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Offseason Thread 7: A Tale Of Two Dragons

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Re: Offseason Thread 7: A Tale Of Two Dragons 

Post#361 » by NavLDO » Wed Oct 1, 2014 3:39 am

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Goran Dragic specifically mentioned how impressed he's been with Len so far in the workouts as well.

"He looks really good, much better than last year. Last year he had a lot of injuries, but this year he's moving well, and in the pick-up games we've been playing he looks amazing."

Goran also went on to explain that Alex, along with Archie Goodwin, has been one of the team's biggest surprises compared to last year.

"I think Alex is really more comfortable. He's got that fire back in him, and I think he can help this team a lot this season."


Man, if what Goran says is accurate and actually translates on the court, we might be a "TJ Warren" away from being a solid 4-6 seed team THIS year. I mean, let's look at where they might 'fallout' in rankings at their positions this year (if EB stays healthy)

Dragic - Top 5
EB - Top 10
PJ - Bottom 10
Kieff - Top 12
Len - Top 15ish

Then add in IT, who would HAVE to be considered the top backup PG in the league, followed by Green, a top 5 backup and Goodwin, at SG, at worst, a developing TJ Warren and/or Marcus Morris/Gerald Green at backup SF, Marcus Morris/Toliver as backup PF, and Plumlee as a hustle guy/spark to share about equal minutes with Len at the 5.

I mean, we may not have top "All Star" talents starting, but we've got about the most talented bench AND flexibility out there.

So, here's to Len and Goodwin turning the corner this year and making significant impact to our team! :nod:
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Re: Offseason Thread 7: A Tale Of Two Dragons 

Post#362 » by BurningHeart » Wed Oct 1, 2014 4:32 am

God, I hope Dragic helps Len blossom into a beast.
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Re: Offseason Thread 7: A Tale Of Two Dragons 

Post#363 » by LukasBMW » Wed Oct 1, 2014 4:56 am

LOL. And so many people gave me **** when I said that Len and Archie should take steroids over summer.

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Re: Offseason Thread 7: A Tale Of Two Dragons 

Post#364 » by thamadkant » Wed Oct 1, 2014 5:10 am

Goodwin = Lance Stephenson / Butler hybrid who plays PG

I hope so anyways... defensive all rounder.

He just needs to be "decent" jump shooter to be a really good impactful player.
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Re: Offseason Thread 7: A Tale Of Two Dragons 

Post#365 » by Revived » Wed Oct 1, 2014 5:17 am

1UPZ wrote:Goodwin = Lance Stephenson / Butler hybrid who plays PG

I hope so anyways... defensive all rounder.

He just needs to be "decent" jump shooter to be a really good impactful player.

Goodwin's never gonna get playing time so even if he turns out to be a Lance Stephenson type guy, it won't be in PHX. I hope he gets traded/signs with a team in the East so I can root for him without feeling guilty :D
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Re: Offseason Thread 7: A Tale Of Two Dragons 

Post#366 » by Zelaznyrules » Wed Oct 1, 2014 5:31 am

SF88 wrote:
1UPZ wrote:Goodwin = Lance Stephenson / Butler hybrid who plays PG

I hope so anyways... defensive all rounder.

He just needs to be "decent" jump shooter to be a really good impactful player.

Goodwin's never gonna get playing time so even if he turns out to be a Lance Stephenson type guy, it won't be in PHX. I hope he gets traded/signs with a team in the East so I can root for him without feeling guilty :D


If Goodwin plays well, he'll get plenty of time.
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Re: Offseason Thread 7: A Tale Of Two Dragons 

Post#367 » by Frank Lee » Wed Oct 1, 2014 5:36 am

Yeah whatever 88... Just let it unfold, but I do think Goodwin will draw interest in any trade talk

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Re: Offseason Thread 7: A Tale Of Two Dragons 

Post#368 » by Superbone » Wed Oct 1, 2014 5:40 am

Fo-Real wrote:Im black.... and THATS SO GROSS!!!!


I'm white and I like it. :D

Color has nothing to do with it.
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Re: Offseason Thread 7: A Tale Of Two Dragons 

Post#369 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Oct 1, 2014 5:50 am

BurningHeart wrote:God, I hope Dragic helps Len blossom into a beast.

Considering Len was playing a lot of his minutes with Ish, LB and Goodwin, he should be able to increase his production playing with some combination of Dragic/Bledsoe/IT.
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Re: Offseason Thread 7: A Tale Of Two Dragons 

Post#370 » by JTrain » Wed Oct 1, 2014 6:05 am

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Re: Offseason Thread 7: A Tale Of Two Dragons 

Post#371 » by JTrain » Wed Oct 1, 2014 6:12 am

76ers over 15.5 wins seems easy.

Also, how bout this?

Bet 50,000 on Cavs to win the East at +105
Bet 50,000 on Bulls to win the East at +280

If the Cavs win, you win 2,500.
If the Bulls win, you win 90,000.
If the Wizards win, you move into the 12' trailer in your uncle-in-law's backyard.
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Re: Offseason Thread 7: A Tale Of Two Dragons 

Post#372 » by Revived » Wed Oct 1, 2014 6:23 am

Dragic rated at #35 on SI top 100 list of 2015.

http://www.si.com/nba/2014/top-100-nba- ... list#10to1

Bledsoe is ranked higher :lol:
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Re: Offseason Thread 7: A Tale Of Two Dragons 

Post#373 » by JTrain » Wed Oct 1, 2014 6:28 am

NBA 2K15 ratings:

Dragic 84
Bledsoe 81
Thomas 80
Plumlee 78
Keef 78
Green 78
PJ 76
Mook 75
Tolliver 73
TJ 72
Ennis 71
Archie 69
Len 67

Randolph 64
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Re: Offseason Thread 7: A Tale Of Two Dragons 

Post#374 » by Fo-Real » Wed Oct 1, 2014 7:14 am

Dude... Archie took a bite of a damn sandwich during his interview..... gave an answer while chewing. As far as Ravin... meaning that she in real life is past thick. That gif showed her like a damn face book photo.... above the waist and dosenot show her like she really is. I like em a little thick, but that chick full body is a fat nasty.... without even a good shape (witch is needed if you are over thick). As a black man... I prefer them with curve not bones but Raven is short fat chick with fat chick boobs.
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Re: Offseason Thread 7: A Tale Of Two Dragons 

Post#375 » by Kerrsed » Wed Oct 1, 2014 7:20 am

Fo-Real wrote:Dude... Archie took a bite of a damn sandwich during his interview..... gave an answer while chewing. As far as Ravin... meaning that she in real life is past thick. That gif showed her like a damn face book photo.... above the waist and dosenot show her like she really is. I like em a little thick, but that chick full body is a fat nasty.... without even a good shape (witch is needed if you are over thick). As a black man... I prefer them with curve not bones but Raven is short fat chick with fat chick boobs.


I guess you havent seen her recently......

This is from 2013.......

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Re: Offseason Thread 7: A Tale Of Two Dragons 

Post#376 » by Fo-Real » Wed Oct 1, 2014 7:30 am

Kerrsed wrote:
Fo-Real wrote:Dude... Archie took a bite of a damn sandwich during his interview..... gave an answer while chewing. As far as Ravin... meaning that she in real life is past thick. That gif showed her like a damn face book photo.... above the waist and dosenot show her like she really is. I like em a little thick, but that chick full body is a fat nasty.... without even a good shape (witch is needed if you are over thick). As a black man... I prefer them with curve not bones but Raven is short fat chick with fat chick boobs.


I guess you havent seen her recently......

This is from 2013.......

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maybe not.... she is crack head skinny compared to what she was!!!
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Re: Offseason Thread 7: A Tale Of Two Dragons 

Post#377 » by Kerrsed » Wed Oct 1, 2014 7:32 am

Fo-Real wrote:maybe not.... she is crack head skinny compared to what she was!!!


She started losing the weight right around the time of that Gif.
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Re: Offseason Thread 7: A Tale Of Two Dragons 

Post#378 » by Zelaznyrules » Wed Oct 1, 2014 7:40 am

SF88 wrote:Dragic rated at #35 on SI top 100 list of 2015.

http://www.si.com/nba/2014/top-100-nba- ... list#10to1

Bledsoe is ranked higher :lol:


Bledsoe should be ranked higher but that list is a joke. DeMarco Cousins is 27th? Maybe 7th, at worst. If he wasn't such a jerk he'd be a strong candidate for MVP. And I think Bledsoe and Dragic will each outplay their ranking on this list by several slots.
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Re: Offseason Thread 7: A Tale Of Two Dragons 

Post#379 » by Saberestar » Wed Oct 1, 2014 10:21 am

JTrain wrote:NBA 2K15 ratings:

Dragic 84
Bledsoe 81
Thomas 80
Plumlee 78
Keef 78
Green 78
PJ 76
Mook 75
Tolliver 73
TJ 72
Ennis 71
Archie 69
Len 67

Randolph 64

Overall, I like their ratings. Probably I would put #83 to Bledsoe and only #75 to Plumlee...but other than that I think the ratings are very fair.
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Re: Offseason Thread 7: A Tale Of Two Dragons 

Post#380 » by phrazbit » Wed Oct 1, 2014 11:01 am

JTrain wrote:76ers over 15.5 wins seems easy.

Also, how bout this?

Bet 50,000 on Cavs to win the East at +105
Bet 50,000 on Bulls to win the East at +280

If the Cavs win, you win 2,500.
If the Bulls win, you win 90,000.
If the Wizards win, you move into the 12' trailer in your uncle-in-law's backyard.


Thats not quite right. The bookie does not keep the wager, the payout includes your wager plus your winnings.

A 50,000 bet at +105 pays out 102,500, of which 52,500 is profit. Bulls bet would payout 190,000, of which 140,000 is profit.

The Wizards bet is close, but I think it would be a double-wide trailer.

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