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Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing (Part 2)

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IS IT TIME TO FIRE ERNIE GRUNFELD?

1) Yes, I believe it is time for EG to go now.
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2) Ted should let him go at the end of the season.
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3) No, Ted needs to give him more time..(DESPITE THE FACT ERNIE HAS BEEN GM SINCE 2003 AND WASHINGTON HAS THE THIRD WORST RECORD IN THE LEAGUE IN THAT SPAN)
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing (Part 2) 

Post#1101 » by milellie111 » Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:30 pm

For the crow eaters:


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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing (Part 2) 

Post#1102 » by closg00 » Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:32 pm

I will continue to enjoy the hell out of this season and ride it all the way.
At the end of the day would you settle for Ernie's "trades" when you also know that he makes the decisions on draft night? So-far his good has not erased all of the doubts just yet.


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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing (Part 2) 

Post#1103 » by TGW » Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:17 pm

Grunfailed's "great" managing career.

Despite being on the job for 16 years, the mastermind only has 1 division title on his resume. Pathetic....there are GMs above him on that list who've been doing the exact same job for 1/4th of the time and have accomplished more.

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Before this season, here's how BSPN rated the mastermind:

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http://www.complex.com/sports/2014/03/r ... e-grunfeld

22. Ernie Grunfeld
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing (Part 2) 

Post#1104 » by LyricalRico » Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:36 pm

TGW wrote:Despite being on the job for 16 years, the mastermind only has 1 division title on his resume.


According to the chart, that's still one more than your boy Morey!

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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing (Part 2) 

Post#1105 » by Brenice » Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:45 pm

TGW wrote:
Brenice wrote:Ernie ain't going nowhere any time soon. So far 44 people are learning how crow tastes.


I ain't eating sh8t. I still want that con-man out of here.

374-535 win loss record as Wizards GM, but you think he deserves a medal. GTFOH :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


You so mad its ugly.

What is his record under Ted?

And does he deserve a medal? Executive of the Year might be appropriate. We'll see.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing (Part 2) 

Post#1106 » by montestewart » Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:48 pm

LyricalRico wrote:
TGW wrote:Despite being on the job for 16 years, the mastermind only has 1 division title on his resume.


According to the chart, that's still one more than your boy Morey!

Game. Set. Match :D

More than the Zen Master too. EG must be a Taoist.
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Post#1107 » by Dat2U » Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:10 pm

Brenice wrote:Ernie ain't going nowhere any time soon. So far 44 people are learning how crow tastes.


F*** that S**** I ain't eating S***. All these years of incompetence, all the blown assets and I'm expected to forget? B***S****!

If anything the folks that have dogged Wall, questioned his work ethic, bitched & whined that he should be traded, that he is what he is and won't get any better....those are the real ones that should taste some crow.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing (Part 2) 

Post#1108 » by dckingsfan » Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:18 pm

This thread will be fun to revisit in 5 years. Because we won't know either way until then.

It will be at least that long until he can repair his horrible reputation.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing (Part 2) 

Post#1109 » by TGW » Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:45 pm

LyricalRico wrote:
TGW wrote:Despite being on the job for 16 years, the mastermind only has 1 division title on his resume.


According to the chart, that's still one more than your boy Morey!

Game. Set. Match :D


Who said I was a fan of Morey? He hasn't accomplished anything. With that being said, he's light years ahead of Grunfail.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing (Part 2) 

Post#1110 » by DCZards » Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:46 pm

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doclinkin wrote:I think for even the diehard detractors the bar for GMEG to clear would be if we won a championship. Which is as it should be -- no fan should be satisfied with less than that, otherwise what are we competing for?


WINNING the championship is the only way we can clear EG

Just getting to the ECF or the NBA Finals won't do it. He got the Bucks and Knicks there.


If the Zards were to make the NBA finals this season, you and every other Zard's fan would be ecstatic and pretty much ready to kiss EG's, Witt's, Ted's, Wall's, Beal's and the entire team's a**...and you know it. So stop being silly and creating an inflated standard of success simply because you hate EG.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing (Part 2) 

Post#1111 » by TGW » Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:49 pm

Brenice wrote:What is his record under Ted?


133-202. A whopping 39% winning percentage.

And does he deserve a medal? Executive of the Year might be appropriate. We'll see.


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Post#1112 » by TGW » Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:51 pm

Dat2U wrote:
Brenice wrote:Ernie ain't going nowhere any time soon. So far 44 people are learning how crow tastes.


F*** that S**** I ain't eating S***. All these years of incompetence, all the blown assets and I'm expected to forget? B***S****!

If anything the folks that have dogged Wall, questioned his work ethic, bitched & whined that he should be traded, that he is what he is and won't get any better....those are the real ones that should taste some crow.


Exactly. Grunfeld isn't the person that turned this franchise around. John Wall is the person that turned this franchise around. Without him, this roster is old and underwhelming. And I sure as hell am not going to kiss Grunfail's ass for making that pick on draft night.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing (Part 2) 

Post#1113 » by Brenice » Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:55 pm

Dat2U wrote:
Brenice wrote:Ernie ain't going nowhere any time soon. So far 44 people are learning how crow tastes.


F*** that S**** I ain't eating S***. All these years of incompetence, all the blown assets and I'm expected to forget? B***S****!

If anything the folks that have dogged Wall, questioned his work ethic, bitched & whined that he should be traded, that he is what he is and won't get any better....those are the real ones that should taste some crow.


Hilarious. Best team in over 30 years and some Wizards fans are miserable about it. Let's go back and hire Unseld as GM. Let's market LeBron or Anthony Davis as reasons to watch the Wizards. I sure do miss the good ole days of Charles Jones starting at center or Manute and Muggsy. Those were the good ole days.
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Post#1114 » by colts18 » Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:15 pm

dckingsfan wrote:Seasons: 15
Playoffs: 7
Division Titles: 1
Conference Titles: 0
NBA Titles: 0

Number of seasons with more than 45 wins: 0
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing (Part 2) 

Post#1115 » by DCZards » Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:28 pm

TGW wrote:
Dat2U wrote:
Brenice wrote:Ernie ain't going nowhere any time soon. So far 44 people are learning how crow tastes.


F*** that S**** I ain't eating S***. All these years of incompetence, all the blown assets and I'm expected to forget? B***S****!

If anything the folks that have dogged Wall, questioned his work ethic, bitched & whined that he should be traded, that he is what he is and won't get any better....those are the real ones that should taste some crow.


Exactly. Grunfeld isn't the person that turned this franchise around. John Wall is the person that turned this franchise around. Without him, this roster is old and underwhelming. And I sure as hell am not going to kiss Grunfail's ass for making that pick on draft night.


So there's a new and different twist -- John Wall is basically a one-man team and would have turned the Zards into a winning franchise regardless of the players he was surrounded by. Really?
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing (Part 2) 

Post#1116 » by TGW » Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:39 pm

DCZards wrote:
TGW wrote:
Dat2U wrote:
F*** that S**** I ain't eating S***. All these years of incompetence, all the blown assets and I'm expected to forget? B***S****!

If anything the folks that have dogged Wall, questioned his work ethic, bitched & whined that he should be traded, that he is what he is and won't get any better....those are the real ones that should taste some crow.


Exactly. Grunfeld isn't the person that turned this franchise around. John Wall is the person that turned this franchise around. Without him, this roster is old and underwhelming. And I sure as hell am not going to kiss Grunfail's ass for making that pick on draft night.


So there's a new and different twist -- John Wall is basically a one-man team and would have turned the Zards into a winning franchise regardless of the players he was surrounded by. Really?


Uh pretty much. Wall is that good...all he needed was semi-competent talent surrounding him for this team to succeed. Same thing applies for most franchise players. I mean honestly Zards...is anyone else on this team even remotely all-star worthy except for Wall? Beal is improving, but he's not there yet. Everyone else on the team are journeymen.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing (Part 2) 

Post#1117 » by Brenice » Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:48 pm

So how many franchise players have Ernie passed on?
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing (Part 2) 

Post#1118 » by TGW » Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:49 pm

Brenice wrote:So how many franchise players have Ernie passed on?


Was this supposed to be in the green font?
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing (Part 2) 

Post#1119 » by hands11 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:10 am

DCZards wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:
doclinkin wrote:I think for even the diehard detractors the bar for GMEG to clear would be if we won a championship. Which is as it should be -- no fan should be satisfied with less than that, otherwise what are we competing for?


WINNING the championship is the only way we can clear EG

Just getting to the ECF or the NBA Finals won't do it. He got the Bucks and Knicks there.


If the Zards were to make the NBA finals this season, you and every other Zard's fan would be ecstatic and pretty much ready to kiss EG's, Witt's, Ted's, Wall's, Beal's and the entire team's a**...and you know it. So stop being silly and creating an inflated standard of success simply because you hate EG.


Oh man, So predictable.

That is pretty much word for word where I said they would go next. :lol:

Cornered by the teams success and all they can do it quadruple down on being wrong which they have been for the entire rebuild.

Well, that says it all... as if we didn't already know what they are about.

Milli nailed them a while ago. Not really fans. They are here to try to get a rise out of people or drag people down into their misery or both.

Asking to stop the silly and creating an inflated standard ? Yeah, good luck with that.
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Re: Countdown to Ernie Grunfeld Firing (Part 2) 

Post#1120 » by Brenice » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:11 am

TGW wrote:
Brenice wrote:So how many franchise players have Ernie passed on?


Was this supposed to be in the green font?


Ernie passed on LeBron, Durant, Anthony Davis, Rose, Wade, CP3, Jordan, Shaq, Kobe, Hakeem, Duncan, ...the list of franchise players Ernie passed over gets longer each draft. Russel, Bird, Magic, Wilt....damn you Ernie

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