R-DAWG wrote:KnicksGod wrote:Sprewell4Three wrote:
I don't know why you like to play the coulda shoulda woulda game to prove a point. What makes you think Tyson would have stayed healthy after being injury prone all of last year?
And he's likely wrong. Someone is probably eating AV's contract in this situation and that's a bad deal -- dude is less healthy than Grant Hill in his prime.
I know he talks about doing all this other stuff to get him without AV but it's a stretch. It'd have required AV now in all likelihood OR you'd have to convince the Cavs that Tyson was better than AV before they gave him the big extension. Which is a long shot. Tyson was atrocious last season. And clearly the Cavs wanted to invest in AV so they like him/want him.
why would it require AV? They had the expiring deals to do it without him.
I was wrong about that but I've addressed it. Bogans and Thompson/Haywood for Tyson only makes sense now. Not then. Playing Tyson by AV, about to give AV a $10M extension, would have not flown then.
You're applying 20-20 hindsight and then it all fits together. I don't know what else to tell you if you can't see that.
Tyson is not a long-term solution and he's expensive, so why squander their assets on him? Because they knew AV would get hurt again? That makes sense -- I'm sure they knew AV would go down again, because that's why they gave him $30M to please LeBron or themselves or whatever. They want Mozgov because he's young and affordable and can actually block shots and maybe score.
Tyson is a fine emergency solution now but that doesn't apply back then.
Anywho, if people are not going to admit to their clear MMQB, 20-20 hindsight, I'm going to have to break out the movie references and just refer to this as what it is -- a sequel of John Connor's dad going back in time to warn the Cavs that they have to avoid AV's contract and/or use their assets on a center who performed badly, is skinny and basically crappy and old ... 3 months before they knew they might ever need his playing-for-contract malnourished rearend. And 3 months before they could see their D sucks and they are basically a mediocre team.
Oh and never mind that Tyson's greatest strength, rebounding, is entirely covered by Love. He's probably the one guy who could make Tyson's phony rebound numbers disappear because his girth beats Tyson's length. Pause.
We need some T-1 and T-2 avatars for the Knicks board naysayers.
Arnold is R-DAWG and John Connor is Gilbert. "You must take Tyson Chandler now. Negative, he will be better this year playing for money and Anderson Varejao will get hurt again even though he brings a lot of the same useless big man qualities to your team. Do it. Now. Trade your best assets for him even though he cannot score. Come with me if you want to win. You will suck. You will lose LeBron again. The machines become self-aware and strike against man." (Arnold voice of course)
Corny but good.