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Re: JV at World Cup 2014 

Post#1341 » by Thespianoid » Thu Sep 4, 2014 7:49 pm

Gassed Jonas couldn't keep up with the sprinting Slovenian big. Too bad.
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Re: JV at World Cup 2014 

Post#1342 » by ATLTimekeeper » Thu Sep 4, 2014 7:49 pm

Lithuania owned the inside, but I still don't know why they can't get a whistle from the refs. Zero FTs in the blowout against Korea and now they're getting smacked around by Slovenia and not getting to the line.
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Re: JV at World Cup 2014 

Post#1343 » by Thespianoid » Thu Sep 4, 2014 7:51 pm

that replay of Jonas, what a move.
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Re: JV at World Cup 2014 

Post#1344 » by Thespianoid » Thu Sep 4, 2014 7:54 pm

Vasiliauskas has pulled up too early on his drives a number of times now.
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Re: JV at World Cup 2014 

Post#1345 » by Clementine9 » Thu Sep 4, 2014 7:57 pm

Was that two dribbles by Dragic to get to the other end?
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Re: JV at World Cup 2014 

Post#1346 » by Thespianoid » Thu Sep 4, 2014 7:58 pm

Clementine9 wrote:Was that two dribbles by Dragic to get to the other end?


I see what you did there :lol:
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Re: JV at World Cup 2014 

Post#1347 » by Clementine9 » Thu Sep 4, 2014 8:00 pm

Joney back in!
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Post#1348 » by Clementine9 » Thu Sep 4, 2014 8:01 pm

DM and JV are beasts for Lithuania.
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Re: JV at World Cup 2014 

Post#1349 » by Thespianoid » Thu Sep 4, 2014 8:02 pm

Jonas jumping the ballhandler, letting the big slip through. No good.
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Post#1350 » by Clementine9 » Thu Sep 4, 2014 8:02 pm

What the hell is the point of trying to trap the guard if no one rotates? This has been going on since the beginning of August.
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Re: JV at World Cup 2014 

Post#1351 » by Clementine9 » Thu Sep 4, 2014 8:03 pm

Thespianoid wrote:Jonas jumping the ballhandler, letting the big slip through. No good.


But I think that's how they're choosing as a team to defend it. I don't get it.
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Re: JV at World Cup 2014 

Post#1352 » by Laure » Thu Sep 4, 2014 8:04 pm

Jonas is a stiff compared with the Slovenian centre. That guy is even taller than JV, yet he stills seems quicker on his feet. Dissapointing.
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Re: JV at World Cup 2014 

Post#1353 » by Thespianoid » Thu Sep 4, 2014 8:04 pm

Clementine9 wrote:
Thespianoid wrote:Jonas jumping the ballhandler, letting the big slip through. No good.


But I think that's how they're choosing as a team to defend it. I don't get it.


Yeah it's really not smart at all. Especially when nobody rotates, and your personnel just isn't capable of performing that type of defense effectively. Jonas isn't quick enough anymore to do that.
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Re: JV at World Cup 2014 

Post#1354 » by Clementine9 » Thu Sep 4, 2014 8:06 pm

Laure wrote:Jonas is a stiff compared with the Slovenian centre. That guy is even taller than JV, yet he stills seems quicker on his feet. Dissapointing.


That match up has hardly been an issue so far. No one can guard JV and the only points the Slovenian center has scored (from what I can remember) have been from bad Lithuanian turnovers to run outs and that wide open dunk because no on rotated.

EDIT: And I'm still not sure whose fault that pick and roll defense is.
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Re: JV at World Cup 2014 

Post#1355 » by Thespianoid » Thu Sep 4, 2014 8:07 pm

That could have easily been a foul from Omic.
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Re: JV at World Cup 2014 

Post#1356 » by ATLTimekeeper » Thu Sep 4, 2014 8:08 pm

They're getting away with holds on JV on the roll now. He's still beasting them.
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Re: JV at World Cup 2014 

Post#1357 » by Laure » Thu Sep 4, 2014 8:09 pm

Clementine9 wrote:
Laure wrote:Jonas is a stiff compared with the Slovenian centre. That guy is even taller than JV, yet he stills seems quicker on his feet. Dissapointing.


That match up has hardly been an issue so far. No one can guard JV and the only points the Slovenian center has scored (from what I can remember) have been from bad Lithuanian turnovers to run outs and that wide open dunk because no on rotated.

EDIT: And I'm still not sure whose fault that pick and roll defense is.


I just say what I see. That Omic guy is quicker, yet not as strong as JV. JV is scoring at will, I'm not dissing his input on offense. Yet on defense, his PnR defense doesn't add much to the team's effort. Not saying LTU is good with it.
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Re: JV at World Cup 2014 

Post#1358 » by Clementine9 » Thu Sep 4, 2014 8:10 pm

ATLTimekeeper wrote:They're getting away with holds on JV on the roll now. He's still beasting them.


Yeah, offense looks solid. Jonas has looked all right on defense but he's had a couple lapses. Looks like the coach was mad at him last time on defense. Could have just been because of a missed rebound.
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Re: JV at World Cup 2014 

Post#1359 » by Thespianoid » Thu Sep 4, 2014 8:12 pm

Jonas moved his feet well there guarding Dragic on the switch. Just didn't time the block correctly.

Too bad Lithuania can't defend as a team.
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Re: JV at World Cup 2014 

Post#1360 » by Clementine9 » Thu Sep 4, 2014 8:12 pm

****. Unfortunate final defensive stand before halftime.
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