Trade Ideas Thread

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1761 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:52 pm

Ryan Anderson is the guy that fits SAC, btw.. And NOP could use a cheap young prospect- another Sacramento cast-off like Fredette?

Higgs Boston · Post #1762 » by **Higgs Boston** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:05 pm

andy582 wrote:Ryan Anderson is the guy that fits SAC, btw.. And NOP could use a cheap young prospect- another Sacramento cast-off like Fredette?

I think Ryno isn't a good fit in sacramento. Cousins (franchise player) needs a PF with good and regular defense. Ryno is a good fit for a SF like rudy gay because he has good defensive level and needs space to basket, but the most crucial fit is with the most important player.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1763 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:22 pm

Well, the rumor is that they want a 'stretch 4' or an 'above the rim defensive player' - hard to find both. And Cousins is already commanding so much defensive attention, Anderson's not really going to stretch the floor, he's going to get kick-outs once the defense has collapsed. Plus, they fired their defense-first coach and want to play uptempo.

Ed Pinkney · Post #1764 » by **Ed Pinkney** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:58 pm

Bass for Stauskas? Might not fit what the Kings are looking for.

Olynyk for Stauskas? Is OIynyk too much to give up for Stauskas on his own? Is it too early to give up on Olynyk (probably). Olynyk and two second rounders for Stauskas and a first rounder?

bucknersrevenge · Post #1765 » by **bucknersrevenge** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:06 am

Ed Pinkney wrote:Bass for Stauskas? Might not fit what the Kings are looking for.

Olynyk for Stauskas? Is OIynyk too much to give up for Stauskas on his own? Is it too early to give up on Olynyk (probably). Olynyk and two second rounders for Stauskas and a first rounder?

Why not Bass? He's not a 3-point shooter but he can consistently his from 20. And he plays defense and is a solid veteran for a team trying to make a move. Meanwhile, I'd love to get Stauskas and see if there's anything there.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1766 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:11 am

Ed Pinkney wrote:Bass for Stauskas? Might not fit what the Kings are looking for.

Olynyk for Stauskas? Is OIynyk too much to give up for Stauskas on his own? Is it too early to give up on Olynyk (probably). Olynyk and two second rounders for Stauskas and a first rounder?

Don't trade a big like Olynyk who's shown something for a 2 guard who projects as a starter at best.

15th overall · Post #1767 » by **15th overall** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:23 am

I would think you'd have to at least package some kind of pick(s) w/ Bass to pry Stauskas from them. And I'd be cool with that, within reason.

GreenMachine · Post #1768 » by **GreenMachine** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:50 am

Can anyone here give an updated scouting report on Stauskas? I know what he was in College... but are his struggles in the NBA due solely to not getting enough minutes/needs time to develop... or is he going to be like Fredette where his skills simply don't translate?

Regardless, I wouldn't give up KO. Big for unproven small = too much risk. I would be happy to do Bass, but they aren't looking for a rental... I also doubt Bass/picks interests them. They are in a hurry (which is always a mistake) to start winning. They want proven players not picks.

Patsfan1081 · Post #1769 » by **Patsfan1081** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:56 am

underneathtoDJ wrote:Say we finish outside of the top 4 in the draft. Could we trade the pick in a S&T for a restricted free agent, such as Reggie Jackson or Kawhi Leonard and fit them in with the Rondo TPE? Structure the deal's 1st year to fit into the TPE and then have higher salaries in following years? Is it even worth it or is that pick still too valuable in say, the 5-8 range?

We would be looking at either:

Smart/Bradley/Leonard/Sully/Zeller - with Turner, Young, Crowder, KO on the bench and the Clips pick. If the Spurs don't want to pay Leonard max money, would they be interested in the cap space and top 10 pick? Add another C and I'm starting to like that team.
or
Jackson/Smart/Crowder/Sully/Zeller -team could look to move Bradley or have a very athletic 3 guard unit. For OKC, they save money and clear up the PG situation while adding a cost controlled top 10 pick.

Danny would still have all of the future picks in following years to add to these teams. Thoughts?

Ok fans strongly dislike Jackson, and a lot of people say he's over-rated, keep the pick and draft D. Russell out of Ohio st. And use the cash to sign Wesley Mathews.

Patsfan1081 · Post #1770 » by **Patsfan1081** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:58 am

GreenMachine wrote:Can anyone here give an updated scouting report on Stauskas? I know what he was in College... but are his struggles in the NBA due solely to not getting enough minutes/needs time to develop... or is he going to be like Fredette where his skills simply don't translate?

Regardless, I wouldn't give up KO. Big for unproven small = too much risk. I would be happy to do Bass, but they aren't looking for a rental... I also doubt Bass/picks interests them. They are in a hurry (which is always a mistake) to start winning. They want proven players not picks.

He hasn't played enough to know if he can make his own shot or not.

GreenMachine · Post #1771 » by **GreenMachine** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:03 am

Patsfan1081 wrote:
GreenMachine wrote:Can anyone here give an updated scouting report on Stauskas? I know what he was in College... but are his struggles in the NBA due solely to not getting enough minutes/needs time to develop... or is he going to be like Fredette where his skills simply don't translate?

Regardless, I wouldn't give up KO. Big for unproven small = too much risk. I would be happy to do Bass, but they aren't looking for a rental... I also doubt Bass/picks interests them. They are in a hurry (which is always a mistake) to start winning. They want proven players not picks.

He hasn't played enough to know if he can make his own shot or not.

Well then I certainly don't want to give up Kelly for him. Nor Bass and any of the good picks. Maybe Bass and one of the crappy picks... but doubt they do that... so probably not a match.

GreenMachine · Post #1772 » by **GreenMachine** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:05 am

Patsfan1081 wrote:
underneathtoDJ wrote:Say we finish outside of the top 4 in the draft. Could we trade the pick in a S&T for a restricted free agent, such as Reggie Jackson or Kawhi Leonard and fit them in with the Rondo TPE? Structure the deal's 1st year to fit into the TPE and then have higher salaries in following years? Is it even worth it or is that pick still too valuable in say, the 5-8 range?

We would be looking at either:

Smart/Bradley/Leonard/Sully/Zeller - with Turner, Young, Crowder, KO on the bench and the Clips pick. If the Spurs don't want to pay Leonard max money, would they be interested in the cap space and top 10 pick? Add another C and I'm starting to like that team.
or
Jackson/Smart/Crowder/Sully/Zeller -team could look to move Bradley or have a very athletic 3 guard unit. For OKC, they save money and clear up the PG situation while adding a cost controlled top 10 pick.

Danny would still have all of the future picks in following years to add to these teams. Thoughts?

Ok fans strongly dislike Jackson, and a lot of people say he's over-rated, keep the pick and draft D. Russell out of Ohio st. And use the cash to sign Wesley Mathews.

I think I already said this (sorry if I did) but you can't S&T using a pick. Free Agency is after then draft. We could trade a drafted player, if the other team wants the guy we took, but we couldn't/wouldn't draft a player FOR the other team, because we wouldn't have been able to speak with the RFA and wouldn't know if he even wanted to sign with us.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1773 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:08 am

GreenMachine wrote:Can anyone here give an updated scouting report on Stauskas? I know what he was in College... but are his struggles in the NBA due solely to not getting enough minutes/needs time to develop... or is he going to be like Fredette where his skills simply don't translate?

Regardless, I wouldn't give up KO. Big for unproven small = too much risk. I would be happy to do Bass, but they aren't looking for a rental... I also doubt Bass/picks interests them. They are in a hurry (which is always a mistake) to start winning. They want proven players not picks.

Bass/Turner or Bass for Landry/Nik help them..

Anyway, I don't know the read on Stauskas right now- my sense is that the sample size is too small, but it's not exactly a Fredette situation because he's not trying to be Pete Maravich 2.0. He just needs to hit shots and defend/dribble at a decent level.

campybatman · Post #1774 » by **campybatman** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:13 am

Williams, Stauskas and Casspi and 2015 second round pick in exchange for Sullinger and Bradley works.

Edug27 · Post #1775 » by **Edug27** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:14 am

Sac isn't a playoff contender this season. I don't see what they would want with Bass.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1776 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:19 am

Edug27 wrote:Sac isn't a playoff contender this season. I don't see what they would want with Bass.

I don't see what they would want with trading Stauskas now.. And Bass actually fits them extremely well on the defensive end, plus he's a mid-range shooter and an expiring they can re-up at a discount.

GreenMachine · Post #1777 » by **GreenMachine** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:21 am

campybatman wrote:Williams, Stauskas and Casspi and 2015 second round pick in exchange for Sullinger and Bradley works.

Works for who? Not I.

Higgs Boston · Post #1778 » by **Higgs Boston** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:30 am

campybatman wrote:Williams, Stauskas and Casspi and 2015 second round pick in exchange for Sullinger and Bradley works.

Even only bradley has more value than this package, and I'am not a bradley fan, don't even close.

Ben-N1ce · Post #1779 » by **Ben-N1ce** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:42 am

Why not offer a late clippers pick and a 2nd rounder for MCW. He's cheap and those picks aren't really all that valuable.

campybatman · Post #1780 » by **campybatman** » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:06 am

In my opinion, Bradley isn't worth his current salary, and Ainge has a tendency to overvalue some of his players. Players, such as Bass, Green and Bradley, were overpaid. That is, the market should've dictated their worth, not Ainge. That's why I was surprised by the salary each player got. Especially, the Green and Bradley contracts.