toronto... I'd bet on them too.

Miami, Charlotte, Brooklyn all may be better than we think they'll be.

So yeah, I do think its plausible that 5 teams will win 48 or more.

[Dat2U]

I'd be totally shocked if five teams in the East win 50 games. Cleveland & Chicago will likely get there but even that's not guaranteed.

Indy looks to take a slight hit, I see 44-48 wins for them without a secondary ballhandler with Stephenson gone.

Toronto & Kyle Lowry overachieved last season IMO. Still weak at SF & Valanciunas' development has been really slooooowwww. Still a playoff team but 43-47 wins seems more likely than 50 or more.

Miami will struggle to make the playoffs. You don't go from LeBron to Loul and not notice it in the wins & losses. Charlotte looks better on the perimeter but will be starting Marvin Williams & Al Jefferson up front. Winning half your games with that front line is a major accomplishment. Brooklyn will struggle to make the playoffs as well with a frontline of Brook Lopez, Teletovic & Plumlee.

The East still isn't very good. There's no real legit contender either. Maybe Chicago will get there if Rose is back at 100% (not likely). Cleveland is a work-in-progress. Wiggins isn't ready to help win games. Tristan Thompson has been a major disappointment & terrible defender for them. Kyrie & Dion haven't shown they can play together.

I fully expect the West to completely dominate the league next year. The best team in the East will likely be the 6th or 7th best team in the West and once again, they'll be Western Conference teams that miss the playoffs that could have legitimately made it to the East Conference Finals.

[Ruzious]

To me, Cleveland is easily, and by easily I mean... easily, the best team in the East. Remember, they still have sideshow V and Thompson up front to bang the boards and do the dirty work - and as bad a choice Bennett was - he'll move to his natural PF position and likely be a good backup. And Irving and Waiters should be better with Lebron. Granted, depth could be an issue, but having Lebron tends to make up for that.

[dckingsfan]

Note: If you share a win record, tie is determined by ECS

Wins

57 - deneem4
56 - jeffsays
55 - leswizards
54 - Wizardspride, stevemcqueen1
53 - dangermouse, Hidden Eye
52 - CntOutSmrtCrazy, AFM, hands11, MOrgil
51 - FreeBalling
50 - nuposse04, 2Mas, TheKingOfVa360, CobraCommander, DCZards, WallToWall
49 - thricethefun, gesa2
48 - miller31time, KevinFCheng, jmrosenth, keynote, long suffrin' boulez fan, McFilthy
47 - DCKingsFan, The Fax, Jay81, Nigel Tufnel
46 - nate33, penbeast0, montestewart, DaRealHibachi
45 - Ruzious
44 - MJG
43 - Dat2U
42 - FAH1223
40 - BigA

ECS

2nd - leswizards, deneem4, stevemcqueen1, long suffrin' boulez fan
3rd - miller31time, CntOutSmrtCrazy, 2Mas, FreeBalling, hands11, McFilthy
4th - gesa2, DCZards
5th - DCKingsFan

[dckingsfan]

To me, Cleveland is easily, and by easily I mean... easily, the best team in the East. Remember, they still have sideshow V and Thompson up front to bang the boards and do the dirty work - and as bad a choice Bennett was - he'll move to his natural PF position and likely be a good backup. And Irving and Waiters should be better with Lebron. Granted, depth could be an issue, but having Lebron tends to make up for that.

You may very well be right but I kind of have it going
Chicago (really added a lot of high quality depth)
Cleveland (fish effect - fish notes adjustments and I buy into that now)
Toronto

I think Charlotte and us are neck and neck (going on what happened at the end of last year) - Charlotte got better with Stephenson (of course you never know with Stephenson)

Edit: Toronto will win their division (so they will be at worst the 4th seed)

[Severn Hoos]

OK, I'll put a marker down at 47 wins, but it's still a long way to opening night.

I give the Raptors credit for overachieving last year, but I don't expect them to replicate that success, particularly the good health that helped them to maintain consistency. And they had a winning record against the West - I'd be surprised if they pulled that off again. I see them coming back a bit.

Similar thought for me on Charlotte, they also overachieved. And they're pretty dependent on Al Jefferson - if he goes down for any length of time, they could be in trouble. Smart team, won't beat themselves, [what's that? they added Lance? Scratch that last sentence...]

Indy is a bit of a wildcard. Although I make fun of Lance, losing him could be a big blow to them. Their backcourt is pretty weak, their PF is 47 years old, and their Center is in counseling. (OK, that's not fair either.) But, they have a true superstar, and in the NBA that can be good enough to carry a team fairly far.

Bulls will be very good, although the hobbled Rose (I don't expect him to ever get really close to where he was) will keep them from being true "contenders", although I could definitely see them winning 50 games in the regular season.

Miami should be in that mid to upper 40s wins.

If the wiz put it all together and enjoy good health, they absolutely should play at a 50-win level. But, they're the wiz, so....

I'll go with 47 wins for now. I think they edge the Heat for the Division title (A Banner! A real one! We can hang it next to the Mystics' Attendance Championships!) and end up 3rd seed somewhat by default. I could envision the top 3 records being from the Central Division, with Cleveland & Chicago taking the top 2 seeds, then Wiz & Raptors in 3/4, with Indy/Miami 5th & 6th.

But, again - a long way to go until Halloween. Where does Love land? Does Greg Monroe go somewhere else or stay with the Pistons? Any other trades go down or injuries? How does Rose look? Too many variables to lock in a prediction, other than to take the Eeyore approach and assume that my irrational exuberance will prove to be misguided, and we're probably looking at a 7 seed....

[hands11]

48 wins. 2nd in the division. 6th in the conference. Lose in 7 in the first round.

The East got deeper and Cleveland, with Love, will win it (I think I just choked as I wrote that).

The fact that you think the 6th seed in the east has 48 wins is hilarious in itself.

I don't know, I think the East could have five 50 win teams this year, but we would be one of them:

- Washington
- Chicago
- Indy
- Cleveland
- Toronto

Cleveland I'm not sure about. I think they'd have to get Love to break 50. But it seems like they probably will.

I think the drop off to #6 is substantial though. I don't see Charlotte jumping 7 wins easily. The upside of that team isn't that impressive and Al Jefferson's plantar fasciitis is trouble. They rely on him.

Yeah, CLE is still a wild card. With Love and Without Love I project them to swing at less 2 slots.

And while we will have an adjusting period, I don't see it as similarly tough as it is for them. We have 4 returning starter that made the playoffs Wall, Beal, Nene, Gortat. I don't suspect PP will have a hard time finding a way to fit in to that. He isn't going to be a primary option. Thats going to be Beal, Nene and Gortat. So Wall will set the table, mix in, and find PP lined up at the 3 line. Then in time PP will get his two man game going with Wall and Beal and others.

We should get off to a fast start.

[Ruzious]

To me, Cleveland is easily, and by easily I mean... easily, the best team in the East. Remember, they still have sideshow V and Thompson up front to bang the boards and do the dirty work - and as bad a choice Bennett was - he'll move to his natural PF position and likely be a good backup. And Irving and Waiters should be better with Lebron. Granted, depth could be an issue, but having Lebron tends to make up for that.

You may very well be right but I kind of have it going
Chicago (really added a lot of high quality depth)
Cleveland (fish effect - fish notes adjustments and I buy into that now)
Toronto

I think Charlotte and us are neck and neck (going on what happened at the end of last year) - Charlotte got better with Stephenson (of course you never know with Stephenson)

Edit: Toronto will win their division (so they will be at worst the 4th seed)

I "love" Chicago's move to get Gasol cheaply, but I think it's them that needs to get Love to compete with Cleveland. Imo, Cleveland might be better of without Love - as crazy as that sounds. They don't NEED another score or rebounder, and Wiggins (who would be traded for Love) adds versatility and defense - along with absurd athleticism. But... if Chicago gets Love, that's a huge get for them, because they need a great player like Love to have a shot at beating Cleveland.

[Dat2U]

To me, Cleveland is easily, and by easily I mean... easily, the best team in the East. Remember, they still have sideshow V and Thompson up front to bang the boards and do the dirty work - and as bad a choice Bennett was - he'll move to his natural PF position and likely be a good backup. And Irving and Waiters should be better with Lebron. Granted, depth could be an issue, but having Lebron tends to make up for that.

I could see either Irving or Waiters making significant strides. But both require the ball their hands so it's hard to see both playing better especially with LeBron as dominant ball handler. Waiters spotting up for 3s isn't going to work. I think they'll eventually have to trade one or the other (likely Waiters) at some point this year to improve chemistry.

Also Thompson is pretty bad. I remember we had some discussions about him around the time he got drafted where I was pretty high on him and you weren't. Now, looking back at those conversations, I think you were right. There are just too many limitations in his game offensively to make a positive impact and he's not a good enough defender to offset his lack offensive ability. I think they'll be better off spacing the floor with LeBron at the 4 instead. With Thompson at the 4, LeBron at the 3 and Wiggins shaky jumper at the 2....spacing is going to be a major issue. I don't have a ton of confidence in Bennett either. He should be better offensively this time around (he couldn't be any worse) but as I mentioned when he got drafted, I don't think he has an NBA position that he could defend adequately.

[Ruzious]

To me, Cleveland is easily, and by easily I mean... easily, the best team in the East. Remember, they still have sideshow V and Thompson up front to bang the boards and do the dirty work - and as bad a choice Bennett was - he'll move to his natural PF position and likely be a good backup. And Irving and Waiters should be better with Lebron. Granted, depth could be an issue, but having Lebron tends to make up for that.

I could see either Irving or Waiters making significant strides. But both require the ball their hands so it's hard to see both playing better especially with LeBron as dominant ball handler. Waiters spotting up for 3s isn't going to work. I think they'll eventually have to trade one or the other (likely Waiters) at some point this year to improve chemistry.

Also Thompson is pretty bad. I remember we had some discussions about him around the time he got drafted where I was pretty high on him and you weren't. Now, looking back at those conversations, I think you were right. There are just too many limitations in his game offensively to make a positive impact and he's not a good enough defender to offset his lack offensive ability. I think they'll be better off spacing the floor with LeBron at the 4 instead. With Thompson at the 4, LeBron at the 3 and Wiggins shaky jumper at the 2....spacing is going to be a major issue. I don't have a ton of confidence in Bennett either. He should be better offensively this time around (he couldn't be any worse) but as I mentioned when he got drafted, I don't think he has an NBA position that he could defend adequately.

My impressions of Waiters was the same as yours, but... I read the other day about Waiters catch and shoot stats being surprisingly good, so I think there's hope there. And one of the many benefits of keeping Wiggins is - they don't need to rely on Waiters.

With Thompson and Bennett, you mix and match them. Thompson can play the role of the tough defender, and you want to have that against the rough teams. Bennett can spread the floor when they play against PF's that don't want to leave the interior.

I think Irving becomes a superstar playing next to Lebron. Lebron takes away the stress of running the offense - which I think has been Irving's main weakness. When Lebron joined Wade, people wondered - how is Wade - being a guy who's not even a jump-shooter and demands the ball - going to blend with Lebron. The answer is - they're too good not to blend. They fed off each other. The same should happen with Irving - and Irving has the advantage of being a great jump-shooter.

[dckingsfan]

To me, Cleveland is easily, and by easily I mean... easily, the best team in the East. Remember, they still have sideshow V and Thompson up front to bang the boards and do the dirty work - and as bad a choice Bennett was - he'll move to his natural PF position and likely be a good backup. And Irving and Waiters should be better with Lebron. Granted, depth could be an issue, but having Lebron tends to make up for that.

You may very well be right but I kind of have it going
Chicago (really added a lot of high quality depth)
Cleveland (fish effect - fish notes adjustments and I buy into that now)
Toronto

I think Charlotte and us are neck and neck (going on what happened at the end of last year) - Charlotte got better with Stephenson (of course you never know with Stephenson)

Edit: Toronto will win their division (so they will be at worst the 4th seed)

I "love" Chicago's move to get Gasol cheaply, but I think it's them that needs to get Love to compete with Cleveland. Imo, Cleveland might be better of without Love - as crazy as that sounds. They don't NEED another score or rebounder, and Wiggins (who would be traded for Love) adds versatility and defense - along with absurd athleticism. But... if Chicago gets Love, that's a huge get for them, because they need a great player like Love to have a shot at beating Cleveland.

OK, good perspective I hadn't considered.

I was looking at it the other way where the "leader" of the Chicago team is Noah and the focus is defense. And what they did by adding McDermott and Mirotic to stretch opposing defenses. Butler, McDermott, Dunleavey, Mirotic and even Gasol allows them to have 3 people on the court at all times along with Rose/Hinrich & Gibson/Noah.

[Illmatic12]

Put me down for 48 wins, 4th seed