OT: Leafs Hire Mike Babcock as HC 8yr/50M

[Asif16]

Holland told media in Detroit on Wednesday that his final offer to Babcock on Tuesday was a five-year term. one more year than he had presented his longtime employee last June and in January.

"I couldn't justify going past five years," he said. "We've only won one playoff round in four years. We had bigger goals than to make the playoffs, so to wake up two, three years from now, if we're not able to take this program to the next level, then everybody starts looking at options [elsewhere]."

So, in other words babcock has gotten the redwings in to the playoffs those 4 years, while wining a round. Thats all we are hoping for the as leafs fans .

Become and constant playoff threat and then go from there.

[vaff87]

Lmao Mike Babcock isnt overrated.

Your whole post just lost its validity with that stupid comment. I didnt even read the rest.

He absolutely is. People are comparing him to Gregg frigging Popovich, which is an absolute joke.

Comparing him to Gregg Popovich doesnt make Babcock overrated lmao cmon now.

Theres no point of comparing him to Popovich anyways. Fact still remains that Mike Babcock is currently the Best, if not top 3, hockey coaches in the world today. His resume speaks for himself. Not only in the NHL, but for team canada as well.

You seem mad because people are just comparing him to Popovich. Its 2 different sports. He might as well be the closest popovich we have in the NHL. it doesnt take waya antyhing from Popovich himself

People comparing him to Popovich DOES make him overrated. I'm not saying he's not a good coach. You can be both good and overrated. I honestly think there are a half dozen coaches in the league on his level though.

[Asif16]

He absolutely is. People are comparing him to Gregg frigging Popovich, which is an absolute joke.

Comparing him to Gregg Popovich doesnt make Babcock overrated lmao cmon now.

Theres no point of comparing him to Popovich anyways. Fact still remains that Mike Babcock is currently the Best, if not top 3, hockey coaches in the world today. His resume speaks for himself. Not only in the NHL, but for team canada as well.

You seem mad because people are just comparing him to Popovich. Its 2 different sports. He might as well be the closest popovich we have in the NHL. it doesnt take waya antyhing from Popovich himself

People comparing him to Popovich DOES make him overrated. I'm not saying he's not a good coach. You can be both good and overrated. I honestly think there are a half dozen coaches in the league on his level though.

You think there are a half dozen coaches in the NHL on his level?? Yeah lets just end it there because i completely disagree.

Btw how big of a hockey fan are you and how long have you been watching the NHL?

[Raps in 4]

Dumb. My friends who are Red Wings fans didn't care if he left. 8 years is absurd.

Don't be thick. He's easily one of the best coaches in hockey today.

I'm not saying he's not. It still doesn't make sense for the Leafs to hire him for 8 years in their current position.

Why not? Would you be upset if the Raptors offered Popovich an 8 year deal?

[Wo1verine]

Leafs young stars gonna shine now. Hopefully this means no more lazy players. Players need to be held accountable and what better coach than Mike Babcock?

Hopefully Kessel/Bozak/Lupul/Phaneuf all traded. Maybe even Gardiner. I dont like him as a player tbh. Too soft and lackadaisical.

Reilly
Percy
Nylander
Hanifin/Marner
Kadri
Brown

Run with these players. And the players you get back from the Kessel/Lupul/Bozak/Phaneuf trades.

I love me some Hanifin, which is why i hope the Leafs draft Marner

Im hoping its Marner too. His skill set is off the charts. Marner has more potential to be a game breaker too.

Marner has the skill set to be the next right handed version of Patrick Kane if everything goes right. Which rarely ever does lol...

True enough.. I am obviously not saying Marner isn't going to be good, just prefer Hanifin as i think he's the next franchise d-man for years to come.
It's not often you see a d-man with his fantastic skating and offensive skill + size 6' 2"/200 lbs and will only get bigger.
Looked really good when playing for Team USA at the WJC
If Leafs trade Dion, they may look for a future replacement in Hanifin.

[OakleyDokely]

Nobody should be concerned about what any Toronto sports coach makes because it doesn't count against the cap. I guess until you see your cable bill go up 5%.

[Asif16]

I love me some Hanifin, which is why i hope the Leafs draft Marner

Im hoping its Marner too. His skill set is off the charts. Marner has more potential to be a game breaker too.

Marner has the skill set to be the next right handed version of Patrick Kane if everything goes right. Which rarely ever does lol...

True enough.. I am obviously not saying Marner isn't going to be good, just prefer Hanifin as i think he's the next franchise d-man for years to come.
It's not often you see a d-man with his fantastic skating and offensive skill + size.
Looked good when playing for Team USA at the WJC.
If Leafs trade Dion, they may look for a future replacement in Hanifin.

True. I guess either way you cant go wrong.

[BrunoSkull]

Leafs young stars gonna shine now. Hopefully this means no more lazy players. Players need to be held accountable and what better coach than Mike Babcock?

Hopefully Kessel/Bozak/Lupul/Phaneuf all traded. Maybe even Gardiner. I dont like him as a player tbh. Too soft and lackadaisical.

Reilly
Percy
Nylander
Hanifin/Marner
Kadri
Brown

Run with these players. And the players you get back from the Kessel/Lupul/Bozak/Phaneuf trades.

I love me some Hanifin, which is why i hope the Leafs draft Marner

Right on fam and I hope to god the leafs don't draft Strome. He's too slow.

[vaff87]

Comparing him to Gregg Popovich doesnt make Babcock overrated lmao cmon now.

Theres no point of comparing him to Popovich anyways. Fact still remains that Mike Babcock is currently the Best, if not top 3, hockey coaches in the world today. His resume speaks for himself. Not only in the NHL, but for team canada as well.

You seem mad because people are just comparing him to Popovich. Its 2 different sports. He might as well be the closest popovich we have in the NHL. it doesnt take waya antyhing from Popovich himself

People comparing him to Popovich DOES make him overrated. I'm not saying he's not a good coach. You can be both good and overrated. I honestly think there are a half dozen coaches in the league on his level though.

You think there are a half dozen coaches in the NHL on his level?? Yeah lets just end it there because i completely disagree.

Btw how big of a hockey fan are you and how long have you been watching the NHL?

Since around 1992.

And yes: Joel Quennville, Ken Hitchcock, Claude Julien, Alain Vignault, Darryl Sutter, Peter Laviolette, etc.

Mike Babcock is in and around the same level as those guys.

[DreamTeam09]

In terms of allure and stature, he's number one by far and definitely is on pops level or equivalent in that right. This is more than just Xs n Os but what he brings is the clout and connections and in that right he's definitely best choice. He's definitely the top rated coach in the NHL

[vaff87]

Don't be thick. He's easily one of the best coaches in hockey today.

I'm not saying he's not. It still doesn't make sense for the Leafs to hire him for 8 years in their current position.

Why not? Would you be upset if the Raptors offered Popovich an 8 year deal?

This guy is nowhere close to Popovich. And Popovich will retire well within 8 years.

[Potential]

Hockey isn't a sport

[Yosemite Dan]

Comparing him to Gregg Popovich doesnt make Babcock overrated lmao cmon now.

Theres no point of comparing him to Popovich anyways. Fact still remains that Mike Babcock is currently the Best, if not top 3, hockey coaches in the world today. His resume speaks for himself. Not only in the NHL, but for team canada as well.

You seem mad because people are just comparing him to Popovich. Its 2 different sports. He might as well be the closest popovich we have in the NHL. it doesnt take waya antyhing from Popovich himself

People comparing him to Popovich DOES make him overrated. I'm not saying he's not a good coach. You can be both good and overrated. I honestly think there are a half dozen coaches in the league on his level though.

You think there are a half dozen coaches in the NHL on his level?? Yeah lets just end it there because i completely disagree.

Btw how big of a hockey fan are you and how long have you been watching the NHL?

Ken Hitchcock, Alain Vignealt, Darryl Sutter, Joel Quennville, Claude Julien, Bruce Boudreau,. This is just off the top of my head. All these coaches have had more playoff and regular season success in the last 5 years and 3 have won cups while Babcock won his only cup 7 years ago. Don't forget Randy Carlyle has also won a Cup. Didn't help.

Babcock is a good coach but he is not a Popovich, gimme a break. He has one playoff round win in the last 4 years. He won 2 gold medals but let's be honest, any half decent coach would have done the same with a star studded Canadian squad. All you have to do is say "go out and play".

He'll last 4 or 5 years before he's gone. There is a severe abesence of talent on the Leafs that even he can't fix. And he'll be good enough to get the Leafs to 9th or 10th in the conference next year which is the worst thing that could happen because they will get middle of the road draft picks and never increase thier talent. This is gonna be a classic treadmill team. The managment team is terrible for the Leafs so it's not like they can bring talent in via trade. Remember how Brian Burke was the savoir? That didn't work out too well

[BramptonYute]

He absolutely is. People are comparing him to Gregg frigging Popovich, which is an absolute joke.

Comparing him to Gregg Popovich doesnt make Babcock overrated lmao cmon now.

Theres no point of comparing him to Popovich anyways. Fact still remains that Mike Babcock is currently the Best, if not top 3, hockey coaches in the world today. His resume speaks for himself. Not only in the NHL, but for team canada as well.

You seem mad because people are just comparing him to Popovich. Its 2 different sports. He might as well be the closest popovich we have in the NHL. it doesnt take waya antyhing from Popovich himself

People comparing him to Popovich DOES make him overrated. I'm not saying he's not a good coach. You can be both good and overrated. I honestly think there are a half dozen coaches in the league on his level though.

Vigneault, Qunneville, Sutter and maybe Trotz are guys I see on his level/above him. He's a top 5 coach in the league though.

[Asif16]

People comparing him to Popovich DOES make him overrated. I'm not saying he's not a good coach. You can be both good and overrated. I honestly think there are a half dozen coaches in the league on his level though.

You think there are a half dozen coaches in the NHL on his level?? Yeah lets just end it there because i completely disagree.

Btw how big of a hockey fan are you and how long have you been watching the NHL?

Since around 1992.

And yes: Joel Quennville, Ken Hitchcock, Claude Julien, Alain Vignault, Darryl Sutter, Peter Laviolette, etc.

Mike Babcock is in and around the same level as those guys.

Julien, Vignault, Lavs, Hitchcock are all good coaches but are no where near Babcock

[Asif16]

Comparing him to Gregg Popovich doesnt make Babcock overrated lmao cmon now.

Theres no point of comparing him to Popovich anyways. Fact still remains that Mike Babcock is currently the Best, if not top 3, hockey coaches in the world today. His resume speaks for himself. Not only in the NHL, but for team canada as well.

You seem mad because people are just comparing him to Popovich. Its 2 different sports. He might as well be the closest popovich we have in the NHL. it doesnt take waya antyhing from Popovich himself

People comparing him to Popovich DOES make him overrated. I'm not saying he's not a good coach. You can be both good and overrated. I honestly think there are a half dozen coaches in the league on his level though.

Vigneault, Qunneville, Sutter and maybe Trotz are guys I see on his level/above him. He's a top 5 coach in the league though.

Q and Sutter yes.

Trotz is no where near Babcock. Holy **** give me a break.

[DG88]

The Leafs throwing money at the wall and hoping for things to change, business as usual at MLSE.

[BramptonYute]

People comparing him to Popovich DOES make him overrated. I'm not saying he's not a good coach. You can be both good and overrated. I honestly think there are a half dozen coaches in the league on his level though.

Vigneault, Qunneville, Sutter and maybe Trotz are guys I see on his level/above him. He's a top 5 coach in the league though.

Q and Sutter yes.

Trotz is no where near Babcock. Holy **** give me a break.

He did a lot in Nashville. But I guess its fair to not consider him at the same level as Babcock.

And for what has Babcock done in the playoffs compared to others, look at the roster has, and look at what Sutter, Qunneville, Vigneault and even Boudrea has had. The last 5 years, the Wings we're just bubble teams. Hell, they werent even expected to make the playoffs last year with all the injuries they have. Babcock is a great coach.

[Yosemite Dan]

You think there are a half dozen coaches in the NHL on his level?? Yeah lets just end it there because i completely disagree.

Btw how big of a hockey fan are you and how long have you been watching the NHL?

Since around 1992.

And yes: Joel Quennville, Ken Hitchcock, Claude Julien, Alain Vignault, Darryl Sutter, Peter Laviolette, etc.

Mike Babcock is in and around the same level as those guys.

Julien, Vignault, Lavs, Hitchcock are all good coaches but are no where near Babcock

Actually 3 of those 4 are above him based on actual success in the last 4 years. If you can tell me what Babcock has achieved in the last 5 years besides coaching the best country in the world in hockey talent for a couple of weeks then I'm all ears.

[Yosemite Dan]

The Leafs throwing money at the wall and hoping for things to change, business as usual at MLSE.

This. it's gonna end badly. Especially when it appears Babock simply went to Toronto because of the money. He's gonna find out real quick what kind of disjointed management team the Leafs have.