Trade Targets (postcript on yesterday-other teams)

crkone · Post #4981 » by **crkone** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:33 pm

So PHX wants to include Isiah Thomas in any trades? It's always nice when another team pulls a Hammond and wants to ship someone out immediately.

machu46 · Post #4982 » by **machu46** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:36 pm

crkone wrote:So PHX wants to include Isiah Thomas in any trades? It's always nice when another team pulls a Hammond and wants to ship someone out immediately.

At least for now. They seem to be in denial about the reports that Dragic wants out.

skywalker33 · Post #4983 » by **skywalker33** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:36 pm

MidnightBuck wrote:Might be a steep price, but Demarcus Cousins would put the Bucks over the top and debatably make them dominant in 4-5 years. I would give up both our 1sts + a minor piece for him.

It's stuff like this that makes me come over to this forum....you guys crack me up :rofl:

Cooleyo47 · Post #4984 » by **Cooleyo47** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:37 pm

Treebeard wrote:
ampd wrote:
Treebeard wrote:
I honestly don't think you put much stock in their listed weights right now. If you look at last summer's photo of Hennson, Larry, and Giannis; Giannis is the one with the better frame for muscling up. Also, Giannis' older brother Thanasis, he's built very solid - not huge, but muscular; so maybe he's the prototype to compare against.

I don't know if that means he's best used as a C, but he should have the size for it.

Giannis will probably end up the biggest of the 3 but I'd hate to see him bulk up to play c. His agility and speed is a big part of what makes him special.

I do see some young KG, or I still like the Larry Nance comparison too. However, several years from now, we will probably look back on these comparisons and laugh a bit; as Giannis is unique and will carve his own niche.

Giannis is unique unto himself, the ability to play on the perimeter and initiate offense at his height still reminds me of KD... But he's already bulkier than KD will ever be.

SkilesTheLimit · Post #4985 » by **SkilesTheLimit** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:39 pm

Treebeard wrote:
ampd wrote:
Treebeard wrote:
I honestly don't think you put much stock in their listed weights right now. If you look at last summer's photo of Hennson, Larry, and Giannis; Giannis is the one with the better frame for muscling up. Also, Giannis' older brother Thanasis, he's built very solid - not huge, but muscular; so maybe he's the prototype to compare against.

I don't know if that means he's best used as a C, but he should have the size for it.

Giannis will probably end up the biggest of the 3 but I'd hate to see him bulk up to play c. His agility and speed is a big part of what makes him special.

I do see some young KG, or I still like the Larry Nance comparison too. However, several years from now, we will probably look back on these comparisons and laugh a bit; as Giannis is unique and will carve his own niche.

I don't want to overuse hyperbole here but this is why Giannis has the ability to revolutionize the game. When is the last time we have seen a player realistically be able to play all 5 positions on the court?

It points to his unbelievable skill set. If he stayed the same weight he could play 1-3 spots. If he gains 20-25 lbs he could be a mismatch nightmare playing Center.

The only player I'd trade him for right now is Anthony Davis. It's amazing to think we have that highly valued a player here as a 20 year old.

Giannis single-handedly injected optimism to a Bucks RealGM board that was depressing to the point of Internet suicide before he came into the organization.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #4986 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:40 pm

machu46 wrote:
crkone wrote:So PHX wants to include Isiah Thomas in any trades? It's always nice when another team pulls a Hammond and wants to ship someone out immediately.

At least for now. They seem to be in denial about the reports that Dragic wants out.

suns are meeting with dragics agent today if he wants out hell be traded by tomorrow. Goran likes phoenix but does want to get paid and wants to play some minutes at the point.

The difference in the Thomas situation to what Hammond usually does is the suns will at least get a minor asset back for him not have to send one out for a team to take him.

Green can probably be had for a 2nd rounder.

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JustinCredible · Post #4987 » by **JustinCredible** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:42 pm

This will sound crazy but I wouldn't trade Giannis for anyone. Not even Anthony Davis.

The reason is simple. Milwaukee is all Giannis knows. His family lives here and loves it. He is a 20 year old on his way to being a superstar and there is zero reason to believe he will ever want to leave. Could the same be said for Anthony Davis? We have hit the jackpot with this kid and I'm hanging onto him and riding it out. A truly untouchable player.

VooDoo7 · Post #4988 » by **VooDoo7** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:47 pm

JustinCredible wrote:This will sound crazy but I wouldn't trade Giannis for anyone. Not even Anthony Davis.

I love Giannis as much as anybody. But this is crazy.

Treebeard · Post #4989 » by **Treebeard** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:47 pm

Thanasis Antetekounmpo - preview of how Giannis fills out in coming years? Not huge, but very solidly assembled.

dc634 · Post #4990 » by **dc634** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:48 pm

JustinCredible wrote:This will sound crazy but I wouldn't trade Giannis for anyone. Not even Anthony Davis.

The reason is simple. Milwaukee is all Giannis knows. His family lives here and loves it. He is a 20 year old on his way to being a superstar and there is zero reason to believe he will ever want to leave. Could the same be said for Anthony Davis? We have hit the jackpot with this kid and I'm hanging onto him and riding it out. A truly untouchable player.

That is kind of like saying you'd rather have Wade over LeBron though. If Giannis ever becomes the player that Davis is at age 21 I'd be surprised. Aside from AD though, I don't know who I'd really trade Giannis for.

Cooleyo47 · Post #4991 » by **Cooleyo47** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:48 pm

SkilesTheLimit wrote:
Treebeard wrote:
ampd wrote:

TOTALLY unique player who has the potential to be a generational talent. Makes Jabari (who looked great in his own right) look like a consolation prize.

GoldenAntlers · Post #4992 » by **GoldenAntlers** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:48 pm

skywalker33 wrote:
MidnightBuck wrote:Might be a steep price, but Demarcus Cousins would put the Bucks over the top and debatably make them dominant in 4-5 years. I would give up both our 1sts + a minor piece for him.

It's stuff like this that makes me come over to this forum....you guys crack me up

I don't think many of us actually this is reasonable...

JustinCredible · Post #4993 » by **JustinCredible** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:49 pm

VooDoo7 wrote:
JustinCredible wrote:This will sound crazy but I wouldn't trade Giannis for anyone. Not even Anthony Davis.

I love Giannis as much as anybody. But this is crazy.

In a vacuum? Sure. My reasoning isn't crazy though.

dedned · Post #4994 » by **dedned** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:49 pm

JustinCredible wrote:This will sound crazy but I wouldn't trade Giannis for anyone. Not even Anthony Davis.

The reason is simple. Milwaukee is all Giannis knows. His family lives here and loves it. He is a 20 year old on his way to being a superstar and there is zero reason to believe he will ever want to leave. Could the same be said for Anthony Davis? We have hit the jackpot with this kid and I'm hanging onto him and riding it out. A truly untouchable player.

I'm sure he wouldn't mind moving to New York to play with his brother.

yoshii8 · Post #4995 » by **yoshii8** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:49 pm

VooDoo7 wrote:
JustinCredible wrote:This will sound crazy but I wouldn't trade Giannis for anyone. Not even Anthony Davis.

I love Giannis as much as anybody. But this is crazy.

Please not this discussion again.

JustinCredible · Post #4996 » by **JustinCredible** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:51 pm

dc634 wrote:
JustinCredible wrote:This will sound crazy but I wouldn't trade Giannis for anyone. Not even Anthony Davis.

The reason is simple. Milwaukee is all Giannis knows. His family lives here and loves it. He is a 20 year old on his way to being a superstar and there is zero reason to believe he will ever want to leave. Could the same be said for Anthony Davis? We have hit the jackpot with this kid and I'm hanging onto him and riding it out. A truly untouchable player.

That is kind of like saying you'd rather have Wade over LeBron though. If Giannis ever becomes the player that Davis is at age 21 I'd be surprised. Aside from AD though, I don't know who I'd really trade Giannis for.

I don't want to derail the thread but would you rather have a couple of years of AD or an entire career of Giannis? If I could have one player for their career I would take AD, but I would choose a career of Giannis over a few years of AD. I don't think that is crazy.

M-C-G · Post #4997 » by **M-C-G** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:53 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
The difference in the Thomas situation to what Hammond usually does is the suns will at least get a minor asset back for him not have to send one out for a team to take him.

The Norris Cole talk, makes me think we are in the market for another guard...The Ersan to SAC talk could make some sense.

So what about;

SAC IN: Ersan
SAC OUT: D. Williams (maybe something else small)

PHX IN: D. Williams (maybe something else small), Clips 1st
PHX OUT: Plumlee, IT

MKE IN: Plumlee, IT
MKE OUT: Ersan, Clips 1st

SAC gets the stretch 4

PHX undoes the IT signing

MKE gets the PG and back up big we need for a run this year

I'm not a huge IT fan, and Plumlee is 26 and really want be anything all that useful but a big athletic body we kind of need right now on the roster.

I don't know, maybe something like that makes some sense, but the more I look at it, the more I don't like the IT / Knight / Bayless combo.

JustinCredible · Post #4998 » by **JustinCredible** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:53 pm

dedned wrote:
JustinCredible wrote:This will sound crazy but I wouldn't trade Giannis for anyone. Not even Anthony Davis.

The reason is simple. Milwaukee is all Giannis knows. His family lives here and loves it. He is a 20 year old on his way to being a superstar and there is zero reason to believe he will ever want to leave. Could the same be said for Anthony Davis? We have hit the jackpot with this kid and I'm hanging onto him and riding it out. A truly untouchable player.

I'm sure he wouldn't mind moving to New York to play with his brother.

I'm sure his brother wouldn't mind playing in New York either but I have yet to see that happen.

VooDoo7 · Post #4999 » by **VooDoo7** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:56 pm

JustinCredible wrote:
dedned wrote:
JustinCredible wrote:This will sound crazy but I wouldn't trade Giannis for anyone. Not even Anthony Davis.

The reason is simple. Milwaukee is all Giannis knows. His family lives here and loves it. He is a 20 year old on his way to being a superstar and there is zero reason to believe he will ever want to leave. Could the same be said for Anthony Davis? We have hit the jackpot with this kid and I'm hanging onto him and riding it out. A truly untouchable player.

I'm sure he wouldn't mind moving to New York to play with his brother.

I'm sure his brother wouldn't mind playing in New York either but I have yet to see that happen.

Yeah. What are the chances Thanasis is still in NY when Giannis becomes a FA?

As long as we're competitive still when Giannis becomes a FA, I don't see him going anywhere. He seems way too loyal. Who knows tho?

BucksFanSD · Post #5000 » by **BucksFanSD** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:57 pm

The Wet Whistle wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/_John_Henson_/status/567713211362078720[/tweet]

Speculate away

OK, I will speculate away

I can see the Kings being high on Henson. They need either a shot blocker next to Cousins or a distant shooter (an Ersan).

I'd be all over this...

Kings: Stauskas, Thompson, 1st Round Pick
Bucks: Henson, Mayo, 2nd Round Pick