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Re: GT: Cavaliers vs. Spurs 

Post#41 » by Nolan » Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:26 am

SPURt wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/monroe_sa/status/576258438214238208[/tweet]


That's insane. He was on another level tonight.
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Re: GT: Cavaliers vs. Spurs 

Post#42 » by Dupp » Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:25 am

Yeah Kyrie was just on fire you guys played much better as a team and really should of won. Thats what happens in the nba though some guys can just go crazy.

Just look at assisted buckets though it's pretty clear you guys are better. I know he choked at the end but Kawhi was insane today, just unstoppable.


Also kinda OT, and i'm sure its a sore spot but i always see Kawhi being brought up for choking at the line in the finals but as an outsider i always blamed Manu more. He was the veteran and a guy who should have made them but no one ever seems to mention him much.


Oh well good game. Don't wanna see you in the finals but if we dont make it hope you go b2b.
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Re: GT: Cavaliers vs. Spurs 

Post#43 » by Mr Loggins » Fri Mar 13, 2015 1:23 pm

SPURt wrote:Boy it is frustrating to lose against well defended ISO ball. Kyrie is having the game of his career and there is nothing we can do. Hats off to him, but this type of playing won't last an entire playoff series.


To be fair to Kyrie, you can argue Portland last month (55 without overtime, including game tying and winning shots) was his career game.
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Re: GT: Cavaliers vs. Spurs 

Post#44 » by LesGrossman » Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:59 pm

Honestly guys you dont feel like the officials tried to turn every call cavs way, especially in the fourth?
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Re: GT: Cavaliers vs. Spurs 

Post#45 » by zeemwolves » Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:55 pm

Hey Spurs nation, wolves fan here i just wanted to ask if duncan will play against us or any news on when he'll be back? always saw him and KG as somewhat having an intense rivalry/competition and would like to see it one more time

plus wanted to say that Spurs are the team i admire the most, the team play and the internationals and smart draft picks everytime are worthy of respect, one of my best players and idols is The Admiral which brings me to admiring how your franchise always has a trademark player that they respect and are respected by
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Re: GT: Cavaliers vs. Spurs 

Post#46 » by imagump1313 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:57 pm

LesGrossman wrote:Honestly guys you dont feel like the officials tried to turn every call cavs way, especially in the fourth?


Not really any more than any other game. If you play well enough, bad calls aren't going to beat you. We played well but didn't do a few little things in the end that should be givens, and got beat. A little bit of a reminder for the guys about Game 6 2 years ago I bet. Glad it happened now than later in the playoffs.

I remember watching with about 1:15 left and we were up by 7 I think, and the announcers were talking as if the game was over. I thought that was strange because I had a gut feeling what was about to happen (because I still am scarred from Game 6). I've seen way too many games in my lifetime that can turn in less than a minute with more than a 7 point difference.
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Re: GT: Cavaliers vs. Spurs 

Post#47 » by co_laper » Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:36 am

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LesGrossman wrote:Honestly guys you dont feel like the officials tried to turn every call cavs way, especially in the fourth?


Not really any more than any other game. If you play well enough, bad calls aren't going to beat you. We played well but didn't do a few little things in the end that should be givens, and got beat. A little bit of a reminder for the guys about Game 6 2 years ago I bet. Glad it happened now than later in the playoffs.

I remember watching with about 1:15 left and we were up by 7 I think, and the announcers were talking as if the game was over. I thought that was strange because I had a gut feeling what was about to happen (because I still am scarred from Game 6). I've seen way too many games in my lifetime that can turn in less than a minute with more than a 7 point difference.


Yup, I didn't feel like Refs were an issue. It's just god damn Kyrie Irving making Tmac kinda plays. Atleast this isn't another Finals game. If we lose another Finals game with Kawhi choking from the FT line and our opponent win a miracle game, I'm just gonna start watching WNBA.
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Post#48 » by LesGrossman » Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:34 pm

And how about Pop's decision to not foul being three up? In my opinion that also cost the game besides the two missed FT's
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Re: GT: Cavaliers vs. Spurs 

Post#49 » by imagump1313 » Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:25 am

LesGrossman wrote:And how about Pop's decision to not foul being three up? In my opinion that also cost the game besides the two missed FT's


I can't speak for anyone else but at this point I trust Pop with whatever he decides. If he told everyone to sit and have only 1 guy on the floor defending I'd be ok with it...
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Post#50 » by co_laper » Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:22 pm

LesGrossman wrote:And how about Pop's decision to not foul being three up? In my opinion that also cost the game besides the two missed FT's


The only way you foul in that situation is if Kyrie had his back on the rim so that there was no chance he gets a shot up.. He was facing the rim the whole time he got the ball and it was like one dribble and a shot. It's more likely that you give up a foul on a 3 point shot in that situation. No way Pop supposed to foul there.

If there was anyone guilty on that play, it'd be Kawhi again. Parker got picked in a screen that allowed Kyrie to get the ball. Kawhi got out to Kyrie but should of ran him off the 3 point line and make Kyrie shoot a 2 pointer. Instead, Kawhi hesitated for a second and didn't even get to the 3 point line as Kyrie rose up for the shot. We simply shouldn't have give up a 3 point shot in that situation. Anything inside the 3 was fine.
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Post#51 » by LesGrossman » Tue Mar 17, 2015 6:25 am

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LesGrossman wrote:And how about Pop's decision to not foul being three up? In my opinion that also cost the game besides the two missed FT's


The only way you foul in that situation is if Kyrie had his back on the rim so that there was no chance he gets a shot up.. He was facing the rim the whole time he got the ball and it was like one dribble and a shot. It's more likely that you give up a foul on a 3 point shot in that situation. No way Pop supposed to foul there.

If there was anyone guilty on that play, it'd be Kawhi again. Parker got picked in a screen that allowed Kyrie to get the ball. Kawhi got out to Kyrie but should of ran him off the 3 point line and make Kyrie shoot a 2 pointer. Instead, Kawhi hesitated for a second and didn't even get to the 3 point line as Kyrie rose up for the shot. We simply shouldn't have give up a 3 point shot in that situation. Anything inside the 3 was fine.

I believe there was an opportunity to foul; you play the whole inbound play differently if you want to foul. Pop is the best in the business without doubt but if he has one weakness it is that he struggles to change his ways easily. He traditionally does not foul in that situation even though it cost the spurs several games by now.
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Re: Re: GT: Cavaliers vs. Spurs 

Post#52 » by co_laper » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:24 pm

LesGrossman wrote:I believe there was an opportunity to foul; you play the whole inbound play differently if you want to foul. Pop is the best in the business without doubt but if he has one weakness it is that he struggles to change his ways easily. He traditionally does not foul in that situation even though it cost the spurs several games by now.


I definitely don't agree with this.

On that play, there was no opportunity to foul because Kyrie never had his back to the basket the whole time.

If you're talking about how we should have set up our defense on the inbound play to make anybody who gets the ball has his back turned to the basket, I don't know. Unless you have a theory on how to set up a defense out of an inbound play where you can make any one of the five guys on the floor will get the ball with his back to the basket, please share. This isn't a situation where there's only one guy on the floor. There's five, and you don't know who will get it.

Struggle to change his way? If anything, out of all the coaches in the NBA history, you can argue that Pop has changes his ways all the time. That starts from the team's offense to the team's defense during his time in San Antonio all the way to the countless articles and quotes by people from the management who claims that Pop encouraged anybody in the staff to give ideas no matter how absurd.

And even if I agree to all you said that Pop does not foul in that situation, just what games has cost us? You said several. That's atleast 3, or else you'd said couple.

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