Acy and the Knicks

Mr_Perfect · Post #161 » by **Mr_Perfect** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:35 am

Acy is quickly becoming my favorite Knick.

Post #162 » by **Capn'O** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:59 am

Mr_Perfect wrote:Acy is quickly becoming my favorite Knick.

In a long time...

keeksageek · Post #163 » by **keeksageek** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 1:04 am

I love his game...but I need to see more consistency in the jumper.

Post #164 » by **K_ick_God** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 1:10 am

Does having two energy/defensive players starting (Shump and Q) alongside Dally give you enough to compensate for Calderon and Melo to where the Knicks could have above-average D? Does it allow you to play Bargs and still have solid D?

It's shaping up to be an interesting question and roster, and perhaps season.

Priggy Smalls · Post #165 » by **Priggy Smalls** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 1:17 am

KnicksGod wrote:Does having two energy/defensive players starting (Shump and Q) alongside Dally give you enough to compensate for Calderon and Melo to where the Knicks could have above-average D? Does it allow you to play Bargs and still have solid D?

It's shaping up to be an interesting question and roster, and perhaps season.

i don't think melo will need to be compensated for with an actual scheme in place defensively. he needs to close out on shots better and stop picking up cheap fouls but aside from that he's fine.

calderon i worry about but we can throw shump on the best perimeter player to mitigate some of that. don't think bargs will be able to fit in, he's just too slow.

there's no reason our starters can't be above average. our bench on the other hand will be a disaster.

Sprewell4Three · Post #166 » by **Sprewell4Three** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 1:22 am

Starting acy is going to be a disaster for the offense though. They're going to sag off him and Dalembert all game. Worried about that.

KNIXFAN_83 · Post #167 » by **KNIXFAN_83** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:24 am

Sprewell4Three wrote:Starting acy is going to be a disaster for the offense though. They're going to sag off him and Dalembert all game. Worried about that.

But remember that's the beauty of the triangle it exposes the weakness in defense with constant ball movement and motion, there's no constant sagging if all 5 defenders are constantly moving.

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LifeLongKNICK · Post #168 » by **LifeLongKNICK** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:24 am

scrublove. every fan base has it. it appears dally and acy are this years knick fan fetish.

Post #169 » by **Thorn** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:26 am

Sprewell4Three wrote:Starting acy is going to be a disaster for the offense though. They're going to sag off him and Dalembert all game. Worried about that.

It is why I personally Favor starting Jason Smith, he defends fairly well, is aggressive, a good hustle guy and can hit the open J.

But i like Acy too and am willing to give him a go if that is what Fish thinks is best for our chemistry.

MetaKnick13 · Post #170 » by **MetaKnick13** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 3:00 am

Thorn wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:Starting acy is going to be a disaster for the offense though. They're going to sag off him and Dalembert all game. Worried about that.

It is why I personally Favor starting Jason Smith, he defends fairly well, is aggressive, a good hustle guy and can hit the open J.

But i like Acy too and am willing to give him a go if that is what Fish thinks is best for our chemistry.

Yeah I'm somewhat partial to this idea as well, but I think Smith is also a really solid option to be the first big man off the bench. It will definitely be interesting to see how things play out. I just hope Fisher doesn't give in to playing Stat/Bargs excessive minutes just because of their names/salaries.

Post #171 » by **Thorn** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 3:07 am

MetaKnick13 wrote:
Thorn wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:Starting acy is going to be a disaster for the offense though. They're going to sag off him and Dalembert all game. Worried about that.

It is why I personally Favor starting Jason Smith, he defends fairly well, is aggressive, a good hustle guy and can hit the open J.

But i like Acy too and am willing to give him a go if that is what Fish thinks is best for our chemistry.

Yeah I'm somewhat partial to this idea as well, but I think Smith is also a really solid option to be the first big man off the bench. It will definitely be interesting to see how things play out. I just hope Fisher doesn't give in to playing Stat/Bargs excessive minutes just because of their names/salaries.

Totally with you on that one.

No more star F@$&^#*.

malik959 · Post #172 » by **malik959** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:31 pm

Priggy Smalls wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:Does having two energy/defensive players starting (Shump and Q) alongside Dally give you enough to compensate for Calderon and Melo to where the Knicks could have above-average D? Does it allow you to play Bargs and still have solid D?

It's shaping up to be an interesting question and roster, and perhaps season.

i don't think melo will need to be compensated for with an actual scheme in place defensively. he needs to close out on shots better and stop picking up cheap fouls but aside from that he's fine.

calderon i worry about but we can throw shump on the best perimeter player to mitigate some of that. don't think bargs will be able to fit in, he's just too slow.

there's no reason our starters can't be above average. our bench on the other hand will be a disaster.[/quote

This would actually be our best defensive line up, let's not forget that Melo is no pushover. Our only weakness would be Calderon in this line up in which I can deal with sense Shump can guard the better guards.]

Mike Breen · Post #173 » by **Mike Breen** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:37 pm

I like what I've seen from him so far, but I think we need to temper our expectations of this guy like a lot. His career defensive stats, including last year, are really really bad actually. I'll reserve judgement for when he plays a reg season game, but I'm actually gonna keep my expectations low.

Stoosh · Post #174 » by **Stoosh** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:05 pm

He's still young so he has the "potential" tag on his side. The goal this year is not to win a championship. Playoffs would be nice but I think Coach Fisher is focused on training and development , establishing a new culture and hopefully find good value future role players until next season.

Meat · Post #175 » by **Meat** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 4:16 pm

Thorn wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:Starting acy is going to be a disaster for the offense though. They're going to sag off him and Dalembert all game. Worried about that.

It is why I personally Favor starting Jason Smith, he defends fairly well, is aggressive, a good hustle guy and can hit the open J.

But i like Acy too and am willing to give him a go if that is what Fish thinks is best for our chemistry.

i'm a bigger jason smith fan too, i still think he's a better defender than acy and loads better offensively. his per 36 for the last few years are pretty impressive.

GardenFaith · Post #176 » by **GardenFaith** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:14 pm

I love Acy's energy but if one this this preseason has proven its that we cant score straight out the gate and this has being against preseason scrubs mainly.

Starting Jason Smith at PF makes more sense to me giving us not only a jumpshooter perfect to get the triangle going but also a big body on the boards.

That being said ive being a fan of Acy since the trade re watching Kings games from last season and said straight off the bat he would be a fan favorite which he has shown he can be the energy player to come off the bench kind of what we used to get from the JYD.

GYK · Post #177 » by **GYK** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:30 pm

it seems as Acy and Jason Smith are both in the fight for the starting power forward spot.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks ... 6flM%22%7D

GardenFaith · Post #178 » by **GardenFaith** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:35 pm

I also think Cole Aldrich should see some more minutes at center too, play Jason at the starting 4 and play Cole more...

Post #179 » by **K_ick_God** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:59 pm

Not a great sign that JR is getting praise from Fisher. I don't think he should even play.

Post #180 » by **Thugger HBC** » Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:17 pm

KnicksGod wrote:Not a great sign that JR is getting praise from Fisher. I don't think he should even play.

Yeah, I read that piece as well. Most of his praise seems to be in film sessions and such, no so much on the court.

I think Fisher is smart enough to know when a player is helping or hurting the team, and I think he will adjust accordingly.