Trade Targets (postcript on yesterday-other teams)

[SkilesTheLimit]

Stein bomb. KG just has to sign off and he is a TWolve again.

Jabari on SC right now.

KG is set up to join ownership/FO in Minnesota next season.

[JustinCredible]

Giannis can't be a C. He's nice at PF, taking advantage of slower bigs but C is a stretch. There aren't a heap of big rugged C's anymore I know, but he would still take a beating at that spot and just isn't big / strong enough to battle at that spot for 82 games. Do you guys want our most promising player playing out of position and getting smashed around every night?

List of teams with starting Cs who would be too much for Giannis:

Grizzlies
Wolves
Kings
Warriors
Bulls
Pistons
Rockets
Clippers
Magic
Nets
Hornets
Pacers
Wizards

And then there are teams like Toronto, Dallas, New Orleans, Portland etc that have big athletic C's that would be tough to box out all game and defend at the rim constantly. It also take away from Giannis being able to get out in transition.

Giannis at C is a horrible idea IMO.

Might want to tell the Bucks that because they have been playing him minutes at center this season and it appears to be their plan in the future for him.

[JayMKE]

Lawson would be good guy to target as I think he's a great fit being a pure point, is locked up on a favorable contract the next couples years, and he could actually help us win a playoff series this year. He's established and enough of a veteran PG that Knight would have to to defer and play off the ball. It really would be killing 2 birds with 1 stone.

[Giannis Parker]

The "Ersan for Thompson/Stauskas" stuff sounds a lot like the wishful Ersan crap in the past. There'd almost have to be a first going out in that deal.

I do not think you understand how valuable cutting off the 2016-2017 salary is in regards to Ersan.

Why do you think teams all of a sudden have interest in him once the 90m tag for 2016-2017 became public? Answer, 400k guaranteed only.

[Aaron It Out]

I would do Ersan/Clip 1st for Thompson/Stauskas just as fast.

[Frank Nova]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=l3ey4ya

What else needs to be done in your eyes?

*EDIT Nuggets get Clips 2017 1st and Kings 2016 1st

*EDIT 2 That is Henson not Bayless, misclicked

That trade basically leaves us Jason Thompson, Dudley, Martin and JOB as the only PF/C's on the roster. We would easily need Lebron James and Kevin Durant to overcome that.

[Bernman]

It sounds like "crap" that our new insider Giannis Parker had relayed. I think you're projecting your particularly low opinion of Ersan like usual and ignoring this is the Kings we're talking about so that makes the implausible plausible.

[JustinCredible]

Here is the actual deal, I misclicked Bayless into it instead of Henson.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=qhhckec

As I noted above, Nuggets also get Clips 2017 1st and the Kings 2016 1st (top 7 protected)

It is a solid try but no way the Kings are giving up their 1st for that.

[JustinCredible]

It sounds like "crap" that our new insider Giannis Parker had relayed. I think you're projecting your opinion of Ersan like usual and ignoring this is the Kings we're talking about so that makes the implausible plausible.

I'm pretty sure he said Ersan/LAC 1st. That is a lot different then just Ersan.

[VooDoo7]

It sounds like "crap" that our new insider Giannis Parker had relayed. I think you're projecting your particularly low opinion of Ersan like usual and ignoring this is the Kings we're talking about so that makes the implausible plausible.

He's not an insider.

[Giannis Parker]

Still think the Kings trade the house to get Dragic, including Stauskas, but maybe a 3rd team like the Bucks will need to get involved. In this instance we can obtain Plumlee possibly. This jives with the report from our old moderator down in Phoenix who said we could be involved with a Dragic deal where Ersan goes out and Plumlee comes in.

[Bernman]

It sounds like "crap" that our new insider Giannis Parker had relayed. I think you're projecting your opinion of Ersan like usual and ignoring this is the Kings we're talking about so that makes the implausible plausible.

I'm pretty sure he said Ersan/LAC 1st. That is a lot different then just Ersan.

OK, he can clarify, but I don't remember a pick anywhere involved. I just remember Ersan. Believe me, I'm more on your side on that's more toward what they should expect, but that doesn't mean Vivek does.

[Garbs_7]

Giannis can't be a C. He's nice at PF, taking advantage of slower bigs but C is a stretch. There aren't a heap of big rugged C's anymore I know, but he would still take a beating at that spot and just isn't big / strong enough to battle at that spot for 82 games. Do you guys want our most promising player playing out of position and getting smashed around every night?

List of teams with starting Cs who would be too much for Giannis:

Grizzlies
Wolves
Kings
Warriors
Bulls
Pistons
Rockets
Clippers
Magic
Nets
Hornets
Pacers
Wizards

And then there are teams like Toronto, Dallas, New Orleans, Portland etc that have big athletic C's that would be tough to box out all game and defend at the rim constantly. It also take away from Giannis being able to get out in transition.

Giannis at C is a horrible idea IMO.

Might want to tell the Bucks that because they have been playing him minutes at center this season and it appears to be their plan in the future for him.

Spot minutes at C against other teams backup bigs or PF's is one thing, having him as our starting C is crazy for the reasons I listed. I disagree it appears to be their plan in the future, there's no evidence of that.

[Giannis Parker]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=l3ey4ya

What else needs to be done in your eyes?

*EDIT Nuggets get Clips 2017 1st and Kings 2016 1st

*EDIT 2 That is Henson not Bayless, misclicked

That trade basically leaves us Jason Thompson, Dudley, Martin and JOB as the only PF/C's on the roster. We would easily need Lebron James and Kevin Durant to overcome that.

Would likely be accompanied by another move

Personally, I like the idea of giving Giannis some major burn at Center though.

[JustinCredible]

Lawson would be good guy to target as I think he's a great fit being a pure point, is locked up on a favorable contract the next couples years, and he could actually help us win a playoff series this year. He's established and enough of a veteran PG that Knight would have to to defer and play off the ball. It really would be killing 2 birds with 1 stone.

I completely agree. Basketball-wise it is a slam dunk. The red flags do worry me though. It is worth the risk of Henson/LAC 1st but not much else.

[Sauce Boss]

Giannis can't be a C. He's nice at PF, taking advantage of slower bigs but C is a stretch. There aren't a heap of big rugged C's anymore I know, but he would still take a beating at that spot and just isn't big / strong enough to battle at that spot for 82 games. Do you guys want our most promising player playing out of position and getting smashed around every night?

List of teams with starting Cs who would be too much for Giannis:

Grizzlies
Wolves
Kings
Warriors
Bulls
Pistons
Rockets
Clippers
Magic
Nets
Hornets
Pacers
Wizards

And then there are teams like Toronto, Dallas, New Orleans, Portland etc that have big athletic C's that would be tough to box out all game and defend at the rim constantly. It also take away from Giannis being able to get out in transition.

Giannis at C is a horrible idea IMO.

Might want to tell the Bucks that because they have been playing him minutes at center this season and it appears to be their plan in the future for him.

Well, he was getting played there because Sanders, Henson, Zaza, Ersan, and Martin haven't exactly had a clean bill of health and it's forced us to give him minutes there. That doesn't mean he is all of a sudden the C of the future.

[ampd]

Giannis can't be a C. He's nice at PF, taking advantage of slower bigs but C is a stretch. There aren't a heap of big rugged C's anymore I know, but he would still take a beating at that spot and just isn't big / strong enough to battle at that spot for 82 games. Do you guys want our most promising player playing out of position and getting smashed around every night?

List of teams with starting Cs who would be too much for Giannis:

Grizzlies
Wolves
Kings
Warriors
Bulls
Pistons
Rockets
Clippers
Magic
Nets
Hornets
Pacers
Wizards

And then there are teams like Toronto, Dallas, New Orleans, Portland etc that have big athletic C's that would be tough to box out all game and defend at the rim constantly. It also take away from Giannis being able to get out in transition.

Giannis at C is a horrible idea IMO.

I could see playing him there in spurts going super small but to actually PLAN on it being his primary position? Seems like a bad idea to me.

playing our best young player out if position to accommodate giving up assets for Lawson and keeping Knight is just too many guys playing out of position. Knight's undersized at sg. Middleton is better at sg but playing sf. Giannis is a 3/4 but playing 5. it's a bad plan

[JustinCredible]

Personally, I love the idea of him at Center. It would be such a unique mismatch when we are on offense. Does their center guard Giannis or Jabari? Either way we blow by them. I think Giannis can hold his own against centers more than they can stop him. Do we adjust or force the other team to adjust? It would be very interesting and I seriously do think the team is thinking about that long-term. Next year is likely a year early as I'm sure they'd like to see him add 15-20lbs first.

[TheWig]

The biggest trade this franchise needs is to trade Sidney moncrief for a different announcer.

[Baddy Chuck]

The "Ersan for Thompson/Stauskas" stuff sounds a lot like the wishful Ersan crap in the past. There'd almost have to be a first going out in that deal.

I do not think you understand how valuable cutting off the 2016-2017 salary is in regards to Ersan.

Why do you think teams all of a sudden have interest in him once the 90m tag for 2016-2017 became public? Answer, 400k guaranteed only.

They clear like $3 million or something on Thompson's salary that last year, and with the cap at 90m or whatever that is practically nothing. The deal makes less than no sense for Sacramento unless Ersan had the value he did like 2 seasons ago, which he's been nowhere near close to replicating as of late.