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Re: Suns Board Fantasy Leagues Discussion Thread 

Post#41 » by Phystic » Tue Oct 7, 2014 2:24 am

Miklo wrote:Just a reminder to commissioners to adjust the waiver order (under Commish Tools) to the reverse order of your draft order. For whatever reason Yahoo doesn't do this automatically for offline drafts, even though it has enough to go off of since you're putting in draft order.


Guess that's one small.... very small perk of being the last pick in CBA pffft
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Post#42 » by wheezy » Tue Oct 7, 2014 2:31 am

Never Fear 33 Is Here wrote:I say go hard. 5 demotions 3 promotions etc. that will make EVERYONE in the Premier League fight for everything. I finished bottom 3 last year and played the most games out of everyone IIRC with others above me not playing nearly enough.

I think you're near the top of my preseason rankings for the D league and a near lock to make the jump back up if a few things go your way (i.e. everyone stays healthy, DRose can get back to even how he played in the lockout season, and Sanders actually remembers he still plays professional basketball).
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Re: Suns Board Fantasy Leagues Discussion Thread 

Post#43 » by aIvin adams » Tue Oct 7, 2014 2:33 am

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Miklo wrote:Just a reminder to commissioners to adjust the waiver order (under Commish Tools) to the reverse order of your draft order. For whatever reason Yahoo doesn't do this automatically for offline drafts, even though it has enough to go off of since you're putting in draft order.


Guess that's one small.... very small perk of being the last pick in CBA pffft


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Post#44 » by b-ball forever » Tue Oct 7, 2014 7:00 am

Miklo wrote:If there are more new people than people leaving, we'll have to figure that out too because we want new people to have a chance to be involved - but that we can revisit later (a FOURTH league???)

Sorry, I can't imagine there ever being a league lower than sumdumfuk :lol:
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Post#45 » by Kerrsed » Tue Oct 7, 2014 7:11 am

b-ball forever wrote:
Miklo wrote:If there are more new people than people leaving, we'll have to figure that out too because we want new people to have a chance to be involved - but that we can revisit later (a FOURTH league???)

Sorry, I can't imagine there ever being a league lower than sumdumfuk :lol:


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Post#46 » by b-ball forever » Tue Oct 7, 2014 7:18 am

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b-ball forever wrote:
Miklo wrote:If there are more new people than people leaving, we'll have to figure that out too because we want new people to have a chance to be involved - but that we can revisit later (a FOURTH league???)

Sorry, I can't imagine there ever being a league lower than sumdumfuk :lol:


The Ethiopian Ebola League?

Projection says they'd be lucky to even get halfway thru the draft!
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Re: Suns Board Fantasy Leagues Discussion Thread 

Post#47 » by Never Fear 33 Is Here » Tue Oct 7, 2014 10:55 am

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Never Fear 33 Is Here wrote:I say go hard. 5 demotions 3 promotions etc. that will make EVERYONE in the Premier League fight for everything. I finished bottom 3 last year and played the most games out of everyone IIRC with others above me not playing nearly enough.

I think you're near the top of my preseason rankings for the D league and a near lock to make the jump back up if a few things go your way (i.e. everyone stays healthy, DRose can get back to even how he played in the lockout season, and Sanders actually remembers he still plays professional basketball).


Cheers, I do appreciate that, however, last season it was said that my team was very good and would go close to winning it, however, not so good. :lol:
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Post#48 » by KPCB34 » Tue Oct 7, 2014 11:31 am

Never Fear 33 Is Here wrote:
wheezy wrote:
Never Fear 33 Is Here wrote:I say go hard. 5 demotions 3 promotions etc. that will make EVERYONE in the Premier League fight for everything. I finished bottom 3 last year and played the most games out of everyone IIRC with others above me not playing nearly enough.

I think you're near the top of my preseason rankings for the D league and a near lock to make the jump back up if a few things go your way (i.e. everyone stays healthy, DRose can get back to even how he played in the lockout season, and Sanders actually remembers he still plays professional basketball).


Cheers, I do appreciate that, however, last season it was said that my team was very good and would go close to winning it, however, not so good. :lol:


I think your team is rather moist



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Post#49 » by bwgood77 » Tue Oct 7, 2014 12:28 pm

Is there a way to add IR spot to leagues? Maybe not as important in 14 team leagues since it would limit FA options even more.

But also this would help teams who have major injuries (especially more than one) be able to retain players without it impacting total number of games played which really could completely take them out of the running to compete unless they drop injured players (which sometimes could be impact players).
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Post#50 » by Miklo » Tue Oct 7, 2014 1:32 pm

bwgood77 wrote:Is there a way to add IR spot to leagues? Maybe not as important in 14 team leagues since it would limit FA options even more.

But also this would help teams who have major injuries (especially more than one) be able to retain players without it impacting total number of games played which really could completely take them out of the running to compete unless they drop injured players (which sometimes could be impact players).


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Post#51 » by MathiasPW » Tue Oct 7, 2014 1:47 pm

So, time to ask noob questions.

How does scoring actually work. I picked all my players based on a few attributes I'd like to do well, but completely ignored some other scoring criteria. I assume I'll do very well on categories 1, 2 and 3, and will suck on categories 4,5 and 6 (strenght-based management). Now, I dont really know how my final score will be made of, but I assume you get some benefits for ranking 1st in some categories and you have diminishing returns for being avg/bad in others?
(i.e 100 pts for being 1st, 60 for being 2nd, 40 for being 3rd, 30 for being 4th and so on).

Second, how does time allocation work? Say player 1 makes 20 pts playing 36 minutes, but I only use him 30 mins, how much does that affect my score?
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Post#52 » by bwgood77 » Tue Oct 7, 2014 3:18 pm

MathiasPW wrote:So, time to ask noob questions.

How does scoring actually work. I picked all my players based on a few attributes I'd like to do well, but completely ignored some other scoring criteria. I assume I'll do very well on categories 1, 2 and 3, and will suck on categories 4,5 and 6 (strenght-based management). Now, I dont really know how my final score will be made of, but I assume you get some benefits for ranking 1st in some categories and you have diminishing returns for being avg/bad in others?
(i.e 100 pts for being 1st, 60 for being 2nd, 40 for being 3rd, 30 for being 4th and so on).

Second, how does time allocation work? Say player 1 makes 20 pts playing 36 minutes, but I only use him 30 mins, how much does that affect my score?


You can't only use a player 30 of 36 minutes in a game. Can't make in game adjustments.

A high usage guy like Durant will have a large impact on your overall FG% because say he goes 14 for 25. If another guy goes 1 for 5, then it won't impact you too badly even though his fg % was bad, because between the guys you are still 15 for 30.

A guy like Harden and Durant who shoot tons of free throws also have a major impact on FT%, whereas a really bad FT shooter will really only impact you negatively if he shoots a ton of FTs like Howard for example. But guys who are mostly defensive bigs that don't score may rarely shoot FTs so their 0-2 line or something has minimal impact.

Other than those cats, it is just a straight up accumulation of stats. If you have a guy in your lineup who's team plays that night, but he ends up sitting out, he doesn't count as a start.

You have 82 starts at each spot. So you need to watch if you are behind or ahead at each spot throughout the season. Last season in the D league I was near the bottom for quite a while during the season due to sticking closely to # of games and not getting too ahead of schedule. Others subbed in a ton, so had accumulated more stats, but with games remaining at the end, their stats stopped. Once I caught up in games played to everyone, I ended up in 3rd place.

If you have REALLY good players that are out for like two weeks, you don't want to get too far ahead in their categories in games played, because it would suck to run out of games at their spots and you miss being able to play a guy like Westbrook the last 7 games of the season or something.
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Re: Suns Board Fantasy Leagues Discussion Thread 

Post#53 » by Phystic » Tue Oct 7, 2014 3:20 pm

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Phystic wrote:
Miklo wrote:Just a reminder to commissioners to adjust the waiver order (under Commish Tools) to the reverse order of your draft order. For whatever reason Yahoo doesn't do this automatically for offline drafts, even though it has enough to go off of since you're putting in draft order.


Guess that's one small.... very small perk of being the last pick in CBA pffft


last pick rocks man


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Post#54 » by Phystic » Tue Oct 7, 2014 3:31 pm

MathiasPW wrote:So, time to ask noob questions.

How does scoring actually work. I picked all my players based on a few attributes I'd like to do well, but completely ignored some other scoring criteria. I assume I'll do very well on categories 1, 2 and 3, and will suck on categories 4,5 and 6 (strenght-based management). Now, I dont really know how my final score will be made of, but I assume you get some benefits for ranking 1st in some categories and you have diminishing returns for being avg/bad in others?
(i.e 100 pts for being 1st, 60 for being 2nd, 40 for being 3rd, 30 for being 4th and so on).

Second, how does time allocation work? Say player 1 makes 20 pts playing 36 minutes, but I only use him 30 mins, how much does that affect my score?



To touch on some things bwgood77 didn't hit.

I've never done more than a 10 team roto league but I think it probably holds true. In a ten team league 1st place got 10 pts and last place got 1 pt. so each rank up or down is 1 pt. At the end of the year whoever has the most points wins.

You get 82 games per position and once you hit those 82 games you can no longer use that position.

And you don't get to dictate how much a player plays for you. It's strictly a play or not play type of situation. It varies depending on league settings but the player will 'lock' once his game is about to start and he is in your lineup for that day. Though if he ends up not playing he won't count against your games played. So if he is suspended, injured, or DNP-CD then he won't impact your games played for that slot.

As for your drafting plan, if you decided to focus on a few categories then you may end up struggling in a Roto league. Roto leagues are all about even production across the board. You want guys that contribute in multiple categories and preferably are high % shooters. Like Bw said, it's all about attempts. Durant taking 10 attempts at 90% is much more impactful than DeAndre Jordan taking 3 attempts at 50%. And the opposite is true. JJ Reddick has an outstanding FT% but he takes like 2 a game so it won't have much benefit. Some people fail to look at # of attempts and just focus on percentages so they take a guy like Drummond or Howard and surround him with a Steve Nash, Ray Allen or JJ Reddick and then wonder why their ft% sucks.

I haven't looked at your team but if you are deficient in multiple categories I would start working trade offers.
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Post#55 » by Stix » Tue Oct 7, 2014 3:48 pm

Just a suggestion for next year. Can we have the results determine next year's draft order? It doesn't seem fair that someone who placed 1st last year has to pick 8th this year. I think it's a bit more fair than having a "random" draft order every year, where the commish can just keep hitting the randomize button until he gets a top 3 pick.
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Post#56 » by bwgood77 » Tue Oct 7, 2014 3:53 pm

Zero Tolerance wrote:Just a suggestion for next year. Can we have the results determine next year's draft order? It doesn't seem fair that someone who placed 1st last year has to pick 8th this year. I think it's a bit more fair than having a "random" draft order every year, where the commish can just keep hitting the randomize button until he gets a top 3 pick.


Does the commish get top 3 picks every year? Where do you think 1st should draft the following year? 1st or last?
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Post#57 » by Kerrsed » Tue Oct 7, 2014 3:55 pm

Zero Tolerance wrote:Just a suggestion for next year. Can we have the results determine next year's draft order? It doesn't seem fair that someone who placed 1st last year has to pick 8th this year. I think it's a bit more fair than having a "random" draft order every year, where the commish can just keep hitting the randomize button until he gets a top 3 pick.


:lol:

For your information, everytime you hit Randomize, it puts a counter directly under the list. You wouldnt know this, as its never been on the list because i have never hit it more than once. KThanks.
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Post#58 » by Miklo » Tue Oct 7, 2014 4:06 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Zero Tolerance wrote:Just a suggestion for next year. Can we have the results determine next year's draft order? It doesn't seem fair that someone who placed 1st last year has to pick 8th this year. I think it's a bit more fair than having a "random" draft order every year, where the commish can just keep hitting the randomize button until he gets a top 3 pick.


Does the commish get top 3 picks every year? Where do you think 1st should draft the following year? 1st or last?


I don't believe I have ever gotten top 3 in my life :cry:
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Post#59 » by Calvin Klein » Tue Oct 7, 2014 5:14 pm

Zero Tolerance wrote:Just a suggestion for next year. Can we have the results determine next year's draft order? It doesn't seem fair that someone who placed 1st last year has to pick 8th this year. I think it's a bit more fair than having a "random" draft order every year, where the commish can just keep hitting the randomize button until he gets a top 3 pick.


Maybe a good option would be someone trusted, that is not part of the league, to take care of the draft order. Like the D League/Chinese League commish taking care of our draft order.
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Post#60 » by Kerrsed » Tue Oct 7, 2014 5:22 pm

Im just wondering when i became untrustworthy and how did this become an issue all of a sudden? Saltyness because people dont like how their draft turned out? :wink:

I mean im open to suggestions, but honestly dont see the need as i play fantasy basketball by the book.

Calvin Klein wrote:Maybe a good option would be someone trusted, that is not part of the league, to take care of the draft order. Like the D League/Chinese League commish taking care of our draft order.


If thats what it takes for people to be happy and not bitch and complain, so be it. Im perfectly fine with that. We will put it up to a vote next season.

Also, i think the idea of whoever gets 1st place gets the 1st pick is lame. The reward for 1st place is a gold medal in Yahoo Sports. The idea of rewarding the top team with Durant doesnt sit well with me. It has always been random and i believe it should always stay random.
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