Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 4

[nate33]

I think the key will be finding a team that Dragic would sign with long-term, right?

Exactly. That's the key. I'd bet good money that Dragic has little interest in toiling for the Sixers for the next few years as they develop their young talent. I doubt he has much interest in Orlando either, though at least they have better prospects than Philly (and play in a tax free jurisdiction). My guess is that Dragic would consider resigning in Indy, making Indy a very intriguing option.

[nate33]

Larry Sanders agrees to a buyout.

Fascinating. If Sanders was just a lazy good-for-nothing druggie, he would have stayed in Milwaukee and kept getting checks. Instead, he's accepting a $13M buyout instead of being paid the $33M he is owed over the next 3 years. That's a lot of money he is leaving on the table. I guess he still really wants to play basketball and is willing to bet big money to make it happen.

How much money do we have leftover from the Ariza TPE? I'd sign him to the full remaining amount for a 3 year deal with a team option for Year 3 - basically, the Kris Humphries contract. What have we got to lose?

[nate33]

ESPN says the Ariza exception is $4.3M.

[TheSecretWeapon]

Larry Sanders agrees to a buyout.

Fascinating. If Sanders was just a lazy good-for-nothing druggie, he would have stayed in Milwaukee and kept getting checks. Instead, he's accepting a $13M buyout instead of being paid the $33M he is owed over the next 3 years. That's a lot of money he is leaving on the table. I guess he still really wants to play basketball and is willing to bet big money to make it happen.

How much money do we have leftover from the Ariza TPE? I'd sign him to the full remaining amount for a 3 year deal with a team option for Year 3. Basically, the Kris Humphries contract. What have we got to lose?

I don't think the Wizards can use money from the TPE -- that has to be for a trade. Since Sanders has been bought out, he's being released, and he's a free agent. Since the Wizards are over the cap, the most they can offer him is the league minimum (I think). I don't think he can do a sign-and-trade using Milwaukee since he's been released.

[nate33]

Hmmm. A team like Miami could trade for Dragic AND sign Larry Sanders. They could be a pretty scary team:

PG Dragic
SG Wade
SF Deng
PF Bosh
C Whiteside/Sanders

[nate33]

Larry Sanders agrees to a buyout.

Fascinating. If Sanders was just a lazy good-for-nothing druggie, he would have stayed in Milwaukee and kept getting checks. Instead, he's accepting a $13M buyout instead of being paid the $33M he is owed over the next 3 years. That's a lot of money he is leaving on the table. I guess he still really wants to play basketball and is willing to bet big money to make it happen.

How much money do we have leftover from the Ariza TPE? I'd sign him to the full remaining amount for a 3 year deal with a team option for Year 3. Basically, the Kris Humphries contract. What have we got to lose?

I don't think the Wizards can use money from the TPE -- that has to be for a trade. Since Sanders has been bought out, he's being released, and he's a free agent. Since the Wizards are over the cap, the most they can offer him is the league minimum (I think). I don't think he can do a sign-and-trade using Milwaukee since he's been released.

Crap. You're right. We don't have any way of acquiring him then, except the vet minimum. We don't even have the BAE because we used it on Eric freaking Maynor last year.

[TheSecretWeapon]

Larry Sanders agrees to a buyout.

Fascinating. If Sanders was just a lazy good-for-nothing druggie, he would have stayed in Milwaukee and kept getting checks. Instead, he's accepting a $13M buyout instead of being paid the $33M he is owed over the next 3 years. That's a lot of money he is leaving on the table. I guess he still really wants to play basketball and is willing to bet big money to make it happen.

How much money do we have leftover from the Ariza TPE? I'd sign him to the full remaining amount for a 3 year deal with a team option for Year 3. Basically, the Kris Humphries contract. What have we got to lose?

I don't think the Wizards can use money from the TPE -- that has to be for a trade. Since Sanders has been bought out, he's being released, and he's a free agent. Since the Wizards are over the cap, the most they can offer him is the league minimum (I think). I don't think he can do a sign-and-trade using Milwaukee since he's been released.

Crap. You're right. We don't have any way of acquiring him then, except the vet minimum. We don't even have the BAE because we used it on Eric freaking Maynor last year.

Maynor: the gift that keeps on giving.

[Ruzious]

Larry Sanders' buyout has been completed for days -- and he is expected to receive $13 million pay out on rest of $40M, source tells RealGM.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) February 18, 2015

Could have been a lot worse for Milwaukee.

Wondering what Milwaukee might give up for Seraphin. They have the Clippers 2017 1st rounder (lotto protected).

[closg00]

Hmmm. A team like Miami could trade for Dragic AND sign Larry Sanders. They could be a pretty scary team:

PG Dragic
SG Wade
SF Deng
PF Bosh
C Whiteside/Sanders

Miami is on his Top-3 list, they would be scary as-long as DWade stays healthy.

[TGW]

Dragic isn't really a point guard though. He's definintely a combo guard. He'd work well with Wade though.

[TheSecretWeapon]

I'd love to see Dragic with the Wizards. For me, the ideal backcourt setup is a three-guard rotation where there's a "pure" PG, a "pure" SG, and a combo guard. A Wall-Beal-Dragic rotation would seem good -- especially if Beal makes The Leap next season. That'd be damn formidable. The challenge, of course, would be satisfying Dragic's salary demands. But, in any possible deal, the Wiz would be acquiring his Bird rights as well, so they'd be able to use him in a sign-and-trade next summer.

Dragic is good. He'll work well anywhere.

[verbal8]

Larry Sanders agrees to a buyout.

Fascinating. If Sanders was just a lazy good-for-nothing druggie, he would have stayed in Milwaukee and kept getting checks. Instead, he's accepting a $13M buyout instead of being paid the $33M he is owed over the next 3 years. That's a lot of money he is leaving on the table. I guess he still really wants to play basketball and is willing to bet big money to make it happen.

The amount of money left on the table and the timing(before the March 1st deadline) would suggest that he is looking to play on contender this season. His salary this season won't make a huge difference since it will be pro-rated. Monetarily it seems his best move is to showcase himself this season/post-season and sign a long-term deal. He only has to get $20 million over 3 years to break even.

[closg00]

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantas ... n-clarkson

Of-course, the kid looks like a steal. Grunfail

[Ruzious]

I'd love to see Dragic with the Wizards. For me, the ideal backcourt setup is a three-guard rotation where there's a "pure" PG, a "pure" SG, and a combo guard. A Wall-Beal-Dragic rotation would seem good -- especially if Beal makes The Leap next season. That'd be damn formidable. The challenge, of course, would be satisfying Dragic's salary demands. But, in any possible deal, the Wiz would be acquiring his Bird rights as well, so they'd be able to use him in a sign-and-trade next summer.

Dragic is good. He'll work well anywhere.

He's definitely good, but he'll make himself a UFA this summer (according to ESPN's free agent list) - and likely get paid more than John Wall. Would the changes from the last CBA restrict the Wiz ability to do a sign and trade - assuming Dragic would even be interested in going to a team that would be interested in doing a S&T?

[fishercob]

I'd love to see Dragic with the Wizards. For me, the ideal backcourt setup is a three-guard rotation where there's a "pure" PG, a "pure" SG, and a combo guard. A Wall-Beal-Dragic rotation would seem good -- especially if Beal makes The Leap next season. That'd be damn formidable. The challenge, of course, would be satisfying Dragic's salary demands. But, in any possible deal, the Wiz would be acquiring his Bird rights as well, so they'd be able to use him in a sign-and-trade next summer.

Dragic is good. He'll work well anywhere.

Given the likely acquisition costs, I think I'd rather have Thomas than Dragic. Dragic's value resets to market next year, while Thomas is likley to become more valuable as time passes, his salary decreases, and the cap grows.

I also think Thomas is more likely to accept the 3rd guard role, whereas Dragic seems pretty interested in being The Man.

I would have zero trouble in dealing Seraphin to get a buy like Thomas. While Seraphin is our best "post scorer" (quotes are deliberate -- ebecause what does that even mean)off the bench, Thomas is a better offensive player. We'd get different shots with the second unit, but they'd be better shots.

Seraphin, Webster and our '16 first for Thomas and Plumlee would be a dandy deal for me. Sign a swingman with the open roster spot.

[LyricalRico]

Sam Amick: Reggie is known to have turned down a Kemba type offer from OKC (4 yrs, $48 million). He wants more & believes he'll prove worthy over time. Twitter @sam_amick

See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.e7LzuUHc.dpuf

Interesting. I wouldn't think Jackson could get even that much on the open market (much less something over and above that), and I'm even more surprised that OKC would offer that.

I tell you what, the Thunder are tough to figure out. They pay Perkins and Ibaka, refuse to pay Harden, and then apparently offer $12M per to a third guard. Who knows that they're going to do between now and 2016.

[TheSecretWeapon]

My salary formula says Reggie Jackson is worth roughly $6.7 million against this year's cap. There would have to be a HUGE jump in the cap to get him to $12 million per.

[nate33]

Man, these salary demands in light of the new cap are outrageous. In a way, the KD2DC plan may help to save EG from himself. He is presumably going to abstain from signing any expensive free agents for the next 18 months. And if Durant ultimately elects not to come here in 2016, EG has cheap player options on Humphries and Blair. The best move may be to sit tight for a year and wait for everyone to blow all their "found money" on the 2016 free agent class. In 2017, the pretty good 2013 draft class hits the free agency market and there may be opportunities to grab guys like Adams and Gobert. Or maybe we keep our powder dry (or sign 2-year stopgaps) and wait for Cousins to be a free agent in 2018.

[closg00]

Sam Amick: Reggie is known to have turned down a Kemba type offer from OKC (4 yrs, $48 million). He wants more & believes he'll prove worthy over time. Twitter @sam_amick

See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.e7LzuUHc.dpuf

Interesting. I wouldn't think Jackson could get even that much on the open market (much less something over and above that), and I'm even more surprised that OKC would offer that.

I tell you what, the Thunder are tough to figure out. They pay Perkins and Ibaka, refuse to pay Harden, and then apparently offer $12M per to a third guard. Who knows that they're going to do between now and 2016.

Wow! That is a lot of money to walk away from, but I can understand Jackson wanting to see if he can land someplace where he is the top-dog.

[Kanyewest]

Sam Amick: Reggie is known to have turned down a Kemba type offer from OKC (4 yrs, $48 million). He wants more & believes he'll prove worthy over time. Twitter @sam_amick

See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.e7LzuUHc.dpuf

Interesting. I wouldn't think Jackson could get even that much on the open market (much less something over and above that), and I'm even more surprised that OKC would offer that.

I tell you what, the Thunder are tough to figure out. They pay Perkins and Ibaka, refuse to pay Harden, and then apparently offer $12M per to a third guard. Who knows that they're going to do between now and 2016.

It looks like OKC is getting desperate to keep Durant in town. That Dion Waiters trade smells of panic.