Trade Targets (postcript on yesterday-other teams)

Giannis Parker · Post #6061 » by **Giannis Parker** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:06 pm

Sure this comment will start a lot of arguments, but Kanter=Middleton.

Neither is a player you can build around, neither is worthy of being 2nd best, not even sure either is good enough to be 3rd best on a title team. Each seems like a fit player, nothing more or less.

Wonka · Post #6062 » by **Wonka** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:06 pm

I'd rather sign Ricky Ledo

Chuck Diesel · Post #6063 » by **Chuck Diesel** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:06 pm

Ersan seems like a decent fit in Atlanta's system. Getting back Shelvin Mack & Mike Muscala works. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

Wonka · Post #6064 » by **Wonka** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:07 pm

Giannis Parker wrote:Sure this comment will start a lot of arguments, but Kanter=Middleton.

Neither is a player you can build around, neither is worthy of being 2nd best, not even sure either is good enough to be 3rd best on a title team. Each seems like a fit player, nothing more or less.

Then don't say it in the first place lol, you've done it now...

Matches Malone · Post #6065 » by **Matches Malone** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:08 pm

tski1972 wrote:this thread needs an enema.

Post #6066 » by **Prez** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:09 pm

Giannis Parker wrote:Sure this comment will start a lot of arguments, but Kanter=Middleton.

Neither is a player you can build around, neither is worthy of being 2nd best, not even sure either is good enough to be 3rd best on a title team. Each seems like a fit player, nothing more or less.

Neither would be asked to be #1 or #2, so that's irrelevant. And Middleton is to me unquestionably a better #3 or #4 going forward.

Post #6067 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:09 pm

Nope, not taking the bait.

SkilesTheLimit · Post #6068 » by **SkilesTheLimit** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:09 pm

Giannis Parker wrote:Sure this comment will start a lot of arguments, but Kanter=Middleton.

Neither is a player you can build around, neither is worthy of being 2nd best, not even sure either is good enough to be 3rd best on a title team. Each seems like a fit player, nothing more or less.

Parker and Giannis are guys you build around. Guys like Middleton are who you build WITH.

Middleton's shot is elite now. When you can tell me what Kanter does that's elite, I'll be all ears.

Chuck Diesel · Post #6069 » by **Chuck Diesel** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:09 pm

Ersan used to play well against Stan Van in 2009. I wonder if he could be tricked into trading him for the expiring deals of Jonas Jerebko & Joel Anthony.

JayMKE · Post #6070 » by **JayMKE** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:09 pm

Giannis Parker wrote:Sure this comment will start a lot of arguments, but Kanter=Middleton.

Neither is a player you can build around, neither is worthy of being 2nd best, not even sure either is good enough to be 3rd best on a title team. Each seems like a fit player, nothing more or less.

except Kanter can't play d and is a blackhole on offense

no Middleton does not = Kanter

Kanter is wishful thinking that he might one day be a useful player given his size and age, Middleton is young and already a useful 2 way player with an elite skill. What does Kanter do at an elite level?

Licensed to Il · Post #6071 » by **Licensed to Il** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:09 pm

Chuck, are you feeling all right? You just proposed a trade that brought back two American born players. Did you recently eat some spoiled karaask and sult?

LUKE23 · Post #6072 » by **LUKE23** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:10 pm

Middleton is mega efficient, Kanter is middling efficient. Middleton is a good defender, Kanter is a bad defender. So no, they aren't the same.

emunney · Post #6073 » by **emunney** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:11 pm

Villanoeyebrows wrote:Chuck, are you feeling all right? You just proposed a trade that brought back two American born players. Did you recently eat some spoiled karaask and sult?

Muscala was in Spain last year.

TroyD92 · Post #6074 » by **TroyD92** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:11 pm

Giannis Parker wrote:Sure this comment will start a lot of arguments, but Kanter=Middleton.

Neither is a player you can build around, neither is worthy of being 2nd best, not even sure either is good enough to be 3rd best on a title team. Each seems like a fit player, nothing more or less.

That's just wrong.

Baddy Chuck · Post #6075 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:11 pm

Giannis Parker wrote:Sure this comment will start a lot of arguments, but Kanter=Middleton.

Neither is a player you can build around, neither is worthy of being 2nd best, not even sure either is good enough to be 3rd best on a title team. Each seems like a fit player, nothing more or less.

So then keep the good 3+D fit and let them keep the 7' Kris Humphries.

Giannis Parker · Post #6076 » by **Giannis Parker** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:12 pm

SkilesTheLimit wrote:
Parker and Giannis are guys you build around. Guys like Middleton are who you build WITH.

Middleton's shot is elite now. When you can tell me what Kanter does that's elite, I'll be all ears.

Middleton shot at this rate for 45 games last year as well, then fell of quite a bit.

I do like Middleton, said that numerous times, but Kanter could become a 18-9 guy, and the paint is important.

Pay Middleton 10m to shoot, or pay Kanter 10m to rebound and score, I will pay the guy who gives me more than one thing. I do not believe this hype on Middleton on the defensive end personally, because I have faith that the system is what makes these guys look good, not their individual talents.

Chuck Diesel · Post #6077 » by **Chuck Diesel** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:13 pm

Ersan for Joel Anthony, Gigi Datome also works.

TroyD92 · Post #6078 » by **TroyD92** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:13 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Nope, not taking the bait.

Good call. Should have followed this advice.

JayMKE · Post #6079 » by **JayMKE** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:14 pm

Giannis Parker wrote:
SkilesTheLimit wrote:
Parker and Giannis are guys you build around. Guys like Middleton are who you build WITH.

Middleton's shot is elite now. When you can tell me what Kanter does that's elite, I'll be all ears.

Middleton shot at this rate for 45 games last year as well, then fell of quite a bit.

I do like Middleton, said that numerous times, but Kanter could become a 18-9 guy, and the paint is important.

Pay Middleton 10m to shoot, or pay Kanter 10m to rebound and score, I will pay the guy who gives me more than one thing. I do not believe this hype on Middleton on the defensive end personally, because I have faith that the system is what makes these guys look good, not their individual talents.

18 and 9 is meaningless if it is done inefficiently, selfishly, and with no defense. Empty stats.

LUKE23 · Post #6080 » by **LUKE23** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:15 pm

Giannis Parker wrote:Middleton shot at this rate for 45 games last year as well, then fell of quite a bit.

I do like Middleton, said that numerous times, but Kanter could become a 18-9 guy, and the paint is important.

Pay Middleton 10m to shoot, or pay Kanter 10m to rebound and score, I will pay the guy who gives me more than one thing. I do not believe this hype on Middleton on the defensive end personally, because I have faith that the system is what makes these guys look good, not their individual talents.

He's been slightly under 42% from 3 for 130 games and 439 attempts.