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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 5: Dinnertime! 

Post#1101 » by Sunsdeuce » Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:19 am

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Wolves_Nation wrote:Suns fans: Minnesota would much rather have Wiggins than Bledsoe. Don't know where you are getting the Bledsoe over Wiggins stuff. Wiggins has been the target for a long time.

And you know this how?

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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 5: Dinnertime! 

Post#1102 » by Cutter » Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:21 am

ray ray wrote:I haven't read thru all the pages but this is what I've gathered from my sources...

Look for a three team deal that would involved the Cavs, Suns and Wolves.

Wolves:
Anthony Bennett
Eric Bledsoe
Gerald Green

Cavs:
Kevin Love

Suns:
Andrew Wiggins
Zac LaVine or Deion Waiters

I'm sure there's some 1st rounders going to Minny.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 5: Dinnertime! 

Post#1103 » by Takingbaconback » Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:23 am

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Wolves_Nation wrote:Suns fans: Minnesota would much rather have Wiggins than Bledsoe. Don't know where you are getting the Bledsoe over Wiggins stuff. Wiggins has been the target for a long time.

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Because Minny sources have been reliable and one is very close to Saunders. Flip actually goes on radio show with Dan Barreiro on KFAN and is buddy buddy with him. Minnesota sources were the first to break the KLove to Cavs deal, they have been saying Bennett will not be moved to Philly for a month now for Thad Young despite what other sources said.

Darren Wolfson and Krawczynski explicitly have stated Wiggins was the target for over a month now over any other deal even Klay Thompson when those talks resurfaced.

Brian Windhorst who has known about the Cavs-Wolves for three months now, is saying suns deal was rejected and obviously wolves are taking Wiggins.

Plus it makes no sense. Why would anybody trade Wiggins for Bledsoe who is an injury risk and wants more than 12 million a year? Suns are just getting Bledsoe's name out there.
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 5: Dinnertime! 

Post#1104 » by DowJones » Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:23 am

SunsFanSSOL wrote:With 2 of our 1st's going to Minnesota

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mtwv7op


I am pretty sure Cleveland can't trade Kyrie until January and they wouldn't consider that deal in the first place. I have NO interest in Bledsoe and his defective knee.
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Post#1105 » by SSOL » Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:25 am

No chance does this happen.
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Post#1106 » by jcsunsfan » Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:26 am

ray ray wrote:I haven't read thru all the pages but this is what I've gathered from my sources...

Look for a three team deal that would involved the Cavs, Suns and Wolves.

Wolves:
Anthony Bennett
Eric Bledsoe
Gerald Green

Cavs:
Kevin Love

Suns:
Andrew Wiggins
Zac LaVine or Deion Waiters

I'm sure there's some 1st rounders going to Minny.


No way. I would be shocked.
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Post#1107 » by RunDogGun » Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:29 am

Buzz kills! :( man you guys can't give us even a few hours of joy. :lol: Isn't bad enough you guys keep teasing us with the draft pick?
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The One And Only Offseason Thread 5: Dinnertime! 

Post#1108 » by Sunsdeuce » Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:34 am

Takingbaconback wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:
Wolves_Nation wrote:Suns fans: Minnesota would much rather have Wiggins than Bledsoe. Don't know where you are getting the Bledsoe over Wiggins stuff. Wiggins has been the target for a long time.

And you know this how?


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Because Minny sources have been reliable and one is very close to Saunders. Flip actually goes on radio show with Dan Barreiro on KFAN and is buddy buddy with him. Minnesota sources were the first to break the KLove to Cavs deal, they have been saying Bennett will not be moved to Philly for a month now for Thad Young despite what other sources said.

Darren Wolfson and Krawczynski explicitly have stated Wiggins was the target for over a month now over any other deal even Klay Thompson when those talks resurfaced.

Brian Windhorst who has known about the Cavs-Wolves for three months now, is saying suns deal was rejected and obviously wolves are taking Wiggins.

Plus it makes no sense. Why would anybody trade Wiggins for Bledsoe who is an injury risk and wants more than 12 million a year? Suns are just getting Bledsoe's name out there.

Lol, you quoted Brian fathorst. First mistake.


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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 5: Dinnertime! 

Post#1109 » by letsgosuns » Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:35 am

I would be shocked if the Suns are able to trade a re-sgined Eric Bledsoe, Gerald Green, and first round picks for Andrew Wiggins and Zach Lavine/Dion Waiters. Bledsoe is so awesome, but I thought Wiggins was the centerpiece of the deal for the Timberwolves and the main reason they basically stopped negotiations with all other teams for Love. Flip Saunders did say many times though that he was interested in getting players to make the Wolves better right now as opposed to waiting around for players to develop, so who knows.
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Post#1110 » by DRK » Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:35 am

ray ray wrote:I haven't read thru all the pages but this is what I've gathered from my sources...

Look for a three team deal that would involved the Cavs, Suns and Wolves.

Wolves:
Anthony Bennett
Eric Bledsoe
Gerald Green

Cavs:
Kevin Love

Suns:
Andrew Wiggins
Zac LaVine or Deion Waiters

I'm sure there's some 1st rounders going to Minny.


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Post#1111 » by Kerrsed » Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:38 am

ray ray wrote:I haven't read thru all the pages but this is what I've gathered from my sources...

Look for a three team deal that would involved the Cavs, Suns and Wolves.

Wolves:
Anthony Bennett
Eric Bledsoe
Gerald Green

Cavs:
Kevin Love

Suns:
Andrew Wiggins
Zac LaVine or Deion Waiters

I'm sure there's some 1st rounders going to Minny.


Thanks for info and basically confirming my source is hearing the same thing. So now that makes 2 different sources that have pretty much said the same thing, we are going after Wiggins. Also it looks more like my idea from a few days ago is getting closer to fruition. :D
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Post#1112 » by SunsFanSSOL » Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:41 am

Rich Paul and LeBron basically run the Cavs. No surprise if they told them to get the Suns involved in a 4 way trade in order to get their boy Bledsoe paid. The main issue with the Warriors trade was that Flip was unwilling to take David Lee's contract and the Warriors were unwilling to take Martin. Maybe the Suns agreed to take on Martin's salary?
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Re: The One And Only Offseason Thread 5: Dinnertime! 

Post#1113 » by paulpressey25 » Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:52 am

SunsFanSSOL wrote:Rich Paul and LeBron basically run the Cavs. No surprise if they told them to get the Suns involved in a 4 way trade in order to get their boy Bledsoe paid.


Or to get Bledsoe's name out there as an asset supposedly on par with Wiggins. Helps the Suns and helps Rich Paul.

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Post#1114 » by Flying Colors » Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:56 am

so lets say this deal goes through, are we looking at

Dragic/Thomas/Ennis
Waiters or LaVine/ Archie
Tucker/Marcus/Warren/Wiggins
Markieff/Marcus/Tolliver
Plumeless/Len/Randolph

if we get Lavine and not Waiters, will it be a summercamp battle between LaVine and Goodwin who gets nod at the starting position? Or will we stick with Dragic at SG, and Let Thomas start at PG. We would probably be weak defensively then if we did that. Lastly we are deep at SF, with two promising rookies fighting for scrap minutes
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Post#1115 » by Sunsdeuce » Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:56 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
SunsFanSSOL wrote:Rich Paul and LeBron basically run the Cavs. No surprise if they told them to get the Suns involved in a 4 way trade in order to get their boy Bledsoe paid.


Or to get Bledsoe's name out there as an asset supposedly on par with Wiggins. Helps the Suns and helps Rich Paul.

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Post#1116 » by RunDogGun » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:03 am

BizzyPHX wrote:so lets say this deal goes through, are we looking at

Dragic/Thomas/Ennis
Waiters or LaVine/ Archie
Tucker/Marcus/Warren/Wiggins
Markieff/Marcus/Tolliver
Plumeless/Len/Randolph

if we get Lavine and not Waiters, will it be a summercamp battle between LaVine and Goodwin who gets nod at the starting position? Or will we stick with Dragic at SG, and Let Thomas start at PG. We would probably be weak defensively then if we did that. Lastly we are deep at SF, with two promising rookies fighting for scrap minutes

If that was our roster, couldn't Wiggins get the starting sg spot?
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Post#1117 » by Flying Colors » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:21 am

RunDogGun wrote:
BizzyPHX wrote:so lets say this deal goes through, are we looking at


if we get Lavine and not Waiters, will it be a summercamp battle between LaVine and Goodwin who gets nod at the starting position? Or will we stick with Dragic at SG, and Let Thomas start at PG. We would probably be weak defensively then if we did that. Lastly we are deep at SF, with two promising rookies fighting for scrap minutes

If that was our roster, couldn't Wiggins get the starting sg spot?

you are right, that could be an option as well

Dragic/Thomas/Ennis
Wiggins/Waiters or LaVine/ Archie
Tucker/Marcus/Warren/
Markieff/Marcus/Tolliver
Plumeless/Len/Randolph
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Post#1119 » by Kerrsed » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:24 am

letsgosuns wrote:I would be shocked if the Suns are able to trade a re-sgined Eric Bledsoe, Gerald Green, and first round picks for Andrew Wiggins and Zach Lavine/Dion Waiters. Bledsoe is so awesome, but I thought Wiggins was the centerpiece of the deal for the Timberwolves and the main reason they basically stopped negotiations with all other teams for Love. Flip Saunders did say many times though that he was interested in getting players to make the Wolves better right now as opposed to waiting around for players to develop, so who knows.


They stopped negotiating with other teams because:

A. GS was not going to include Klay in any deal.

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B. The Suns didnt want to part with Dragic or Bledsoe.

It was down to a 3 team race, GS, Cleveland, and us. We were the first team out. Then the Wolves tried to play the lying game to force the remaining two teams to better their offers. Klay was never on the table, Wolves put that out there to make Cleveland step up their offer. They made it a little better, but not everything the Wolves wanted, so they then leaked that offer out there hoping GS would now include Klay, but thats when GS walked away from the table.

Now that things havent gone as plan regarding us and Bledsoe, we are making him available to the teams that showed interest in him. We are now putting him out there and trying to get the best deal that we can to help secure our future.

The Wolves idea was to get the best trade they could for Love. It wasnt necessarily that they wanted to make Wiggins a centerpiece, it was all about getting the best value that they could. Many believe that if GS would have included Klay, the Wolves would have jumped on it and taken him over Wiggins. For months the word was that the Wolves wanted to compete right away, instead of spending time developing young players who just might walk away or force a trade, like they have done in the past. They want to compete now and rub it in Love's face that they made the play-offs without him right away.

Bledsoe/Green/Bennett/Young/Suns 1st for Love/Shved/Mbah-a-Moute is a pretty good haul, considering it was for a star that was forcing his way out of town and everybody knew it. Wolves get plenty of young talent that have already developed and have shown that they have skills and can help them make the playoffs this upcoming season.
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Post#1120 » by narmenta » Sat Aug 23, 2014 4:28 am

Haha meme winner.

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ray ray wrote:I haven't read thru all the pages but this is what I've gathered from my sources...

Look for a three team deal that would involved the Cavs, Suns and Wolves.

Wolves:
Anthony Bennett
Eric Bledsoe
Gerald Green

Cavs:
Kevin Love

Suns:
Andrew Wiggins
Zac LaVine or Deion Waiters

I'm sure there's some 1st rounders going to Minny.


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