ImageImageImage

CHA @ MIA - APRIL 7th - 7:30PM Dragic didn't get the memo

Moderators: KingDavid, heat4life, MettaWorldPanda, Wiltside, IggieCC, BFRESH44, QUIZ

User avatar
BaffLer
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,122
And1: 9,393
Joined: Apr 24, 2013
Location: Beyond
 

Re: CHA @ MIA - APRIL 7th - 7:30PM Dragic didn't get the memo 

Post#501 » by BaffLer » Wed Apr 8, 2015 8:50 am

PaulieWal wrote:Would you rather have a broken dick with Abella Anderson


Spoiler:
Do you remember when that gif was circling around? Good God that was bad.

And no, please don't ask for it if anyone is wondering.


Image
User avatar
QUIZ
Forum Mod - Heat
Forum Mod - Heat
Posts: 32,014
And1: 78,769
Joined: Feb 02, 2014
Location: South Florida
Contact:
 

Re: CHA @ MIA - APRIL 7th - 7:30PM Dragic didn't get the memo 

Post#502 » by QUIZ » Wed Apr 8, 2015 11:10 am

3ballbomber wrote:
qjz123 wrote:
GameTime_3 wrote:LOL At some of you calling Wade's hero ball out...Yes, he does it. Yes he takes some dumb shots but he is put on an island and at age 33, he goes to what he has always tried to do; long jumper. The issue isn't Wade, its the fact that we keep asking a 33 yr old SG to go ISO all 4th qt and bring it home. As of late, Goran has had a few good late games...Guess what? Teams are double and 3 teaming Wade because they know its Wade or bust on offense. Today late in the game we ran a few great SETS where the team was moving. The ball was moving. It resulted in a Deng jumper and a few Goran layups. Thats BASKETBALL, not the crap we run 99% of the time. If we ran a good system, we wouldn't be wondering if we were making the playoffs, we woudl be wondering who we would be playing. It pathetic that were in this position. Even with injury's this team HAS ENOUGH but were not getting everything out of the talent we have, we are just hoping that Wade has enough left, which is why were 9th. Every game matter and Detriot game is the perfect example of why, we struggle and why I can't get over how bad this team has been lead this year.

At 32.5% Wade has the 2nd highest usage percentage in the league. He's 2nd only to Westbrook… scary stuff. We've been riding him hard all year. When he's on he's a hero like the Portland game and when he's not suddenly he's playing too much hero ball according to people.

this is why i'd much rather us shut down players. I'd much rather Wade be 100% nxt season than be 90% out there w/ risk of worsening or even ending his season w/ an injury. But if he is choosing to fight then i support that fighting spirit.

In regards to hero ball.....i think we have a right to critic the last couple of games simply because he is playing hurt out there for the most part. Down 1 and resorts to a 3? to me that's indicative of the fact he had no legs to even attempt a drive as he is playing not 100% out there - so that wasn't only hero ball but it was stupidity. I love Wade and his hero ball man but that was something else all together.

As GameTime_3 stated we're putting the 33 year old Dwyane Wade on an Island, begging him to save us most nights. The whole taking a 3 rather than driving is not new. He's done that all through his career. I remember game 3 vs Boston during the 09-10 season. The score was tied, Wade ran down the shot clock and took a contested 3 from the top of the arc he ended up missing the shot. He was suffering from terrible back spasms and it was all that he could get. He ended up having to sit the final possession and well Paul Pierce his a midrange Jumpshot for the win.
Don’t let us get one. — Nikola Jovic

Dru Smith very lucky he got that 500k this year. He should invest and manage a subway after all this-MettaWorldPanda
User avatar
Mugiwara
Starter
Posts: 2,400
And1: 2,692
Joined: Jun 28, 2013
     

Re: CHA @ MIA - APRIL 7th - 7:30PM Dragic didn't get the memo 

Post#503 » by Mugiwara » Wed Apr 8, 2015 12:18 pm

They would've choked this one too if it werent for dragic

usually he disappears in 2nd halfs. What a bad timing dude
User avatar
FlashFlare
RealGM
Posts: 10,014
And1: 30,615
Joined: Jun 27, 2012
Location: Tokyo
   

Re: CHA @ MIA - APRIL 7th - 7:30PM Dragic didn't get the memo 

Post#504 » by FlashFlare » Wed Apr 8, 2015 1:17 pm

there's no point making the playoffs with a battered, injury riddled team just to get swept by the Hawks or Cavs. face it, we're not beating them, not even one game, at our current state. Wade deserves to be in the playoffs, but if it's just for 4 games, what's the point?

the draft pick is an asset, either use it on a young player. who knows we might get our own Kawhi Leonard? not saying there's that caliber player who could be available at 9-10, but you never know. the fact is the Spurs have been able to stay afloat because they've infused young exciting talented players to their core. and we should do the same. even if you don't see a player you like in the draft, you can always trade it for someone.

especially since we don't have any picks for the next billion years lmao

I'd rather that than making the playoffs, or hell, trying to make the playoffs, not make it, but not be bad enough to keep our pick. it's just the smart thing to do at this point... TANK

then we blow this **** league up next year with Bosh and McBob back 8-)
Image
100% WADEaboo
User avatar
QUIZ
Forum Mod - Heat
Forum Mod - Heat
Posts: 32,014
And1: 78,769
Joined: Feb 02, 2014
Location: South Florida
Contact:
 

Re: CHA @ MIA - APRIL 7th - 7:30PM Dragic didn't get the memo 

Post#505 » by QUIZ » Wed Apr 8, 2015 2:00 pm

FlashFlare wrote:there's no point making the playoffs with a battered, injury riddled team just to get swept by the Hawks or Cavs. face it, we're not beating them, not even one game, at our current state. Wade deserves to be in the playoffs, but if it's just for 4 games, what's the point?

the draft pick is an asset, either use it on a young player. who knows we might get our own Kawhi Leonard? not saying there's that caliber player who could be available at 9-10, but you never know. the fact is the Spurs have been able to stay afloat because they've infused young exciting talented players to their core. and we should do the same. even if you don't see a player you like in the draft, you can always trade it for someone.

especially since we don't have any picks for the next billion years lmao

I'd rather that than making the playoffs, or hell, trying to make the playoffs, not make it, but not be bad enough to keep our pick. it's just the smart thing to do at this point... TANK

then we blow this **** league up next year with Bosh and McBob back 8-)

You'd basically be asking these guys to purposely lose. UD is a warrior, Wade is giving it all he's got, Dragic wants to make the playoffs more than anything and you want these guys to What? Give up? You want Dwyane Wade and Udonis Haslem to stop fighting so that the Heat can draft some kid? How does that conversation even go. Wade, Udonis, Goran we're shutting you down for the season. Why because there's this 19 year old that we think can be pretty good so please guys can you just stop trying. It doesn't work that way. Not in Miami at least. Also as another poster said if we keep our draft pick this year we won't be able to trade away another 1st rounder until 2023! As things currently stand if we lose our pick this year we'd still be able to trade away our 2019 pick.
Don’t let us get one. — Nikola Jovic

Dru Smith very lucky he got that 500k this year. He should invest and manage a subway after all this-MettaWorldPanda
User avatar
Sign5
Head Coach
Posts: 7,134
And1: 10,463
Joined: Sep 27, 2011

Re: CHA @ MIA - APRIL 7th - 7:30PM Dragic didn't get the memo 

Post#506 » by Sign5 » Wed Apr 8, 2015 3:34 pm

The point is as it stands, the Heat are on pace to miss out on the playoffs AND their pick. I'm not sure why people think some are saying they'd rather tank than make the playoffs, that's not the case. Heat's destiny are basically in other team's hands and Indiana will definitely make the playoffs, (we a blew 3 obtainable games that would have almost secured our spot at 7th). That leaves Boston/Brooklyn who are on a roll.

Basically some of you are saying make all the effort to make the playoffs to ultimately miss out on it and their pick because that is what will happen. I'm saying since Heat are very unlikely to make the playoffs then they might as well obtain their pick, get everyone healthy and be contenders next season.
User avatar
QUIZ
Forum Mod - Heat
Forum Mod - Heat
Posts: 32,014
And1: 78,769
Joined: Feb 02, 2014
Location: South Florida
Contact:
 

Re: CHA @ MIA - APRIL 7th - 7:30PM Dragic didn't get the memo 

Post#507 » by QUIZ » Wed Apr 8, 2015 3:47 pm

Sign5 wrote:The point is as it stands, the Heat are on pace to miss out on the playoffs AND their pick. I'm not sure why people think some are saying they'd rather tank than make the playoffs, that's not the case. Heat's destiny are basically in other team's hands and Indiana will definitely make the playoffs, (we a blew 3 obtainable games that would have almost secured our spot at 7th). That leaves Boston/Brooklyn who are on a roll.

Basically some of you are saying make all the effort to make the playoffs to ultimately miss out on it and their pick because that is what will happen. I'm saying since Heat are very unlikely to make the playoffs then they might as well obtain their pick, get everyone healthy and be contenders next season.

Again thats easy to say as a fan… but what about the players? They're competitors who aren't going to just stop trying. They want this.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/IraHeatBeat/status/585611804577005570[/tweet]
Don’t let us get one. — Nikola Jovic

Dru Smith very lucky he got that 500k this year. He should invest and manage a subway after all this-MettaWorldPanda
GameTime_3
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 18,480
And1: 4,051
Joined: Sep 20, 2004
Location: Earth
Contact:

Re: CHA @ MIA - APRIL 7th - 7:30PM Dragic didn't get the memo 

Post#508 » by GameTime_3 » Wed Apr 8, 2015 3:48 pm

qjz123 wrote:
3ballbomber wrote:
qjz123 wrote:At 32.5% Wade has the 2nd highest usage percentage in the league. He's 2nd only to Westbrook… scary stuff. We've been riding him hard all year. When he's on he's a hero like the Portland game and when he's not suddenly he's playing too much hero ball according to people.

this is why i'd much rather us shut down players. I'd much rather Wade be 100% nxt season than be 90% out there w/ risk of worsening or even ending his season w/ an injury. But if he is choosing to fight then i support that fighting spirit.

In regards to hero ball.....i think we have a right to critic the last couple of games simply because he is playing hurt out there for the most part. Down 1 and resorts to a 3? to me that's indicative of the fact he had no legs to even attempt a drive as he is playing not 100% out there - so that wasn't only hero ball but it was stupidity. I love Wade and his hero ball man but that was something else all together.

As GameTime_3 stated we're putting the 33 year old Dwyane Wade on an Island, begging him to save us most nights. The whole taking a 3 rather than driving is not new. He's done that all through his career. I remember game 3 vs Boston during the 09-10 season. The score was tied, Wade ran down the shot clock and took a contested 3 from the top of the arc he ended up missing the shot. He was suffering from terrible back spasms and it was all that he could get. He ended up having to sit the final possession and well Paul Pierce his a midrange Jumpshot for the win.


Can Wade do more at times to increase ball movement? Yes. But on the final 2 plays of the Detriot game(You could look at the whole qt) but the last 2 plays, Wade took DUMB DUMB shots..But guess what? No a single other player was moving. The set was for Wade to be on an island. Injuries are a good excuse..But if you watch the Detroit game(Don't look at the excuse machine or the injury report), you can see that we had more talent than the other team. We had everything we needed and like numerous other games, when the Pistons started to double Wade and play D, our offense had ZERO idea of what to do. It was like a team of kids at the local JCC. There was no movement, no good sets and zero easy shots. Yes once the game is over, its easy to ignore everything you saw and jump on the "If we were healthy" excuse but guess what, that wasn't the reaosn why we lost. If healthy would we of won, more than likly. But that game and many others didn't come down to injury bug but it came down to the lack of offense and game planning during the game. Big picture; Injury are the biggest reason. But if you micro this system by game, there are other reason, which include the lack of coaching were seeing. A season is made up of alot of things; Injuries, Dumb decision by players, Refs, Bad bounces, Emotion and the list goes on. Injuries are a huge part but when you revert to that every time, your ignoring the other reason why we are not in the playoffs right now. Few things people can criticize and should be able to see improvement. Injuries are not one of them. They happen to every team! But bad coaching, terrible officiating, bad signing, etc are fair game and while we expect our players to be the BEST at what they do, as fans we should expect from everyone else associated to the game.
User avatar
HIF
RealGM
Posts: 15,844
And1: 6,855
Joined: Mar 31, 2004
Location: France
         

Re: CHA @ MIA - APRIL 7th - 7:30PM Dragic didn't get the memo 

Post#509 » by HIF » Wed Apr 8, 2015 4:58 pm

Don't think this win will make too much difference. We are going to be playing teams with a reason to win in our next 2 games whilst others aren't.

Nets Pacers take the last 2 spots in my book.
I remember when the Dolphins were perennial contenders

Only Fans are Heatlifers. I am a Heatlifer :banghead:
User avatar
gom
Heat forum: Expert Predictor
Posts: 18,615
And1: 42,715
Joined: May 30, 2014
Location: Earth-616
   

Re: CHA @ MIA - APRIL 7th - 7:30PM Dragic didn't get the memo 

Post#510 » by gom » Wed Apr 8, 2015 5:02 pm

HIF wrote:Don't think this win will make too much difference. We are going to be playing teams with a reason to win in our next 2 games whilst others aren't.

Nets Pacers take the last 2 spots in my book.


I agree with you, except that I think the Celtics will beat out the Pacers.
Image
I remember 11-30 with these guys. ^

Return to Miami Heat