The One And Only Offseason Thread 4

[bwgood77]

He wants to play for the Lakers at max. Unfortunately the Lakers had the space to offer him max and chose not to. I think Bledsoe will end up a sun, and whether he wants to be here or not he'll play well because he wants to have a good deal next go around as well and it is, you know, his career. Like Batum who didn't want to stay in Portland, he'll be a damn good player for us. I hope we as fans will stop with this knee jerk reactions to trade him for scraps.

A lot of players want to play for the Lakers at max. If he wants to hope for a max to a team like that he needs to try and go for a two year deal.

In all likelihood, he will sign for something like 4/52. I don't see any knee jerk reactions lately to trade him for scraps. I think most people want to keep him, at least until the season starts. If it goes into the season as a stalemate, I'd consider something (like what I mentioned from Milwaukee or possibly that Sac deal just mentioned yet hadn't been mentioned when you posted this) just because I wouldn't want the cloud over our head months into the season.

I'd be 100% confident he would eventually sign around our offer if it was any other agent. I wouldn't be surprised though if his agent rejected the QO and let this drag into the season, because that's when Bledsoe could begin to build leverage.

[JDLAW]

A Dragic and IT2 back court would possibly be the worst starting back court defensively in the league. I think we'd have to start Green (who isn't very good either, but at least he doesn't just get run over like IT2 does by 1/2 the starting PGs in the league) and continue to bring IT2 off the bench.

I guess we cockblocked Milwaukee from giving him that max offer sheet and now Bledsoe is royally pissed. I probably would be also. There's no harm in him waiting till the deadline I suppose. You never know, maybe a team makes a trade and frees up some cap space and then offers him a max deal. If I'm another NBA team I think it's pretty apparent that we don't want Bledsoe here at a max salary.

If it was Milwaukee, it was not a max offer sheet as they never truly had enough cap space. It would have been blocked in a sign and trade where Milwaukee dumped contracts on the Suns and Bledsoe got his max.

[JDLAW]

He wants to play for the Lakers at max. Unfortunately the Lakers had the space to offer him max and chose not to. I think Bledsoe will end up a sun, and whether he wants to be here or not he'll play well because he wants to have a good deal next go around as well and it is, you know, his career. Like Batum who didn't want to stay in Portland, he'll be a damn good player for us. I hope we as fans will stop with this knee jerk reactions to trade him for scraps.

A lot of players want to play for the Lakers at max. If he wants to hope for a max to a team like that he needs to try and go for a two year deal.

In all likelihood, he will sign for something like 4/52. I don't see any knee jerk reactions lately to trade him for scraps. I think most people want to keep him, at least until the season starts. If it goes into the season as a stalemate, I'd consider something (like what I mentioned from Milwaukee or possibly that Sac deal just mentioned) just because I wouldn't want the cloud over our head months into the season.

I'd be 100% confident he would eventually sign around our offer if it was any other agent. I wouldn't be surprised though if his agent rejected the QO and let this drag into the season, because that's when Bledsoe could begin to build leverage.

Actually he does not build any leverage by going into the season. If it goes into the season the Suns just let him sit out the whole season. He loses leverage because if he sits out, he is still a restricted FA next year and the Suns retain the right to match.

[bwgood77]

Actually he does not build any leverage by going into the season. If it goes into the season the Suns just let him sit out the whole season. He loses leverage because if he sits out, he is still a restricted FA next year and the Suns retain the right to match.

Sure, if you think that's what the Suns would want to do, and want to go through all this again next summer. I guess it sounds like something you'd do, but it's not very practical.

[JDLAW]

A Dragic and IT2 back court would possibly be the worst starting back court defensively in the league. I think we'd have to start Green (who isn't very good either, but at least he doesn't just get run over like IT2 does by 1/2 the starting PGs in the league) and continue to bring IT2 off the bench.

I guess we cockblocked Milwaukee from giving him that max offer sheet and now Bledsoe is royally pissed. I probably would be also. There's no harm in him waiting till the deadline I suppose. You never know, maybe a team makes a trade and frees up some cap space and then offers him a max deal. If I'm another NBA team I think it's pretty apparent that we don't want Bledsoe here at a max salary.

I am not sure I agree with your conclusion about it being apparent that we do not want Bledsoe at a max contract. I do think it is pretty apparent that other teams do not want Bledsoe at a max.

[JDLAW]

Actually he does not build any leverage by going into the season. If it goes into the season the Suns just let him sit out the whole season. He loses leverage because if he sits out, he is still a restricted FA next year and the Suns retain the right to match.

Sure, if you think that's what the Suns would want to do, and want to go through all this again next summer. I guess it sounds like something you'd do, but it's not very practical.

It is not necessarily what I'd do, but I think the Suns might. I do not think they allow themselves to be worked by Bledsoe and his agent into taking scraps from another team for him. The point is that it does not gain him leverage.

[Sunsdeuce]

Do the pacers have anything remotely enticing? They are desperate and Bledsoe would help them out a lot.


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[JDLAW]

Do the pacers have anything remotely enticing? They are desperate and Bledsoe would help them out a lot.


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They really do not.

[bwgood77]

Actually he does not build any leverage by going into the season. If it goes into the season the Suns just let him sit out the whole season. He loses leverage because if he sits out, he is still a restricted FA next year and the Suns retain the right to match.

Sure, if you think that's what the Suns would want to do, and want to go through all this again next summer. I guess it sounds like something you'd do, but it's not very practical.

It is not necessarily what I'd do, but I think the Suns might. I do not think they allow themselves to be worked by Bledsoe and his agent into taking scraps from another team for him.

It's possible. Do you think there is any chance they end up raising the QO? This happened with David Lee in NY. He could potentially fetch more in a trade offer that way than sitting out and demanding max, but of course he'd have to be willing to go to the team we had a good offer from and they would have to be willing to give him their full max next summer and could potentially lose him for nothing.

[bwgood77]

Do the pacers have anything remotely enticing? They are desperate and Bledsoe would help them out a lot.

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Well PG isn't nearly their biggest need. Their big hole is now at the 2 and 3. And yeah, they don't have any assets worth it. There has been talk about West, but he's old and it would also then leave them with a big hole at PF.

[JDLAW]

Sure, if you think that's what the Suns would want to do, and want to go through all this again next summer. I guess it sounds like something you'd do, but it's not very practical.

It is not necessarily what I'd do, but I think the Suns might. I do not think they allow themselves to be worked by Bledsoe and his agent into taking scraps from another team for him.

It's possible. Do you think there is any chance they end up raising the QO? This happened with David Lee in NY. He could potentially fetch more in a trade offer that way than sitting out and demanding max, but of course he'd have to be willing to go to the team we had a good offer from and they would have to be willing to give him their full max next summer and could potentially lose him for nothing.

That's possible also, but its a lot of moving parts and cannot see why you'd raise the QO. I agree with your earlier sentiments, he will likely eventually sign a contract, but we are all going to hear more crap.

[drewsprocket]

Suns should have gone after Lance Stephenson for the money he had. Lance would do so much better in a SG role alongside Dragic and is a better competitor and defender than Bledsoe -- both are about the same in terms of scoring. The head case issues seem transient between his statstuffing, competitive nature with teammates, and going Rodman. The guy wants to win, bad. I can't say the same for Bledsoe; his priority thus far was being in a contract year and being recognized as a Max guy. Anyway, too late now.

[bwgood77]

I wish we would have taken Gary Harris with our second pick. I kind of hoped we took him or Hood at the time, but especially now that we have signed IT and with this Bledsoe situation, it would be nice to have a young 2 who's strength is supposed to be shooting. To have a young guy on a rookie contract that we felt could be a knock down shooter (and good perimeter defender) at the 2 if we needed one long term would be a good asset to have. Harris wasn't one of my favorites in the draft by any means, but I think he could have been a steal at 18.

[SSOL]

For what it's worth, the NBA rookie class voted Ennis the best playmaker from the draft.

[gaspar]

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[carey]

They're calling Bledsoe's set-shot thing he does a pull-up jumper? O.k.

[Fo-Real]

To the Bucks for Knight and Henson... they are looking for an identity for thier new coach and might pony up a near max deal for him.

[Sunsdeuce]

To the Bucks for Knight and Henson... they are looking for an identity for thier new coach and might pony up a near max deal for him.

I've read a few places and heard Jason Kidd is big on Bledsoe. So I can see why the bucks fans are wanting Bledsoe so bad. I'm not going to be surprised if Bledsoe ends up on the bucks.

It's time to move Bledsoe. As a coach and GM, you want your players to be humble. Bledsoe is far from that. Bledsoe and his sense of entitlement can go somewhere else.


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[AtheJ415]

To the Bucks for Knight and Henson... they are looking for an identity for thier new coach and might pony up a near max deal for him.

I've read a few places and heard Jason Kidd is big on Bledsoe. So I can see why the bucks fans are wanting Bledsoe so bad. I'm not going to be surprised if Bledsoe ends up on the bucks.

It's time to move Bledsoe. As a coach and GM, you want your players to be humble. Bledsoe is far from that. Bledsoe and his sense of entitlement can go somewhere else.


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Knee jerk reaction imo. Neither of those guys make this team better than with Bledsoe on it. I don't think he's all that entitled for wanting a higher salary, and even if he is it's not like he suddenly became entitled this offseason--he would've been that same way last year.

[AtheJ415]

The only way Phoenix comes out of this offseason as losers is by moving Bledsoe for anything other than a great return. You don't continue to repeat the Joe Johnson situation.