ImageImage

Trade Targets (postcript on yesterday-other teams)

Moderators: MickeyDavis, paulpressey25

Prince12
RealGM
Posts: 12,327
And1: 2,750
Joined: Mar 08, 2010
Contact:
     

Re: Trade Targets (Trade Deadline less than 24 hours) 

Post#6181 » by Prince12 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:41 pm

Trade or no trade I reckon we'll get another 100 pages post deadline with angry reaction. Looking forward to it.
@mkebucksaus just kicking off. Give it a follow!

https://twitter.com/mkebucksaus
User avatar
Turk Nowitzki
RealGM
Posts: 34,337
And1: 11,429
Joined: Feb 26, 2010
Location: on the Hellmouth
     

Re: Trade Targets (Trade Deadline less than 24 hours) 

Post#6182 » by Turk Nowitzki » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:42 pm

For the record, I've been watching a bunch of Kanter today and he isn't someone I'd be excited to add. Everything he does on the offensive end is centered around how he can get the ball in his hands and put up a shot. When you're conditioned to play the game that way it's a hard habit to break.
Cooleyo47
Rookie
Posts: 1,138
And1: 531
Joined: Jan 14, 2010
     

Re: Trade Targets (Trade Deadline less than 24 hours) 

Post#6183 » by Cooleyo47 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:43 pm

breakchains wrote:The most promising thing of any trade that occurs is that it may be a sign that Hammond actually has some juice. Funny to say that sentence but it's better to me than Kidd and/or LED making personnel moves, especially given Hammond's public comments over the last year.


Hammond has fared okay in trades... I feel like he's won more than he's lost?

I may be overlooking an obvious blunder, but Hammond's biggest mistakes to me are as follows:

1) Passing on Curry in favor of Ellis
2) Passing on drafting Klay Thompson in order to add S-Jax
3) Trading Tobias Harris for 28 games of the Redick era
4) Signing Drew Gooden to a contract everyone knew was ridiculous the moment it was announced
5) Trading for Corey Maggette
6) Signing John Salmons to a contract everyone knew was ridiculous the moment it was announced

Oh, crap, they just keep coming.

The overarching theme to all of these transactions was reaching for perceived immediate reward. Are we willing to assume Kohl played a major role in all of these?
User avatar
emunney
RealGM
Posts: 62,780
And1: 41,115
Joined: Feb 22, 2005
Location: where takes go to be pampered

Re: Trade Targets (Trade Deadline less than 24 hours) 

Post#6184 » by emunney » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:49 pm

I can't believe how long Hammond has been around. Remember he traded for RJ in his first offseason. That seems so **** long ago.
Here are more legal notices regarding the Posts
User avatar
JustinCredible
Head Coach
Posts: 6,254
And1: 2,965
Joined: Nov 08, 2005
Location: Madison, WI
Contact:
       

Re: Trade Targets (Trade Deadline less than 24 hours) 

Post#6185 » by JustinCredible » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:49 pm

Turk Nowitzki wrote:For the record, I've been watching a bunch of Kanter today and he isn't someone I'd be excited to add. Everything he does on the offensive end is centered around how he can get the ball in his hands and put up a shot. When you're conditioned to play the game that way it's a hard habit to break.


To be fair you won't see much else watching highlights.
All posts are my own opinion.
Twitter: @itsjwills
MrPerfect1
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,372
And1: 3,433
Joined: Jul 02, 2013

Re: Trade Targets (Trade Deadline less than 24 hours) 

Post#6186 » by MrPerfect1 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:50 pm

The more I look at Kanter the worse he looks:

-Averages Less than 1 Block/Game which is really bad for a Center (including an Awful 0.4 / 36 MIns this year)

-Averages Less than 1 Assist/Game (don't expect much ball movement from him)

-Shoots under 50% (very bad for a C)
Ruzious
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 47,909
And1: 11,582
Joined: Jul 17, 2001
       

Re: Trade Targets (Trade Deadline less than 24 hours) 

Post#6187 » by Ruzious » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:57 pm

MrPerfect1 wrote:The more I look at Kanter the worse he looks:

-Averages Less than 1 Block/Game which is really bad for a Center (including an Awful 0.4 / 36 MIns this year)

-Averages Less than 1 Assist/Game (don't expect much ball movement from him)

-Shoots under 50% (very bad for a C)

Yeah, he's a scorer/rebounder who doesn't do a whole lot else. But scoring and rebounding numbers are what Joe Fan looks at more than anything else - and seems to be what NBA GMs look at most when free agents are available. Henson's PER has actually been higher than Kanter's, and he's been a more efficient scorer and better defender. If Henson's no better than a good backup, then Kanter is probably something less than that.
"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams
User avatar
JustinCredible
Head Coach
Posts: 6,254
And1: 2,965
Joined: Nov 08, 2005
Location: Madison, WI
Contact:
       

Re: Trade Targets (Trade Deadline less than 24 hours) 

Post#6188 » by JustinCredible » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:57 pm

Ty Lawson with an unexcused absence at practice today. Like I said, I do not want this clown.

http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_27552733/nuggets-ty-lawson-misses-first-practice-back-from
All posts are my own opinion.
Twitter: @itsjwills
User avatar
Baddy Chuck
RealGM
Posts: 51,249
And1: 25,392
Joined: Apr 18, 2006
 

Re: Trade Targets (Trade Deadline less than 24 hours) 

Post#6189 » by Baddy Chuck » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:58 pm

Ruzious wrote:
MrPerfect1 wrote:The more I look at Kanter the worse he looks:

-Averages Less than 1 Block/Game which is really bad for a Center (including an Awful 0.4 / 36 MIns this year)

-Averages Less than 1 Assist/Game (don't expect much ball movement from him)

-Shoots under 50% (very bad for a C)

Yeah, he's a scorer/rebounder who doesn't do a whole lot else. But scoring and rebounding numbers are what Joe Fan looks at more than anything else - and seems to be what NBA GMs look at most when free agents are available. Henson's PER has actually been higher than Kanter's, and he's been a more efficient scorer and better defender. If Henson's no better than a good backup, then Kanter is probably something less than that.

Kanter's a taller Kris Humphries.
John Henson wrote:This lady just asked me who I play for and I said the Milwaukee Bucks, she quickly replied “oh the highschool across the street?”
Giannis Parker
Banned User
Posts: 925
And1: 169
Joined: Oct 22, 2014

Re: Trade Targets (Trade Deadline less than 24 hours) 

Post#6190 » by Giannis Parker » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:00 pm

So when Kanter comes here, efficiently scores 18 ppg, grabs 10rpg, and plays within the system, how will you guys be reacting then?

My personal goal, find any way possible to cut another 7-8m off our cap for next season, and just offer Kanter a deal, but if we really want him, not going to hate the Bucks for the trade they decide to make, that is just foolish. Trust is key gentlemen, trust is key.
User avatar
Matches Malone
RealGM
Posts: 35,753
And1: 26,179
Joined: Nov 23, 2005
     

Re: Trade Targets (Trade Deadline less than 24 hours) 

Post#6191 » by Matches Malone » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:01 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel/status/568180491154620416[/tweet]
Gery Woelfel wrote:Got a time big boy?
User avatar
Jez2983
RealGM
Posts: 18,093
And1: 8,192
Joined: Dec 10, 2006
Location: #team56.4%eFG
   

Re: Trade Targets (Trade Deadline less than 24 hours) 

Post#6192 » by Jez2983 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:01 pm

JustinCredible wrote:Ty Lawson with an unexcused absence at practice today. Like I said, I do not want this clown.

http://www.denverpost.com/nuggets/ci_27552733/nuggets-ty-lawson-misses-first-practice-back-from


Unless he's been traded?

Image
trwi7 wrote:Will be practicing my best Australian accent for tomorrow.

"Hey ya wankers. I graduated from Aranmore back in 2010 and lost me yearbook. Is there any way you didgeridoos can send anotha yearbook me way?"
User avatar
Jez2983
RealGM
Posts: 18,093
And1: 8,192
Joined: Dec 10, 2006
Location: #team56.4%eFG
   

Re: Trade Targets (Trade Deadline less than 24 hours) 

Post#6193 » by Jez2983 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:02 pm

Matches Malone wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel/status/568180491154620416[/tweet]


Welcome to Milwaukee, Reggie Jackson.
trwi7 wrote:Will be practicing my best Australian accent for tomorrow.

"Hey ya wankers. I graduated from Aranmore back in 2010 and lost me yearbook. Is there any way you didgeridoos can send anotha yearbook me way?"
Giannis Parker
Banned User
Posts: 925
And1: 169
Joined: Oct 22, 2014

Re: Trade Targets (Trade Deadline less than 24 hours) 

Post#6194 » by Giannis Parker » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:03 pm

Jez2983 wrote:
Unless he's been traded?



Pretty sure he would be excused if traded.
Prince12
RealGM
Posts: 12,327
And1: 2,750
Joined: Mar 08, 2010
Contact:
     

Re: Trade Targets (Trade Deadline less than 24 hours) 

Post#6195 » by Prince12 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:04 pm

Matches Malone wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/GeryWoelfel/status/568180491154620416[/tweet]

It seems that not only Reggie over values himself. I'm expecting OKC softens significantly in the next 24 hours. Not being linked is nice though when the price is high.
@mkebucksaus just kicking off. Give it a follow!

https://twitter.com/mkebucksaus
User avatar
Baddy Chuck
RealGM
Posts: 51,249
And1: 25,392
Joined: Apr 18, 2006
 

Re: Trade Targets (Trade Deadline less than 24 hours) 

Post#6196 » by Baddy Chuck » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:04 pm

Can we trade Mayo for Bennett to have the chunkiest tweener combo in the NBA? There'd have to be a good marketing strategy for Piggly Wiggly with those two.
John Henson wrote:This lady just asked me who I play for and I said the Milwaukee Bucks, she quickly replied “oh the highschool across the street?”
User avatar
JustinCredible
Head Coach
Posts: 6,254
And1: 2,965
Joined: Nov 08, 2005
Location: Madison, WI
Contact:
       

Re: Trade Targets (Trade Deadline less than 24 hours) 

Post#6197 » by JustinCredible » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:05 pm

No question that Kanter needs to correct some things in his game. That said, I think he is in a bad situation in Utah. He just isn't being used right. They have clearly tried to make him a stretch 4 and he just isn't. His FG% is off because they have him stretching the floor and taking long jumpers at times.

He needs to pass more but I think that can be learned. Kidd and Zaza would be great teachers in that area.

He isn't a finished product and he has holes in his game. That is why he is available. IMO it is worth the risk of Henson/LAC 1st but nothing more.
All posts are my own opinion.
Twitter: @itsjwills
User avatar
Frank Nova
Head Coach
Posts: 7,346
And1: 3,532
Joined: Jul 04, 2008
Location: Shootin’ dice with Larry Bird in Barcelona
       

Re: Trade Targets (Trade Deadline less than 24 hours) 

Post#6198 » by Frank Nova » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:05 pm

Giannis Parker wrote:So when Kanter comes here, efficiently scores 18 ppg, grabs 10rpg, and plays within the system, how will you guys be reacting then?

My personal goal, find any way possible to cut another 7-8m off our cap for next season, and just offer Kanter a deal, but if we really want him, not going to hate the Bucks for the trade they decide to make, that is just foolish. Trust is key gentlemen, trust is key.


What is the likelihood a deal for Kanter is made if you had to put a % on it right now?
RIP Kobe Forever. GOAT 8-24. Long Live Giannis
User avatar
thomchatt3rton
Head Coach
Posts: 6,405
And1: 2,236
Joined: Jun 11, 2009
 

Re: Trade Targets (Trade Deadline less than 24 hours) 

Post#6199 » by thomchatt3rton » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:07 pm

Turk Nowitzki wrote:For the record, I've been watching a bunch of Kanter today and he isn't someone I'd be excited to add. Everything he does on the offensive end is centered around how he can get the ball in his hands and put up a shot. When you're conditioned to play the game that way it's a hard habit to break.


If Kantner had a couple years left on his deal, it would be easier for me to accept trading for him- maybe we could get him to break certain habits, etc.
As is, I just don't get it.
User avatar
JustinCredible
Head Coach
Posts: 6,254
And1: 2,965
Joined: Nov 08, 2005
Location: Madison, WI
Contact:
       

Re: Trade Targets (Trade Deadline less than 24 hours) 

Post#6200 » by JustinCredible » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:07 pm

Giannis Parker wrote:
Jez2983 wrote:
Unless he's been traded?



Pretty sure he would be excused if traded.


Yup. Maybe this is his way to demand a trade? Maybe something happened and it is a legit reason to miss (doubtful but possible there was an accident or something).
All posts are my own opinion.
Twitter: @itsjwills

Return to Milwaukee Bucks