ImageImageImageImageImage

Terrible Terrence Ross Needs a Change of Scenery

Moderators: Morris_Shatford, DG88, niQ, 7 Footer, lebron stopper, Reeko, Duffman100, HiJiNX, tsherkin

KrazyP
General Manager
Posts: 9,510
And1: 5,718
Joined: Jun 03, 2001
 

Re: Terrible Terrence Ross Needs a Change of Scenery 

Post#41 » by KrazyP » Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:58 am

There is no reason Ross cant be a roleplayer like Mo Pete.......he was essentially that last season. His insertion into the starting lineup instead of Gay was a big reason for the Raps turnaround. He's obviously in a funk right now, hopefully he works his way out of it. Screw fickle fans. I'm loyal to my boyz.
User avatar
Ari_Emanuel
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,200
And1: 2,942
Joined: Jul 07, 2009

Re: Terrible Terrence Ross Needs a Change of Scenery 

Post#42 » by Ari_Emanuel » Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:59 am

My expectations aren't even moderate for him. I just want him to a be a pest on defense like Patrick Beverly. Talent and athleticism isn't the issue with him, he's just not a driven, focused person. Who are we to judge him though? What are we doing with our lives?

Meh. I wish him no ill will. Keep him, trade him, whatever. As long as the decision that is made is best for the franchise long term.
neurotik wrote:
Raps Maniac wrote:
Risk101 wrote:Inb4 the ass jokes.

But that's his downside.

No thats his backside.

Lowry's upside is mental and psychological.
User avatar
JYD
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 32,532
And1: 7,213
Joined: Aug 07, 2001
Location: NOT POSSIBLE! NOT POSSIBLE!

Re: Terrible Terrence Ross Needs a Change of Scenery 

Post#43 » by JYD » Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:10 am

I don't think MU needs the memo, I doubt he's here long term. Probably traded by the deadline, if not in the offseason.
Oakville_Raptor
Head Coach
Posts: 6,715
And1: 3,777
Joined: Feb 20, 2008
Location: Oakville, ON
         

Re: Terrible Terrence Ross Needs a Change of Scenery 

Post#44 » by Oakville_Raptor » Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:13 am

TeeDot wrote:As much as i want ross to be traded, I don't really see Masai making any shake-ups with the current roster. I mean were 36-17 and chemistry is always spoken of with this team, so i doubt Masai wants to make any changes. I think we'll be seeing the same 15 on our roster in 9 days vs GS.


I hear what you're saying about chemistry but what if Masai trades for a guy who has heart and will go all out to help the team? Raptors players would forget all about Ross.
Image
Waylon Mercy
Banned User
Posts: 12,346
And1: 6,644
Joined: Sep 08, 2010

Re: Terrible Terrence Ross Needs a Change of Scenery 

Post#45 » by Waylon Mercy » Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:13 am

Matty wrote:
Waylon Mercy wrote:
Matty wrote:This thread has been bookmarked for "future reference".


The few Ross fans left are like the few Bargnani fans there use to be...

You guys choose to go down on the Titanic for some reason...

Remember pride is one of the 7 deadly sins


Nah I'm just a Raptor fan who doesn't throw 3rd year players with limited minutes under the bus. The sins are on you guys for betraying real talent.


lol at real talent...When you get older you realize fancy dunks and the odd highlight play doesn't mean "real talent"
His skill set of a 3 and D player has always been a role player.

Usually 3rd year players don't go backwards especially after bombing in the playoffs...

Since then he showed absolutely nothing with DeRozan injured, lost his starting spot and now he's like the 8th man
in the rotation and the worst part is he could careless.

Ujiri said in a interview on the Fan 590 when he first took over he wasn't a big fan of Ross and said there was
next to no interest in him on the trade market and that they would be patient with him and try and develop him.
I can imagine not much has changed.

This is not the type of player you as a poster should be hitching your wagon to unless you like eating crow sandwiches
User avatar
deeps6x
RealGM
Posts: 10,248
And1: 6,271
Joined: Nov 28, 2008
     

Re: Terrible Terrence Ross Needs a Change of Scenery 

Post#46 » by deeps6x » Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:24 am

43rd worst PER out of 68 SF's in the league. Way below league average at 11.55.

I think he could be so much better than this. I'd hate to give up on him too soon. You've got him under contract next season for cheap $$$, so think about trading him 12 months from now, or match offers 17 months from now.


if we were to trade him now, we'd better be getting back a much better (and obviously older end of career type) that can help us win for at least 2 more seasons.
Spoiler:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:I apologize, I have incredibly small genitalia
User avatar
Pass it
Rookie
Posts: 1,246
And1: 883
Joined: Jun 29, 2012

Re: Terrible Terrence Ross Needs a Change of Scenery 

Post#47 » by Pass it » Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:30 am

Was really high on him for the first 2 seasons as a Raptor. But I can't get past his low IQ. Guys like Draymond Green can play at a borderline all star level off of IQ. Image if Ross had that with his athleticsm.

I also can't look past the fact that he's a major wuss. He has the ability to dunk hard like he did on Faried but tries to avoid contact at all costs now when he goes for a lay up/dunk.

The final nail in the coffin is people defending because of personal issues. If your getting millions to play basketball you better to learn put those aside. And it was his choice to knock up a Ho.
User avatar
Inevitable
RealGM
Posts: 44,482
And1: 134,652
Joined: Apr 22, 2006
Contact:
   

Re: Terrible Terrence Ross Needs a Change of Scenery 

Post#48 » by Inevitable » Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:39 am

He is what he is right now, personally I've given up on him.
User avatar
lolwut
General Manager
Posts: 8,596
And1: 13,285
Joined: Jun 28, 2009
 

Re: Terrible Terrence Ross Needs a Change of Scenery 

Post#49 » by lolwut » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:29 am

Ross has completely fallen off a cliff after the knocked up that groupie.
2023-2024 FatherTracker™ - baby raptors looking to be adopted by a warm, loving family man
Image
WhatsaTDot
RealGM
Posts: 11,391
And1: 7,302
Joined: May 16, 2010
Location: ♫ Whoa Black Betty Shambleland ♫

Re: Terrible Terrence Ross Needs a Change of Scenery 

Post#50 » by WhatsaTDot » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:01 am

Waylon Mercy wrote:
WhatsaTDot wrote:Trade him whilst his value is absolutely rock bottom and the club is in a winning position.

Yeah that makes sense.


The thing is Ross has sucked for 3 years now....Has he shown that much progress since his first month of his rookie season?

That's like saying don't trade Joey Graham after 3 or 4 years of sucking while his trade value is rock bottom
you keep on waiting and before you know it these guys are out of the league.

It's like Colangelo waiting on Bargnani for 7 years...

There's never been a "high" point to sell on Ross


He had a stretch of about 60 good games for us last year as a starter.

As for his value, if you believe he's Joey Graham, what would you expect to get in return for that? If he sucks at the end of his rookie contract then don't renew it. But trading him will likely return similar poor performing pieces.

The upside is that he finds a specialist role as a shooter with us. That's useful to have around and its not like we need to make major changes given our goals for this year (i.e. 2nd round).
Image

This place is insufferable.
WhatYaWant
Senior
Posts: 601
And1: 549
Joined: Feb 07, 2015

Re: Terrible Terrence Ross Needs a Change of Scenery 

Post#51 » by WhatYaWant » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:09 am

I honestly forgot Ross was even on the team tonight. wow and i thought he was going to have a great year
wat
ya
want
User avatar
sh00n
RealGM
Posts: 20,416
And1: 2,013
Joined: Jul 15, 2006
Contact:
       

Re: Terrible Terrence Ross Needs a Change of Scenery 

Post#52 » by sh00n » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:12 am

Haven't ever been a big Ross fan, and it's gotten worse every time I see him slack on defense, take a contested shot, or see Andre Drummond play.
Image
Support your local artist, kids: http://www.katsenhakeron.com
User avatar
BC_IS_A_PLAYA
Starter
Posts: 2,200
And1: 3,878
Joined: Dec 22, 2012
Location: Enjoying the ride
 

Re: Terrible Terrence Ross Needs a Change of Scenery 

Post#53 » by BC_IS_A_PLAYA » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:15 am

Ross is a write off
hype_2004
RealGM
Posts: 12,942
And1: 5,247
Joined: May 28, 2004
Location: T.O

Re: Terrible Terrence Ross Needs a Change of Scenery 

Post#54 » by hype_2004 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:20 am

Terrence Ross needs to forget his baby momma, and be a man, take responsibility of his life. He would do well to build his body, take some PEDs, get stronger, be aggressive, come back 230 lbs and bang with the big boys.
Dukenukem23
Banned User
Posts: 2,682
And1: 1,971
Joined: Mar 21, 2014

Re: Terrible Terrence Ross Needs a Change of Scenery 

Post#55 » by Dukenukem23 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:35 am

I'd bet money he's gone by the deadline for a big man.
User avatar
Boogie!
RealGM
Posts: 71,520
And1: 59,658
Joined: Oct 27, 2005
Location: Ba da da da daaaaaa. If you build it, they will come!
Contact:
   

Re: Terrible Terrence Ross Needs a Change of Scenery 

Post#56 » by Boogie! » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:37 am

Lmao... So this guy went from being scrub first year... To a huge part of our successcand potential allstar second year. To now being useless and a must deal at the trade deadline in his 3rd year? That's pretty ridiculous.cseriously, that's just a really bad management of assets. Terrence Ross value is at an all time low... And he his role has diminished with the addition of Lou Williams... But there are tons of players right now that will provide you with the same impact Ross does, meaning inconsistent production. Difference being, a lot of those players don't have the potential he does... Basically, you're not gonna get anything better than Ross or anyone apt hat will make more of an impact than Ross for him, so getting rid of him for the sake of it is a terrible idea, considering he still has the potential to get better. Unlessches part of a package for a legit star, it makes no sense. He needs at least another year in the playoffs and in the league before its time to say he's not part of the future.
mdenny wrote:In anycase....Masai is probably gonna make Fred the first active player/head coach in franchise history now that Nurse is out of the way. That's been the plan all along.
Got Nuffin
Rookie
Posts: 1,190
And1: 1,145
Joined: Apr 19, 2014
     

Re: Terrible Terrence Ross Needs a Change of Scenery 

Post#57 » by Got Nuffin » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:57 am

For a guy I thought was going to be pretty good, he was an embarassment tonight. He can no longer stay in front of any guard in the league when just a year ago Casey was giving him John Wall as his responsibility.

It's sad to see. Really hope he figures out whatever has been troubling him lately. He didn't come back with anything new after last season and even his shooting seems off.

He looks more like Jamario Moon out there rather than Klay Thompson.
Image
almatic
Veteran
Posts: 2,628
And1: 1,713
Joined: Jul 29, 2009
       

Re: Terrible Terrence Ross Needs a Change of Scenery 

Post#58 » by almatic » Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:02 am

I honestly think if the Raptors tried to call back Sonny Weems from Europe & give him Terrence Ross' role, it would be a plausible upgrade & a hand-in-glove fit. You have the Young Gunz reunion & Weems seems to have really upgraded his overall game over there as a main option.
Rapsalot
Head Coach
Posts: 6,269
And1: 1,678
Joined: Mar 11, 2007
Location: Traveling
     

Re: Terrible Terrence Ross Needs a Change of Scenery 

Post#59 » by Rapsalot » Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:03 am

I still believe he can be a wing off the bench as I have said for years. He has talent but not a consistent drive. Mid to late 20s when he loses some speed he is done if he does not learn more.
User avatar
TdotRap4Lyfe
General Manager
Posts: 7,885
And1: 5,079
Joined: Feb 02, 2013
Location: Toronto
     

Re: Terrible Terrence Ross Needs a Change of Scenery 

Post#60 » by TdotRap4Lyfe » Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:04 am

He has fallen off but personally it just means we can sign him for a bargain next year. Then have him developed as our first guard off the bench. People seem to forget we need good role players, and not just star players. He may not be starter quality, but he sure as hell can be a great bench player for us.
Image
Credits to Jstock12

Return to Toronto Raptors