2014-2015 NBA MVP Discussion

olive_triangurl · Post #1581 » by **olive_triangurl** » Wed Feb 4, 2015 2:42 am

stayeduptolate wrote:
olive_triangurl wrote:
stayeduptolate wrote:
just curious why do you hate curry so much?

His mouth-guard, his personality and the way he falls over after attempting almost wide-open threes.....

fair enough so I am guessing you do not want him to be a Hornet?

The only player I'd add to the current Hornets team without hesitation is Wiggins.
The only Golden State players I'd consider adding would be Klay Thompson and Bogut (especially if Bogut wasn't so injury-prone).

Boarder Patrol · Post #1582 » by **Boarder Patrol** » Wed Feb 4, 2015 5:15 am

olive_triangurl wrote:
stayeduptolate wrote:
just curious why do you hate curry so much?

His mouth-guard, his personality and the way he falls over after attempting almost wide-open threes.....

I was under the impression he fell to break his fall and protect his ankles.

stayeduptolate · Post #1583 » by **stayeduptolate** » Wed Feb 4, 2015 5:20 am

Boarder Patrol wrote:
olive_triangurl wrote:
stayeduptolate wrote:
just curious why do you hate curry so much?

His mouth-guard, his personality and the way he falls over after attempting almost wide-open threes.....

I was under the impression he fell to break his fall and protect his ankles.

no sometimes he does it to get calls.

olive_triangurl · Post #1584 » by **olive_triangurl** » Wed Feb 4, 2015 5:27 am

stayeduptolate wrote:
Boarder Patrol wrote:
olive_triangurl wrote:
His mouth-guard, his personality and the way he falls over after attempting almost wide-open threes.....

I was under the impression he fell to break his fall and protect his ankles.

no sometimes he does it to get calls.

Always does it to get calls.
The worst type of basketball player in NBA history.

stayeduptolate · Post #1585 » by **stayeduptolate** » Wed Feb 4, 2015 5:33 am

olive_triangurl wrote:
stayeduptolate wrote:
Boarder Patrol wrote:
I was under the impression he fell to break his fall and protect his ankles.

no sometimes he does it to get calls.

Always does it to get calls.
The worst type of basketball player in NBA history.

damn if you wanna talk about flopping and falling down well I can name a few players.... lol

DreDay · Post #1586 » by **DreDay** » Wed Feb 4, 2015 7:45 am

You can dislike Curry but those reasons from a Harden fan...the irony could not be more clear.

CnG · Post #1587 » by **CnG** » Wed Feb 4, 2015 7:46 am

olive_triangurl wrote:
stayeduptolate wrote:
just curious why do you hate curry so much?

His mouth-guard, his personality and the way he falls over after attempting almost wide-open threes.....

Yeah man, the way he does a lot of stuff for the community and is a family man looking after his kid (soon to be kids) married to his girl that he met at church group when he was a kid. Don't even get me started on those arrogant post-game interviews where he credits his teammates and coaches.

And that mouth guard... That alone is enough is to really have hatred towards him, totally rational and warranted.

olive_triangurl · Post #1588 » by **olive_triangurl** » Wed Feb 4, 2015 7:51 am

oaklandwarriors wrote:You can dislike Curry but those reasons from a Harden fan...the irony could not be more clear.

If I was giving out points for favorite I'd do it like this-
Wiggins: 50%
Pau Gasol: 10%
Butler: 5%
Harden: 5%
Others: 30%

CnG wrote:
And that mouth guard... That alone is enough is to really have hatred towards him, totally rational and warranted.

I said he's the player I dislike more than any other, not "hate".
I could only hate someone for their off-the-court things (because basketball is never important enough to provoke "hate").
"Dislike" is directed at on-the-court things.
I deserve huge credit/props/kudos for giving Curry the MVP, I must be the most objective poster in the history of realgm.

Post #1589 » by **kingkirk** » Wed Feb 4, 2015 10:26 am

olive_triangurl wrote:
stayeduptolate wrote:
Boarder Patrol wrote:
I was under the impression he fell to break his fall and protect his ankles.

no sometimes he does it to get calls.

Always does it to get calls.
The worst type of basketball player in NBA history.

olive_triangurl · Post #1590 » by **olive_triangurl** » Wed Feb 4, 2015 10:44 am

^ Yep I don't like Curry's dancing either.

TaylorMonkey · Post #1591 » by **TaylorMonkey** » Wed Feb 4, 2015 2:59 pm

olive_triangurl wrote:
stayeduptolate wrote:
Boarder Patrol wrote:
I was under the impression he fell to break his fall and protect his ankles.

no sometimes he does it to get calls.

Always does it to get calls.
The worst type of basketball player in NBA history.

Not really. It's a bit of both. Mostly to protect his ankles, and selling contact at times which he doesn't really get anyway compared to Crawford.

If Curry was really a flopper, you'd see it show up in every aspect of his game, like with Chris Paul or Harden. Curry actually had to consciously try to sell calls on drives more when he realized he wasn't getting to the line compared to the Hardens and Paul's, and he still doesn't really do it all that much. He's pretty much just settled for finishing.

Your singling out of Curry for flopping is really, really odd, especially considering the volume of visual and video evidence of both him and other players to compare him to.

Curry is easily the least floppy of the superstars in discussion (Harden, Lebron, and Curry.)

Man, the fact that Harden is a 5% favorite and not a -500% if you think floppers are the worst kind of players. 75% of his inside game is built entirely around flopping and playing human missile.

olive_triangurl · Post #1592 » by **olive_triangurl** » Wed Feb 4, 2015 4:06 pm

The worst kind of flopping is the 3-point-shooter falling down.
3-point-shooting is already soft enough without resorting to flopping.
Nothing even comes close to Curry's level of disgrace.
The lowest of the low.
But he's the most likely MVP, and that's what this thread is about, not about flopping.

The Realist · Post #1593 » by **The Realist** » Wed Feb 4, 2015 5:25 pm

olive_triangurl wrote:As far as MVP is concerned LeBron can't even sniff Curry's jockstrap.
Its more lopsided than when Rose won it, because Golden State is extremely superior to Cleveland.
If Cleveland's horrible defense met Golden State in the NBA Finals, it'd be an absolute blow-out.
And because Golden State is such a machine (like Nash's Phoenix was but GS is clearly winning a lot more games) I wouldn't be surprised if Curry wins the next couple of MVPs.
This season was the big opportunity for LeBron to win MVP (because the media could use the logic of "look how much Cleveland improved compared to last year") but Golden State's absolute domination makes it impossible to give the MVP to anyone but Curry.
And Curry is the player I dislike more than anyone else in the NBA btw.

Damn.

DreDay · Post #1594 » by **DreDay** » Wed Feb 4, 2015 9:44 pm

On one hand golden state is stacked, but reading the Cavs v Warriors thread it is a consensus that Cavs are more talented. Remind me why LeBron should get MVP then?

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MisterHibachi · Post #1595 » by **MisterHibachi** » Wed Feb 4, 2015 11:44 pm

oaklandwarriors wrote:On one hand golden state is stacked, but reading the Cavs v Warriors thread it is a consensus that Cavs are more talented. Remind me why LeBron should get MVP then?

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You do realize people only think the Cavs are more talented because LeBron is on the team?

Coxy · Post #1596 » by **Coxy** » Wed Feb 4, 2015 11:47 pm

olive_triangurl wrote:The worst kind of flopping is the 3-point-shooter falling down.
3-point-shooting is already soft enough without resorting to flopping.
Nothing even comes close to Curry's level of disgrace.
The lowest of the low.
But he's the most likely MVP, and that's what this thread is about, not about flopping.

You must be joking. You MUST be.

olive_triangurl · Post #1597 » by **olive_triangurl** » Thu Feb 5, 2015 2:44 am

^ I've never been more serious.
3-point-flopping is the thing I dislike most about the NBA, by far.
Anyway, its beside the point, because Curry is the upcoming MVP, he's the leading scorer/playmaker on a team that is dominating the West (and will continue to dominate the West next year too probably, because they are a machine and they're young).

TaylorMonkey · Post #1598 » by **TaylorMonkey** » Thu Feb 5, 2015 3:00 am

olive_triangurl wrote:The worst kind of flopping is the 3-point-shooter falling down.
3-point-shooting is already soft enough without resorting to flopping.
Nothing even comes close to Curry's level of disgrace.
The lowest of the low.
But he's the most likely MVP, and that's what this thread is about, not about flopping.

That's pretty arbitrary for what's considered the worst flopping. I'd say throwing oneself at players without even trying to score or falling down without any contact and not even making a play would be the worst type of flopping, because it's literally not playing basketball to flop.

I'm guessing you're not a fan of Reggie Miller either?

In any case, for having a completely irrational take on the player, I'd have to say your MVP evaluation does seem all that more objective.

TaylorMonkey · Post #1599 » by **TaylorMonkey** » Thu Feb 5, 2015 3:06 am

oaklandwarriors wrote:On one hand golden state is stacked, but reading the Cavs v Warriors thread it is a consensus that Cavs are more talented. Remind me why LeBron should get MVP then?

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Apparently Golden State is stacked only when discrediting Curry's MVP contributions against Lebron and suddenly not as good when comparing them straight up.

DreDay · Post #1600 » by **DreDay** » Thu Feb 5, 2015 5:22 am

MisterHibachi wrote:
oaklandwarriors wrote:On one hand golden state is stacked, but reading the Cavs v Warriors thread it is a consensus that Cavs are more talented. Remind me why LeBron should get MVP then?

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You do realize people only think the Cavs are more talented because LeBron is on the team?

And Curry has the better team. Once again, remind me why LeBron is the MVP?