NETS/Pacers PG: Nets Go Streaking

[Prokorov]

I know I'm late to the party but how did Lopez go the whole 4th quarter without a shot attempt?? It doesn't seem like a big issue since the Nets won but if the Nets lost this game, this would be a huge story. Hopefully that doesn't happen again in the future. I know Jack, Johnson and Anderson were taking a bulk of the shots in the 4th, but as well as the Nets played as a team, I still saw some hero ball out there in the fourth.

it wouldnt have been a big story if we lost. the pacers made an adjustment, they went under every screen on the pick and roll and never left lopez and dared our gaurds to shoot it or go to the rim off of it. and we had decent success taking what they gave us.

no need to force feed lopez touches in the post. thats really not where he is at his best, especially when they had hibbert in. Lopez only bad shots tonite were fades off of post touches. he is at his best in the pick and roll and flshing in the paint off cross screens.

and it worked, they were forced to take that away and when they did our gaurds had some great looks and hibbert was often not in position to alter the shot. joe had 16 in the second half and really they had no one to stop him with the pacer big not helping off brook.

you dont force feed your best player the ball when the other team is determined to keep/get it out of his hands. you play team ball and take advantage of it, which is what we did

[MGrand15]

Brook's been fantastic. Offensively he was rolling harder to the rim. Really attacking. Indiana's a big team so it's good to see him go away from the floater/jumpshot a bit. I'm fine with those tools being used as weapons but it's nice to see him mix it up. More impressed with his passing, rebounding and defense. He's been a MUCH better passer. Out of double teams, on the roll, on the move. Just much smarter and more patient. He's no Duncan or anything but just the fact that he's making teams pay for doubling him is huge. That Joe Johnson 3 would've been Brook taking a contested jumper earlier in the year. No doubt about that.

THE BIG 3 all played well in the same game. Is that the first time that's happened all year? Can anyone confirm?

Jack and Plumlee need to find that chemistry again. We need their punch off the bench and Plums seems to get it going defensively/rebounding-wise when he's getting dunks. It's been awhile since we've seen them both get it going.

Love the way the team is playing. I may disagree with his Jack management but Hollins has done A LOT of good. You can tell he's emphasizing all the right things (man crush aside) and it really shows. Let's keep it rolling tomorrow.

[ChampionRed]

I know I'm late to the party but how did Lopez go the whole 4th quarter without a shot attempt?? It doesn't seem like a big issue since the Nets won but if the Nets lost this game, this would be a huge story. Hopefully that doesn't happen again in the future. I know Jack, Johnson and Anderson were taking a bulk of the shots in the 4th, but as well as the Nets played as a team, I still saw some hero ball out there in the fourth.

it wouldnt have been a big story if we lost. the pacers made an adjustment, they went under every screen on the pick and roll and never left lopez and dared our gaurds to shoot it or go to the rim off of it. and we had decent success taking what they gave us.

no need to force feed lopez touches in the post. thats really not where he is at his best, especially when they had hibbert in. Lopez only bad shots tonite were fades off of post touches. he is at his best in the pick and roll and flshing in the paint off cross screens.

and it worked, they were forced to take that away and when they did our gaurds had some great looks and hibbert was often not in position to alter the shot. joe had 16 in the second half and really they had no one to stop him with the pacer big not helping off brook.

you dont force feed your best player the ball when the other team is determined to keep/get it out of his hands. you play team ball and take advantage of it, which is what we did

Agree 100% with your post. It worked out for the Nets for sure. I definitely wouldn't want to see the Nets force it to Lopez in the post. I just wish the Nets would be more aggressive with their own game plan even if there is a little pressure. Just because the Pacers made the adjustment, doesn't mean the Nets shouldn't at least try to involve Lopez in the pick and roll. They completely went away from it after a couple plays where the Pacers covered him. There were several times Lopez was calling for the ball after that. Pretty much, they settled for what the Pacers gave them, which were jump shots, and happened to make the big ones. Just a small concern in an otherwise huge win.

[MGrand15]

I mean, the only reason Brook didn't have a FGA in the 4th is because Jack played nearly the entire 4th. Like Prok said, they paid more attention to Brook - Jack uses that (for better or for worse) to get space for his mid-range game. It's not like Brook was invisible out there. Or not having any plays called for him. Didn't really have a problem with it. Hollins just needed to go to Deron earlier. Sitting him with 3 minutes left in the 3rd and bringing him back with 5 left in the 4th is too long of a break. Not a fan of it for multiple reasons.

[Prokorov]

Agree 100% with your post. It worked out for the Nets for sure. I definitely wouldn't want to see the Nets force it to Lopez in the post. I just wish the Nets would be more aggressive with their own game plan even if there is a little pressure. Just because the Pacers made the adjustment, doesn't mean the Nets shouldn't at least try to involve Lopez in the pick and roll. They completely went away from it after a couple plays where the Pacers covered him. There were several times Lopez was calling for the ball after that. Pretty much, they settled for what the Pacers gave them, which were jump shots, and happened to make the big ones. Just a small concern in an otherwise huge win.

we DID try to involve him in the pick and roll. i mean we darn near ran it every single possesion. they just went under every screen and let the gaurd have a clear look and stuck to lopez. the big never switched or showed and hung back. we even tried to force it to brook off the pick and roll which led to a couple turnovers as the pass got deflected.

we took some jump shots in the 4th, but we did a ton of damange in the paint and at the line as well. 14 paint points is great for a quarter considering not many came from brook

[Prokorov]

I mean, the only reason Brook didn't have a FGA in the 4th is because Jack played nearly the entire 4th. Like Prok said, they paid more attention to Brook - Jack uses that (for better or for worse) to get space for his mid-range game. It's not like Brook was invisible out there. Or not having any plays called for him. Didn't really have a problem with it. Hollins just needed to go to Deron earlier. Sitting him with 3 minutes left in the 3rd and bringing him back with 5 left in the 4th is too long of a break. Not a fan of it for multiple reasons.

i was ok with him sitting deron. id rather have jack play from the 6 minute mark to the 2 or 3 minute mark and have deron close the game then have deron come in, foul out and have jack close the game. if the game was tied or we were down maybe i bring dwill back earlier but we were still ahead.

that said, i thought hollins mistake wasnt running the offense through johnson instead of having jack initiate it. once he went to joe we took control of the game.

they cant go under/trail on joe because once he gets his guy on his hip its an easy look at 6-8 feet. and they werent gonna leave brook

[Lamak]

Brook's floater is nearly unstoppable when he gets the ball in rhythm, which Jarret Jack cannot do. Brook on the block has also been amazing, and he uses his mid-range shot only when necessary or when hot which has been great. As far as his rebounding, man the dude has been blocking out like crazy and actually stays and battles. It's good to see Hollins influence cause he still has questionable lineups. Like I agree with others Darius Morris + bench could bring a good pesky elememt (PLEASE NO CLARK).

[Prokorov]

Brook's floater is nearly unstoppable when he gets the ball in rhythm, which Jarret Jack cannot do. Brook on the block has also been amazing, and he uses his mid-range shot only when necessary or when hot which has been great. As far as his rebounding, man the dude has been blocking out like crazy and actually stays and battles. It's good to see Hollins influence cause he still has questionable lineups. Like I agree with others Darius Morris + bench could bring a good pesky elememt (PLEASE NO CLARK).

im sorry, people need to just get off hollins case with the lineups. Darius Morris? come on. stop it. hollins no longer plays deron and jack together much if at all. he is starting thad and brook. he plays anderson/brown/markel based on production. darius morris isnt any kind of awsner and hollins should not be knocked for not playing him over jack.

as far as lopez, i hate the floater and i hate it every time he takes it. defenses cant stop it but it stops itself once the percentages even out and he doesnt having it falling as was the case the other night. id much rather him do what he did tonite, catch at 10 feet take a dribble and try and get to the rim. floater should only happen when he is up against the shot clock.

[CalamityX12]

I know I'm late to the party but how did Lopez go the whole 4th quarter without a shot attempt?? It doesn't seem like a big issue since the Nets won but if the Nets lost this game, this would be a huge story. Hopefully that doesn't happen again in the future. I know Jack, Johnson and Anderson were taking a bulk of the shots in the 4th, but as well as the Nets played as a team, I still saw some hero ball out there in the fourth.

Jarret jack was pg....

[Zachbretton]

Prok, it was the recent play that won out, our ability to play more as a team... I'm almost tearing at the sight. Happy we got the key win on our home floor, biggest win of the season.

I'm going to ride that roller coaster one more time at watch it before bed

[Paradise]

Brook's floater is nearly unstoppable when he gets the ball in rhythm, which Jarret Jack cannot do. Brook on the block has also been amazing, and he uses his mid-range shot only when necessary or when hot which has been great. As far as his rebounding, man the dude has been blocking out like crazy and actually stays and battles. It's good to see Hollins influence cause he still has questionable lineups. Like I agree with others Darius Morris + bench could bring a good pesky elememt (PLEASE NO CLARK).

im sorry, people need to just get off hollins case with the lineups. Darius Morris? come on. stop it. hollins no longer plays deron and jack together much if at all. he is starting thad and brook. he plays anderson/brown/markel based on production. darius morris isnt any kind of awsner and hollins should not be knocked for not playing him over jack.

as far as lopez, i hate the floater and i hate it every time he takes it. defenses cant stop it but it stops itself once the percentages even out and he doesnt having it falling as was the case the other night. id much rather him do what he did tonite, catch at 10 feet take a dribble and try and get to the rim. floater should only happen when he is up against the shot clock.

Jack is officially a code red chucker. His shot making is literally trick or treat. I would definitely put in Morris soon as he starts chucking and selfishly freezing out open players.

It's about sending a message.

[MrDollarBills]

I mean, the only reason Brook didn't have a FGA in the 4th is because Jack played nearly the entire 4th. Like Prok said, they paid more attention to Brook - Jack uses that (for better or for worse) to get space for his mid-range game. It's not like Brook was invisible out there. Or not having any plays called for him. Didn't really have a problem with it. Hollins just needed to go to Deron earlier. Sitting him with 3 minutes left in the 3rd and bringing him back with 5 left in the 4th is too long of a break. Not a fan of it for multiple reasons.

I would have let Deron play with 5 fouls. Jack hit some big shots but his tunnel vision was maddening

In reality, the end of games i prefer what we saw: Joe/Brook two man game. There is no reason to have Jack out there chucking away like that.

[Keith Van Horn]

If we only still had Livingston as backup PG.

[Prokorov]

Jack is officially a code red chucker. His shot making is literally trick or treat. I would definitely put in Morris soon as he starts chucking and selfishly freezing out open players.

It's about sending a message.

thats what he is. a bench gunner. in a game like last night where the offense is clicking you dont want much of him.... and hollins limited him but once deron was in foul trouble his hand was kind of forced.

Darius morris is awful. like one of the worst players in the NBA marquis teague level awful. he is not "solid". he will hurt you consistently. this pining for a horrible d-league player needs to stop. you dont go to a d-leaguer in the biggest must win game with your season possibly on the line. that just doesnt make sense.

as much as jack chucked, he hit a few shots as well. the turnover hurt, he had a poor game. but lets not act like morris couldnt have been even worse. morris is a turnover machine who can get pretty shot happy himself and loved to drive into traffic and then pick up his dribble.

if you want jack to play less or not with certain guys thats one thing. but im just not hearing this darius morris stuff.

[Prokorov]

Prok, it was the recent play that won out, our ability to play more as a team... I'm almost tearing at the sight. Happy we got the key win on our home floor, biggest win of the season.

I'm going to ride that roller coaster one more time at watch it before bed

you. another huge one tonite. this is a take care of business game. after this we have 5 straight games we will be the underdog in and all are games we could easily lose. NEED this win tontie and NEED to keep playing this way on both ends

[CalamityX12]

Jack prevents Lopez from hitting 30... Fml

to defend jack, i think he's more focused on preventing the nets from winning the game

I mean, wow....

Lopez ended the first half with 20 pts....

He finishes the game with 24... 4 pts in the 2nd?????? the offense just went away from him... Not all on Jack but in the 4th, FEED THE MOTHER **** HULK!

[SIC]

If we only still had Livingston as backup PG.

if we still had Livingston, he wouldnt have been the backup PG. He would have been the starting SG. We would still have had gotten Jack.

BKing has done a terrible job finding a suitable back up PG for this team since becoming GM. Gaines, CJ, and Jack are all scoring SGs and have not helped this team. Even though Livingston doesnt score like those guys, he was really bad running the second unit and found a niche with his length as a defender.

Nets need to draft a young PG that can run an offense, defend and score a little bit. This second unit has a lot of scoring. Nets need someone to make sure the second unit gets its shots.

[Prokorov]

Out of double teams, on the roll, on the move. Just much smarter and more patient. He's no Duncan or anything but just the fact that he's making teams pay for doubling him is huge. That Joe Johnson 3 would've been Brook taking a contested jumper earlier in the year. No doubt about that.

10000% yes on this. he absolutely takes that jumper earlier in the year. and on alot of those hard doubles he woudl turn it over.

Jack and Plumlee need to find that chemistry again. We need their punch off the bench and Plums seems to get it going defensively/rebounding-wise when he's getting dunks. It's been awhile since we've seen them both get it going.

yea, not sure if plumlee hit a wall or what. his energ is down. maybe playing with team usa plus more minutes has wore on him a bit. hopefully he can get back to being a 10/5 bench big

[624]

Jack was giving me Sundiata Gaines flashbacks last night. Selfish and terrible bbiq

[MGrand15]

I mean, the only reason Brook didn't have a FGA in the 4th is because Jack played nearly the entire 4th. Like Prok said, they paid more attention to Brook - Jack uses that (for better or for worse) to get space for his mid-range game. It's not like Brook was invisible out there. Or not having any plays called for him. Didn't really have a problem with it. Hollins just needed to go to Deron earlier. Sitting him with 3 minutes left in the 3rd and bringing him back with 5 left in the 4th is too long of a break. Not a fan of it for multiple reasons.

I would have let Deron play with 5 fouls. Jack hit some big shots but his tunnel vision was maddening

In reality, the end of games i prefer what we saw: Joe/Brook two man game. There is no reason to have Jack out there chucking away like that.

Honestly, I really think Hollins just wanted to end the game with Jack. He even took Alan Anderson out when Deron returned instead of Jack - even though AA was red hot and a much better defender.