Fantasy Basketball !!!!!!!!!

[b-ball forever]

I would like to also discuss the fact that there is no way TASTIC takes Westbrook over CP3, and he's bluffing. Lets debate this

CP3 and Westbrook should be really close this year, it's not outta the question.

[DRK]

I would like to also discuss the fact that there is no way TASTIC takes Westbrook over CP3, and he's bluffing. Lets debate this

CP3 and Westbrook should be really close this year, it's not outta the question.

I prefer CP3 more than Westbrook, but to each his own. TASTIC was a CP3 owner last season, and I remember CP3 going nuts at the start of the season, which catapulted TASTIC's team up the rankings.

[Phystic]

Ive got a mate that is able to play a potential H2H league with us. So that brings our count to four. I'll try to post a list within the next 12 hours, hangover allowing. Naturally, if we fill out the desired 12 player minimum, it would simply be the first 12 players able to sign on

Are we talking H2H instead of or in addition to the ROTO league?

In addition to the roto league, of course. The Premier league is always the Premier league and that's the one we all want to win. But this would be a side league for those who wish to play a H2H league with other forum members, who will no doubt still be very competitive.

I know the Premier league is different. I mean are we saying changing the Chinese league to H2H instead of Roto or adding a 4th league all together?

[b-ball forever]

I would like to also discuss the fact that there is no way TASTIC takes Westbrook over CP3, and he's bluffing. Lets debate this

CP3 and Westbrook should be really close this year, it's not outta the question.

I prefer CP3 more than Westbrook, but to each his own. TASTIC was a CP3 owner last season, and I remember CP3 going nuts at the start of the season, which catapulted TASTIC's team up the rankings.

As of now I'd take CP3 over Westbrook too, and Paul was clearly the better player overall last year.
But Westbrook showed 2 faces last year : when either hurt or shaking off the rust he sucked, while he was a beast when fully healthy. In the games they were both healthy, they were on par.

[Phystic]

All this talk of H2H leagues makes me sick.........

That is all!!!

Or you could just not post anything about it at all if you don't want to join. Im doing this because I want to play a h2h league, which I haven't done in about three/four seasons. I have only ever done one team per year, so for the past few seasons its only been the realgm Suns league and roto.

Right now we've got four players, so we're 8 off our minimum target.

don't take offense Sunskerr. It's not a go at you or anyone else really, I just refuse to play H2H in Bball or......well any other league other than NFL really. Too many variables when talking schedule. If you play H2H smartly you just rotate your bottom 3 players with the waiver wire so you have maximum games played. IMO there is not a lot of skill involved in H2H for this reason.

Don't understand the logic with H2H not requiring skill.

Same basic principles apply. ROTO is a lot more dependent on a good draft because making up ground can be nearly impossible once you get a ways into the season.

There are a max number of games played so you can't just max out games every day. For instance in ESPN there is a max of 40 games(though if you end Saturday at 39 you can play 10 on Sunday so a sort of max of 49 games) so a lot of times you have to not play guys to insure that you can actually have games played on Sunday.

There is more than enough strategy in H2H leagues. If you don't like it, that's fine. But saying it doesn't require skill is off base.

The scheduling is actually part of the skill. I'm not sure how you can say things like the different schedules makes it unfair but also say it doesn't require skill.

[sunskerr]

I know the Premier league is different. I mean are we saying changing the Chinese league to H2H instead of Roto or adding a 4th league all together?

It would be a fourth league. We're not replacing any of the three roto leagues. Check your pms. I sent you a pm asking if you want to join the h2h league.

[DRK]

For what its worth, im cool with "Un-Official Drafting."

As Adam Silver would say, "the pick is in," so all I need is the green light!

[Kerrsed]

For what its worth, im cool with "Un-Official Drafting."

As Adam Silver would say, "the pick is in," so all I need is the green light!

We will give it another week or two before i let you announce your Davis pick.

[thamadkant]

Miklo..

Has Sunscorched replied?

Im itching to draft!! hehe

[Never Fear 33 Is Here]

Or you could just not post anything about it at all if you don't want to join. Im doing this because I want to play a h2h league, which I haven't done in about three/four seasons. I have only ever done one team per year, so for the past few seasons its only been the realgm Suns league and roto.

Right now we've got four players, so we're 8 off our minimum target.

don't take offense Sunskerr. It's not a go at you or anyone else really, I just refuse to play H2H in Bball or......well any other league other than NFL really. Too many variables when talking schedule. If you play H2H smartly you just rotate your bottom 3 players with the waiver wire so you have maximum games played. IMO there is not a lot of skill involved in H2H for this reason.

Don't understand the logic with H2H not requiring skill.

Same basic principles apply. ROTO is a lot more dependent on a good draft because making up ground can be nearly impossible once you get a ways into the season.

There are a max number of games played so you can't just max out games every day. For instance in ESPN there is a max of 40 games(though if you end Saturday at 39 you can play 10 on Sunday so a sort of max of 49 games) so a lot of times you have to not play guys to insure that you can actually have games played on Sunday.

There is more than enough strategy in H2H leagues. If you don't like it, that's fine. But saying it doesn't require skill is off base.

The scheduling is actually part of the skill. I'm not sure how you can say things like the different schedules makes it unfair but also say it doesn't require skill.

I have never played ESPN, but if it indeed has a max number of games per week, then that would be a shipload better. Yahoo! (The leagues I played in with H2H) never had a max number of games per week. It was basically a free for all and the teams that picked up and dropped players willie nillie were always up the top of the standings. I actually caught onto this when I last played and after being down the bottom all season picked up this strategy, scraped into the playoffs and took the league out. LOL.

As for not requiring skill, I stand by it. If you pick KD and your opponent has LBJ and you just happen to play against him/her when KD has 2 games in the week and LBJ has 5 games, you've got very little chance of getting the W. This has very little to do with skill. Also add to that the Playoffs coincide with the end of the season when many stars and integral parts are being rested. At least in Roto you can plan for such a thing during the season by playing more games. Much more strategy and skill involved.

[sunskerr]

Sent out three invites to CalvinKlein, Bwgood77 and phystic.

-Sunskerr
-CalvinKlein
-Bwgood77
-phystic

My friend is pending currently. I will probably create another thread soon with details and a better list of confirmed/pending. That will also help us get the word out. Again, we're definitely still open. If you want to join, let me know by posting here or (much preferred) by sending me a PM. This will be an offline draft on this board for sure.

[Phystic]

don't take offense Sunskerr. It's not a go at you or anyone else really, I just refuse to play H2H in Bball or......well any other league other than NFL really. Too many variables when talking schedule. If you play H2H smartly you just rotate your bottom 3 players with the waiver wire so you have maximum games played. IMO there is not a lot of skill involved in H2H for this reason.

Don't understand the logic with H2H not requiring skill.

Same basic principles apply. ROTO is a lot more dependent on a good draft because making up ground can be nearly impossible once you get a ways into the season.

There are a max number of games played so you can't just max out games every day. For instance in ESPN there is a max of 40 games(though if you end Saturday at 39 you can play 10 on Sunday so a sort of max of 49 games) so a lot of times you have to not play guys to insure that you can actually have games played on Sunday.

There is more than enough strategy in H2H leagues. If you don't like it, that's fine. But saying it doesn't require skill is off base.

The scheduling is actually part of the skill. I'm not sure how you can say things like the different schedules makes it unfair but also say it doesn't require skill.

I have never played ESPN, but if it indeed has a max number of games per week, then that would be a shipload better. Yahoo! (The leagues I played in with H2H) never had a max number of games per week. It was basically a free for all and the teams that picked up and dropped players willie nillie were always up the top of the standings. I actually caught onto this when I last played and after being down the bottom all season picked up this strategy, scraped into the playoffs and took the league out. LOL.

As for not requiring skill, I stand by it. If you pick KD and your opponent has LBJ and you just happen to play against him/her when KD has 2 games in the week and LBJ has 5 games, you've got very little chance of getting the W. This has very little to do with skill. Also add to that the Playoffs coincide with the end of the season when many stars and integral parts are being rested. At least in Roto you can plan for such a thing during the season by playing more games. Much more strategy and skill involved.

Ya with no max players then it is pretty terrible. But the same can be said about any other system. What if there is no maximum in roto? Punt %s and just pick up guys nonstop.

And sorry but you're wrong. Top players are definitely important but Lebron having 3 more games does not mean that team automatically wins.

To be honest I'm really shocked that someone(or multiple people on this thread) thinks Roto takes more skill and doesn't see how H2H requires plenty of skill to be good at. Drafting, picking the correct players to play that week, considering matchups, trading for people that have a beneficial playoff schedule, knowing when and who to target in trades/waivers..

Like I said, It's completely fair. You can have your opinion. I'm just baffled by it.

[b-ball forever]

Any fantasy league takes skill, but in ROTO the best team ALWAYS wins if managed correctly, while in H2H there is a very big luck factor.

[Miklo]

Miklo..

Has Sunscorched replied?

Im itching to draft!! hehe

Not yet, read it though so it should be soon for me to get the draft order set!

[Phystic]

Any fantasy league takes skill, but in ROTO the best team ALWAYS wins if managed correctly, while in H2H there is a very big luck factor.

ALL fantasy has a luck factor. H2H may have a bit more simply because there is a playoff so health during that time is critical.

[bwgood77]

Or you could just not post anything about it at all if you don't want to join. Im doing this because I want to play a h2h league, which I haven't done in about three/four seasons. I have only ever done one team per year, so for the past few seasons its only been the realgm Suns league and roto.

Right now we've got four players, so we're 8 off our minimum target.

don't take offense Sunskerr. It's not a go at you or anyone else really, I just refuse to play H2H in Bball or......well any other league other than NFL really. Too many variables when talking schedule. If you play H2H smartly you just rotate your bottom 3 players with the waiver wire so you have maximum games played. IMO there is not a lot of skill involved in H2H for this reason.

Don't understand the logic with H2H not requiring skill.

Same basic principles apply. ROTO is a lot more dependent on a good draft because making up ground can be nearly impossible once you get a ways into the season.

There are a max number of games played so you can't just max out games every day. For instance in ESPN there is a max of 40 games(though if you end Saturday at 39 you can play 10 on Sunday so a sort of max of 49 games) so a lot of times you have to not play guys to insure that you can actually have games played on Sunday.

There is more than enough strategy in H2H leagues. If you don't like it, that's fine. But saying it doesn't require skill is off base.

The scheduling is actually part of the skill. I'm not sure how you can say things like the different schedules makes it unfair but also say it doesn't require skill.

I agree. This is ridiculous. H2H keeps everything a little closer for everyone because injuries are not killers as much. Roto is skewed more towards luck with injuries imo. If you have a really good roster but are killed due to injuries early, you can make a comeback when healthy in H2H category, wheareas in Roto, if you get behind because of a major injury you are probably done.

I hadn't done roto in like 10 years before getting into the fantasy league last year. H2H is just a lot more conducive to keep more teams interested all season.

[bwgood77]

Any fantasy league takes skill, but in ROTO the best team ALWAYS wins if managed correctly, while in H2H there is a very big luck factor.

I disagree, as I explained in my last post. If you think avoiding players with injuries is a skill you could be right, but the best team may not alway win in roto. I shy away in general from injury prone players anyway, but I especially do so in roto.

[bwgood77]

Sent out three invites to CalvinKlein, Bwgood77 and phystic.

-Sunskerr
-CalvinKlein
-Bwgood77
-phystic

My friend is pending currently. I will probably create another thread soon with details and a better list of confirmed/pending. That will also help us get the word out. Again, we're definitely still open. If you want to join, let me know by posting here or (much preferred) by sending me a PM. This will be an offline draft on this board for sure.

If you need more, and don't have enough at some point, I'm sure my brother would do it too.

[b-ball forever]

Any fantasy league takes skill, but in ROTO the best team ALWAYS wins if managed correctly, while in H2H there is a very big luck factor.

ALL fantasy has a luck factor. H2H may have a bit more simply because there is a playoff so health during that time is critical.

Being better than another team over a single week has a lot of luck involved in it. It' s not just injuries, there's also the number of games played per week by each team per week, and suspensions. Being better over a whole season doesn't have anywhere near as much luck involved as even injuries can be dealt with a lot easier in ROTO, since u can come up with long term strategies and replacements to minimize damage, unlike H2H were a short term injuries destroys your team in the playoffs

[Phystic]

Any fantasy league takes skill, but in ROTO the best team ALWAYS wins if managed correctly, while in H2H there is a very big luck factor.

ALL fantasy has a luck factor. H2H may have a bit more simply because there is a playoff so health during that time is critical.

Being better than another team over a single week has a lot of luck involved in it. It' s not just injuries, there's also the number of games played per week by each team per week, and suspensions. Being better over a whole season doesn't have anywhere near as much luck involved as even injuries can be dealt with a lot easier in ROTO, since u can come up with long term strategies and replacements to minimize damage, unlike H2H were a short term injuries destroys your team in the playoffs

Injuries can put you way behind in Roto leagues right off the bat. So not really sure how that is any better.

Suspensions are hardly something that needs to be talked about because there are a handful of suspended players in a season not something that has any real impact. Number of games played each week is usually fairly even. Of course there are weeks where you may be behind but you can use waiver wire to supplement a few games.