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Towns or Okafor or Mudiay or Russel?

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Who do you go with?

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Mudiay
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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#81 » by Dbloc123 » Fri Dec 5, 2014 7:18 pm

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moocow007 wrote:If Guangdong cuts Mudiay (ankle injury may have resulted in his agent thinking getting Mudiay out of the CBA, which likely is the reason Guangdong just threw $1 million at Will Bynum) he could sign on to play with an D-League team. Let's hope Alan Houston has his agent's number on speed dial. What better way to get a look at him as a potential top pick than up front and personal 30 minutes away from MSG in Westchester.


If that happens can we cut someone and bring him up like baseball or does he Have to participate in the draft?


He would not be NBA eligible because of his age and the when he graduated. D-League age limit is 18 which is why he should be able to sign up with a D-League team (don't believe the D-League has the 1 year removed from HS restriction). NBA age limit is 19 and 1 year after his HS graduating class. Mudiay is 18 and his HS class just graduated. He would have to wait until at least 19 or after the following years HS class graduates to be eligible for the NBA, whichever is later.


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Post#82 » by nykfan42 » Fri Dec 5, 2014 7:26 pm

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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#83 » by 2010 » Fri Dec 5, 2014 7:29 pm

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw27QDi4rvc[/youtube]

Mudiay vs. Marbury
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ1GAWao4ZU[/youtube]

Mudiay injury
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDvPEUvGwFg[/youtube]

For the people who haven't seen Mudiay. Reminds me of Marbury, just bigger.
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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#84 » by NoLayupRule » Fri Dec 5, 2014 7:37 pm

2010 wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw27QDi4rvc[/youtube]

For the people who haven't seen Mudiay. Reminds me of Marbury, just bigger.

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from what I can see there China has not imported any defense yet

yuck!

they should call that the Amare league



also I don't think anyone here wants you to compare an exciting draft prospect to Marbury

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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#85 » by mpharris36 » Fri Dec 5, 2014 7:41 pm

2010 wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw27QDi4rvc[/youtube]

Mudiay vs. Marbury
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ1GAWao4ZU[/youtube]

Mudiay injury
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDvPEUvGwFg[/youtube]

For the people who haven't seen Mudiay. Reminds me of Marbury, just bigger.


that's a solid comparison. I thought some were calling him rose or wall. But I don't see that type of quickness from him. No knock on him because he looks like a really good player. But I didn't see that explosive first step that Rose, Wall, Westbrook have. He doesn't seem to be that type of athlete but he looks really talented!
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Post#86 » by Deeeez Knicks » Fri Dec 5, 2014 7:42 pm

Muddiay is hard to gauge cause I just don’t know what to think about the competition he is going up against. No question he is gifted though.
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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#87 » by 2010 » Fri Dec 5, 2014 7:42 pm

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2010 wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw27QDi4rvc[/youtube]

For the people who haven't seen Mudiay. Reminds me of Marbury, just bigger.

dear lord

from what I can see there China has not imported any defense yet

yuck!

they should call that the Amare league



also I don't think anyone here wants you to compare an exciting draft prospect to Marbury

it still hurts


Marbury was a great talent and he still is a good player, even today. No one can take that away. He's out of the league due to reasons beyond what he can do on the court.

And for what it's worth, this season's team is off to a worse start than any of the teams during the Marbury, Curry, Crawford years.
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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#88 » by DE FENSE » Fri Dec 5, 2014 7:42 pm

The question is who is most ready to contribute right away? I know absolutely nothing about these guys.
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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#89 » by 2010 » Fri Dec 5, 2014 7:48 pm

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2010 wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw27QDi4rvc[/youtube]

Mudiay vs. Marbury
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ1GAWao4ZU[/youtube]

Mudiay injury
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDvPEUvGwFg[/youtube]

For the people who haven't seen Mudiay. Reminds me of Marbury, just bigger.


that's a solid comparison. I thought some were calling him rose or wall. But I don't see that type of quickness from him. No knock on him because he looks like a really good player. But I didn't see that explosive first step that Rose, Wall, Westbrook have. He doesn't seem to be that type of athlete but he looks really talented!


He's more of a power lead guard than those other two guys (Rose/Wall). Not as fast or quick but he's still pretty shifty and gets wherever he wants to go on the court. Still great in the open court too. He reminds me of Marbury because he really knows how to use his body, as he shields his defender on his forays into the paint.

Would you take him over either of the two bigs?
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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#90 » by mpharris36 » Fri Dec 5, 2014 8:08 pm

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He's more of a power lead guard than those other two guys (Rose/Wall). Not as fast or quick but he's still pretty shifty and gets wherever he wants to go on the court. Still great in the open court too. He reminds me of Marbury because he really knows how to use his body, as he shields his defender on his forays into the paint.

Would you take him over either of the two bigs?


Not Towns for sure. I just really like the kids game. You can make an argument over Okafor, but probably not.

I think getting a polished big would do more because I think there are more guards that we can plug and play rather than him. I would also be concerned about his ability to adapt to the triangle as a young guard who has normally played a lot of P&R basketball. He might not transition as well and he isn't the smartest guy (not eligible for college due to academics).

I think I would pick both bigs over him.
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Re: Towns or Okafor? 

Post#91 » by TheBigBoss » Fri Dec 5, 2014 8:21 pm

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TheBigBoss wrote:I wish there was a way that we could get both Okafor and Towns. It seems like they would be the perfect compliment to each other. Hell, the more I think about it, they could become what Tyson Chandler and Eddy Curry should have became on the Bulls.


It's hard to develop two young bigs at the same time. Is there any team that has been successful with that model? Cuz the "Baby Bulls" of Curry/Chandler was a failed experiment. I don't think Phil or Melo would have the patience to develop two bigs. I like the idea of one rookie big and one vet big via free agency.


True, although both of these guys seems further along in their development than Curry/Tyson were. Not worth talking about anyway since there is no chance of us getting both.
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Post#92 » by noobcake » Fri Dec 5, 2014 8:42 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:Muddiay is hard to gauge cause I just don’t know what to think about the competition he is going up against. No question he is gifted though.


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Post#93 » by emo » Fri Dec 5, 2014 9:16 pm

2010 wrote:And for what it's worth, this season's team is off to a worse start than any of the teams during the Marbury, Curry, Crawford years.


I wasn't aware of this until you brought this up.

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Post#94 » by yaboynyp » Fri Dec 5, 2014 9:27 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:I haven't seen Okafor play but what I've seen in highlights and scout films shows that he has a great handle, solid passing, impressive athleticism and great size


could anyone give a scouting report / player comparison?

Is he comparable to Anthony Davis?



Okafor is more of a back to the basket big. He has great footwork, can score over each shoulder. Has long arms and great hands to get bounds out of area. He has good athleticism and can play ferocious at times but also like a lot of young players can not be as aggressive as he should be. He has Nba level athleticism and can dunk on you but more bull than a finesse guy.

Towns is either 7ft or dam close. He’s not an NBA plus athlete but he can do it all. Shoots it well from the outside can post inside and also in the midrange. More of like a Dirk Nowitzki type. More of a Finesse guy but has shown the ability/desire to play physical. Still though as most young players he can improve in that area.

Towns has more skills for sure might be better long term. Okafor is more of a sure thing though as you know exactly what he is. A dominate low post scorer. Towns could be the next Nowitzki or a better Barniangni really depends on how he’s developed
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Post#95 » by E-Balla » Fri Dec 5, 2014 9:35 pm

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TheBigBoss wrote:I wish there was a way that we could get both Okafor and Towns. It seems like they would be the perfect compliment to each other. Hell, the more I think about it, they could become what Tyson Chandler and Eddy Curry should have became on the Bulls.


It's hard to develop two young bigs at the same time. Is there any team that has been successful with that model? Cuz the "Baby Bulls" of Curry/Chandler was a failed experiment. I don't think Phil or Melo would have the patience to develop two bigs. I like the idea of one rookie big and one vet big via free agency.


True, although both of these guys seems further along in their development than Curry/Tyson were. Not worth talking about anyway since there is no chance of us getting both.

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Post#96 » by JBreezeNY » Fri Dec 5, 2014 9:48 pm

Why do people keep saying Okafor has good athleticism?

His athleticism is Cousins bad, Towns is better athletically than him.
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Post#97 » by NoLayupRule » Fri Dec 5, 2014 9:51 pm

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NoLayupRule wrote:I haven't seen Okafor play but what I've seen in highlights and scout films shows that he has a great handle, solid passing, impressive athleticism and great size


could anyone give a scouting report / player comparison?

Is he comparable to Anthony Davis?



Okafor is more of a back to the basket big. He has great footwork, can score over each shoulder. Has long arms and great hands to get bounds out of area. He has good athleticism and can play ferocious at times but also like a lot of young players can not be as aggressive as he should be. He has Nba level athleticism and can dunk on you but more bull than a finesse guy.

Towns is either 7ft or dam close. He’s not an NBA plus athlete but he can do it all. Shoots it well from the outside can post inside and also in the midrange. More of like a Dirk Nowitzki type. More of a Finesse guy but has shown the ability/desire to play physical. Still though as most young players he can improve in that area.

Towns has more skills for sure might be better long term. Okafor is more of a sure thing though as you know exactly what he is. A dominate low post scorer. Towns could be the next Nowitzki or a better Barniangni really depends on how he’s developed
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Post#98 » by Meat » Fri Dec 5, 2014 10:19 pm

yaboynyp wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:I haven't seen Okafor play but what I've seen in highlights and scout films shows that he has a great handle, solid passing, impressive athleticism and great size


could anyone give a scouting report / player comparison?

Is he comparable to Anthony Davis?



Okafor is more of a back to the basket big. He has great footwork, can score over each shoulder. Has long arms and great hands to get bounds out of area. He has good athleticism and can play ferocious at times but also like a lot of young players can not be as aggressive as he should be. He has Nba level athleticism and can dunk on you but more bull than a finesse guy.

Towns is either 7ft or dam close. He’s not an NBA plus athlete but he can do it all. Shoots it well from the outside can post inside and also in the midrange. More of like a Dirk Nowitzki type. More of a Finesse guy but has shown the ability/desire to play physical. Still though as most young players he can improve in that area.

Towns has more skills for sure might be better long term. Okafor is more of a sure thing though as you know exactly what he is. A dominate low post scorer. Towns could be the next Nowitzki or a better Barniangni really depends on how he’s developed
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Post#99 » by 2010 » Fri Dec 5, 2014 10:26 pm

yaboynyp wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:I haven't seen Okafor play but what I've seen in highlights and scout films shows that he has a great handle, solid passing, impressive athleticism and great size


could anyone give a scouting report / player comparison?

Is he comparable to Anthony Davis?



Okafor is more of a back to the basket big. He has great footwork, can score over each shoulder. Has long arms and great hands to get bounds out of area. He has good athleticism and can play ferocious at times but also like a lot of young players can not be as aggressive as he should be. He has Nba level athleticism and can dunk on you but more bull than a finesse guy.

Towns is either 7ft or dam close. He’s not an NBA plus athlete but he can do it all. Shoots it well from the outside can post inside and also in the midrange. More of like a Dirk Nowitzki type. More of a Finesse guy but has shown the ability/desire to play physical. Still though as most young players he can improve in that area.

Towns has more skills for sure might be better long term. Okafor is more of a sure thing though as you know exactly what he is. A dominate low post scorer. Towns could be the next Nowitzki or a better Barniangni really depends on how he’s developed


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Post#100 » by nykballa2k4 » Sat Dec 6, 2014 12:27 am

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:I know what you mean about Okafor. You never like to see question marks around a bigs defense, mobility and rebounding. Just doesnt seem like he has the motor on that end....he def needs some work on defense.

I havent seen Towns yet...The game tonight should be good. Turner sounds like a good prospect too and someone we may consider if we fall back in the draft. I definetly want to check that game out


He has had some weight issues in the past that concern me as well. Again there is no doubting his offensive ability and the people comparing him to Eddy Curry are wrong. Eddy Curry was just big and strong and had a baby hook.

Okafor has some of the best footwork and post moves I have seen out of a college big in a while. One of the most polished offensive products. However the question is does he have the motor to be a great rebounder/defender and I am not sure that is something you can teach.

I just love Towns athletic ability and I see a little Anthony Davis in Towns game. And if he is just half what Davis is we have a really really good all around player on our hands.

I stayed up till 1 am watching Davis play last night and I think he impacts the game more than LeBron at this point. Having a 2-way big like that can change a franchise. I know Towns and he isn't seeing major minutes due to Kentucky depth but his per 40 is out of control and he just has a lot of skills that I like.


Find me a better comparison than Curry. Ok, so Okafor is more polished in the footwork department. Comparisons are not meant to be EXACT. They're not clones made in a mad scientist's lab. Physical strengths/weaknesses that's as close a comparison as you're gonna get. I guess you're one of the ones who since he has footwork says "he's the next Tim Duncan" ...nevermind the fact that he only plays on one side of the floor. Like I said, find me a better comparison. Curry is as close as you're gonna get.


My first thought was Eddy Curry, but he has so many other skills that I actually liken him to a bit taller Chris Webber.
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