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Re: The Devin Booker Thread 

Post#61 » by JDR720 » Sun May 17, 2015 3:47 am

yosemiteben wrote:He's going to be glued to the bench James Young style no matter who drafts him, let's not act like that is unique to Cliff.

I actually think Booker would play decent minutes if we got him, 15-20mpg. I think Johnson or Hezonja would play around those minutes too.
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Re: The Devin Booker Thread 

Post#62 » by Eoghan » Sun May 17, 2015 4:07 am

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BrotherDave wrote:I can't shake the fear of him glued to the bench or thrust into the Gary Neal green light role. I have little faith this kid would work out for us, unfortunately.

Why on earth would you fear that???




(Reggie Williams, PJ Hairiston, Ben Gordon, Gary Neal, Matt Carroll, Eddie House, Adam Morrisson, Kareem Rush, Lance Stephenson, Jeff Taylor)


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Let's see.

Turtle (Midget)
PJ (knucklehead)
The Humbler (midget/knucklehead)
Green Light Gary (midget)
Hammer (unathletic white guy)
House (midget)
Ammo (really unathletic white guy)
Rush (knucklehead)
Lance (knucklehead)
Taylor (knucklehead apparently)

So I guess if Booker is neither a midget or knucklehead, he might actually pan out. At least he measured out past the midget, combo guard size it seems but he still feels close. I want a 6'9" SG whose favorite hobby is knitting sweaters just to break the cycle.
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Post#63 » by DY_nasty » Sun May 17, 2015 4:58 am

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LofJ wrote:Honestly, considering our needs and the fact that he's even friends with MKG I can't find much to dislike about him.

How about the fact he's not very good at creating his own shot, at all, and we don't really have anyone who is great at creating shots for others?


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Good call, he definitely hasn't shown the ability to create offense for others off the dribble. That said from what games I did watch of Kentucky this year he seemed pretty capable of creating separation to get his shot off and he's fantastic at getting open off the ball. His Dad played point and he played that position in HS, but from what I've read he's never been effective at creating offense for his teammates. If we draft him that's the number one thing we need to work on with him.

He played for Kentucky. There were literally 4 other 1st rounders on the court with him at any given moment. And he didn't stand out over any of them. That's why I don't think he's worth looking at in the top 10.

I mean, yeah, he can get separation - but who couldn't on that stacked team? Who are you going to cheat off on when you play Kentucky? The guy can barely put the ball on the floor as is, he won't be creating for anyone in the NBA any time soon. I like him, but not stand-pat at #9 and draft him when he'll be around 11-15 most likely. And I say this as the guy who was talking about Booker here long before it was fashionable.

He COULD be good. He could also be Courtney Alexander if he doesn't see his potential explode in any area. He has a good release, he finishes soft though. He's strong, he doesn't understand NBA level off-ball movement though. He's strong and could possibly have an elite frame underneath all the baby fat, can't handle the ball any better than Oubre.

I don't really get excited when players say that they like other players either. I mean its cool but it rarely has anything to do with a successful on-court product.
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yosemiteben wrote:He's going to be glued to the bench James Young style no matter who drafts him, let's not act like that is unique to Cliff.

I actually think Booker would play decent minutes if we got him, 15-20mpg. I think Johnson or Hezonja would play around those minutes too.

man no. PJ couldn't see the court when Gary Neal was shooting in the wrong direction. I don't like any SG in this draft over PJ either tbqh.

dude had some of the most inconsistent minutes on the entire roster and people were surprised when he played inconsistent to match

you can't do that to established vet shooters in the league, of course a rookie was gonna play like trash in those circumstances
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Re: The Devin Booker Thread 

Post#64 » by JDR720 » Sun May 17, 2015 5:23 am

PJ was the 26th pick and was stuck behind Gerald, Neal and Lance. Neal isn't here anymore and I wouldn't be surprised if both Lance and Gerald are gone too. PJ also kept doing dumb stuff off the court like punching high school kids and being late for practice which got him into Cliffs dog house.

Booker is the best fit for us in our range besides Hezonja but I would still place him 3rd on my list behind Hezonja and Johnson.

I doubt that Bookers shooting can override everything else that Johnson is better at like defense,rebounding, scoring etc.

his ceiling isn't very high and his floor is something like Anthony Morrow.
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Post#65 » by DY_nasty » Sun May 17, 2015 5:47 am

JDR720 wrote:PJ was the 26th pick and was stuck behind Gerald, Neal and Lance. Neal isn't here anymore and I wouldn't be surprised if both Lance and Gerald are gone too. PJ also kept doing dumb stuff off the court like punching high school kids and being late for practice which got him into Cliffs dog house.

Booker is the best fit for us in our range besides Hezonja but I would still place him 3rd on my list behind Hezonja and Johnson.

I doubt that Bookers shooting can override everything else that Johnson is better at like defense,rebounding, scoring etc.

his ceiling isn't very high and his floor is something like Anthony Morrow.
JT was getting minutes after actually serving a suspension unlike PJ so its not like there's actual standards in place on this team

cliffs dog house doesn't even make sense because biyombo was in it

you just can't say that any SG other than gerald is going to get a consistent role, minutes, or usage on this team. no point in drafting another one who doesn't do much of anything better than the first one we drafted (that would've probably been the 1st SG off the board last year if he stayed in college) in the top 10
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Re: The Devin Booker Thread 

Post#66 » by JDR720 » Sun May 17, 2015 7:15 am

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Post#67 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun May 17, 2015 7:34 am

The mere thought of Hairston being a top 10 pick makes me cringe.
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Post#68 » by BeesWax » Sun May 17, 2015 1:53 pm

If it wasn't for the off court stuff he very well might have been.
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Post#69 » by EwingSweatsALot » Sun May 17, 2015 2:07 pm

CHICKS LICK THIS KIDS CAR! If Hezonja is gone, this is the guy who I want.
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Post#70 » by DY_nasty » Sun May 17, 2015 4:09 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:The mere thought of Hairston being a top 10 pick makes me cringe.

its kinda silly how every single person on team aside from biz, zeller, and mkg can play poorly this year and have it chalked up to coaching or just a bad year for the team except hairston

just don't like the idea of taking a prospect that isn't at least a better prospect than he was in the top 10. if we trade back, sure
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Post#71 » by yosemiteben » Sun May 17, 2015 5:14 pm

Yeah I agree the Hairston hate is odd. He performed about the same as a couple lotto picks (McD and Nik) but IMO showed some nice D and athleticism that makes me a little more optimistic in his potential. I'm pretty excited about him going forward.
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Re: The Devin Booker Thread 

Post#72 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun May 17, 2015 5:20 pm

When do teams begin working players out typically?
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Post#73 » by BeesWax » Sun May 17, 2015 10:28 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Yeah I agree the Hairston hate is odd. He performed about the same as a couple lotto picks (McD and Nik) but IMO showed some nice D and athleticism that makes me a little more optimistic in his potential. I'm pretty excited about him going forward.

Agreed. Zeller was hot garbage for half his rookie year then just regular garbage for the other despite getting regular minutes and he was defended tooth and nail. Hairston showed flashes of being a solid defender and a guy who could get points and he is bashed. Makes you wonder why?

I do think Booker fits well with MKG and Hairston here on the wing. Hairston and MKG can both play either spot and Fit in with Booker. I think barring luck this is a perfect selection for us.
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Re: The Devin Booker Thread 

Post#74 » by yosemiteben » Sun May 17, 2015 11:09 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:When do teams begin working players out typically?

Good question. I wish there was a database that tracked where players workout, both in the current draft and in past drafts.
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Post#75 » by LofJ » Sun May 17, 2015 11:30 pm

Our first draft pick ever was a shooting guard from Kentucky. It would be fitting if our first lottery pick as the Hornets again ends up being another shooting guard from Kentucky. Funnily enough that could apply to both Booker and Russell (who is from Louisville).
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Post#76 » by InProblematique » Sun May 17, 2015 11:48 pm

LofJ wrote:Our first draft pick ever was a shooting guard from Kentucky. It would be fitting if our first lottery pick as the Hornets again ends up being another shooting guard from Kentucky. Funnily enough that could apply to both Booker and Russell (who is from Louisville).

Vonleh was our first lottery pick as the Hornets 2.0.
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Post#77 » by LofJ » Sun May 17, 2015 11:50 pm

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LofJ wrote:Our first draft pick ever was a shooting guard from Kentucky. It would be fitting if our first lottery pick as the Hornets again ends up being another shooting guard from Kentucky. Funnily enough that could apply to both Booker and Russell (who is from Louisville).

Vonleh was our first lottery pick as the Hornets 2.0.


That was Detroit's pick, our pick was used on Nurkic and wasn't a lottery pick.
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The Devin Booker Thread 

Post#78 » by BigSlam » Mon May 18, 2015 3:07 am

yosemiteben wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:When do teams begin working players out typically?

Good question. I wish there was a database that tracked where players without, both in the current draft and in past drafts.

DX used to have the team clubhouse directory that listed that information.

Not there any more?


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Re: The Devin Booker Thread 

Post#79 » by Eoghan » Mon May 18, 2015 3:33 am

During the draft combine I think it was Ford that said that Booker was the best shooter in the draft and Fran Fischella about fell out of his chair in disagreement, saying Hezonja was the best.
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Re: The Devin Booker Thread 

Post#80 » by -Ian- » Wed May 20, 2015 3:33 am

I want Devin Booker.

I believe in the mantra "draft for talent, trade for need" but there's no way other teams are going to trade away shooters without Charlotte giving away too much.

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