FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread

[beasonu]

When did Ty Lawson become this great player that is enticing to everyone?

He averaged almost 20/10 last season

He isn't a winner
He isn't aggressive

He is not a guy you want trust me

[Thorn]

Lakers are up for trading the number 2 pick for a veteran, who could help them win now.

“If you came across something that made your team better quicker, it would probably be a veteran, then that’s something you would consider,” Kupchak said, “but there’s something to be said for having the No. 2 pick in terms of building going forward.”

Get 'er done Phil!!!

viewtopic.php?f=415&t=1389641&p=43743689#p43743689

[92Knicksfan93]

If Denver wants Mudiay, they should leave out Lawson and start the bidding at Calderon + #4 for Nurkic, #7, and Gallo/Wilson.

If I was Dolan I would fire Phil Jackson if he made a deal with Denver and we didn't get both Lawson and the 7th pick back. I want no part of Danilo Gallinari. I wasn't a fan of his back in the day, and I sure as hell won't be a fan of his going forward. Always injured. He teases you until he struggles or gets hurt.

[Knicks218]

Lakers are up for trading the number 2 pick for a veteran, who could help them win now.

“If you came across something that made your team better quicker, it would probably be a veteran, then that’s something you would consider,” Kupchak said, “but there’s something to be said for having the No. 2 pick in terms of building going forward.”

Get 'er done Phil!!!

viewtopic.php?f=415&t=1389641&p=43743689#p43743689

I'm down with Melo to Lakers for #2, I like Melo but hes going to be 31yr coming off knee surgery he's not going to win here his window is closing.

If we were able to sign LMA or Gasol than I would keep Melo but I don't think we are going to be able to land anyone.

[dgwdum]

Lakers are up for trading the number 2 pick for a veteran, who could help them win now.

“If you came across something that made your team better quicker, it would probably be a veteran, then that’s something you would consider,” Kupchak said, “but there’s something to be said for having the No. 2 pick in terms of building going forward.”

Get 'er done Phil!!!

viewtopic.php?f=415&t=1389641&p=43743689#p43743689

I'm down with Melo to Lakers for #2, I like Melo but hes going to be 31yr coming off knee surgery he's not going to win here his window is closing.

If we were able to sign LMA or Gasol than I would keep Melo but I don't think we are going to be able to land anyone.

I'm sure the Lakers are aware that Melo is 31 and breaking down. I'm sure he was referring to someone like Kevin Durant who is younger and in his prime despite these past injuries.

[Thorn]

Lakers are up for trading the number 2 pick for a veteran, who could help them win now.

“If you came across something that made your team better quicker, it would probably be a veteran, then that’s something you would consider,” Kupchak said, “but there’s something to be said for having the No. 2 pick in terms of building going forward.”

Get 'er done Phil!!!

viewtopic.php?f=415&t=1389641&p=43743689#p43743689

I'm down with Melo to Lakers for #2, I like Melo but hes going to be 31yr coming off knee surgery he's not going to win here his window is closing.

If we were able to sign LMA or Gasol than I would keep Melo but I don't think we are going to be able to land anyone.

I am with you, I am not up for gambling on free agency we have a bad reputation (read: Dolan), and are coming off a losing season. Pulling in free agents will be a challenge, make a move to reboot the entire franchise with young homegrown talent.

LA is willing to trade the number 2? We aggressively go after that option then, failing to attempt to acquire that pick for Melo would be outrageous.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Lakers are up for trading the number 2 pick for a veteran, who could help them win now.



Get 'er done Phil!!!

viewtopic.php?f=415&t=1389641&p=43743689#p43743689

I'm down with Melo to Lakers for #2, I like Melo but hes going to be 31yr coming off knee surgery he's not going to win here his window is closing.

If we were able to sign LMA or Gasol than I would keep Melo but I don't think we are going to be able to land anyone.

I am with you, I am not up for gambling on free agency we have a bad reputation (read: Dolan), and are coming off a losing season. Pulling in free agents will be a challenge, make a move to reboot the entire franchise with young homegrown talent.

LA is willing to trade the number 2? We aggressively go after that option then, failing to attempt to acquire that pick for Melo would be outrageous.

sad to say, if carmelo wanted to go to LA, i'd pull the trigger on such a deal too. moving forward with 2 and 4 and a crap ton of cap space would be pretty awesome.

love you, melo. but i do that.

if it weren't for the no-trade clause, i'd have done it already. hahahaha. but this would require a very delicate and uncomfortable conversation that kind of can't even be approached.

[Jeff Van Gully]

oh, and demarre carroll...

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/237971/DeMarre-Carroll-Wont-Need-Surgery-Ahead-Of-Free-Agency

Spoiler:

price of the brick goin' up

[Knicks218]

Lakers are up for trading the number 2 pick for a veteran, who could help them win now.



Get 'er done Phil!!!

viewtopic.php?f=415&t=1389641&p=43743689#p43743689

I'm down with Melo to Lakers for #2, I like Melo but hes going to be 31yr coming off knee surgery he's not going to win here his window is closing.

If we were able to sign LMA or Gasol than I would keep Melo but I don't think we are going to be able to land anyone.

I am with you, I am not up for gambling on free agency we have a bad reputation (read: Dolan), and are coming off a losing season. Pulling in free agents will be a challenge, make a move to reboot the entire franchise with young homegrown talent.

LA is willing to trade the number 2? We aggressively go after that option then, failing to attempt to acquire that pick for Melo would be outrageous.

Yeah I think that's something the Lakers would be interested in, Melo for #2 they can sign Rondo and Love and can another run at the championship before Kobe retires. I actually think if the Lakers were to get Melo and Love Kobe might hold off on retiring so soon because i'm sure he wants to try to pass Jordan on rings even if Kobe isn't the man on the team anymore.

[Knicks218]

Trade Melo for #2, draft Towns and Mudiay and still having cap space to try to sign guys in 2016 sounds like a good plan to me.

Like I said I like Melo but he's not going to win here we are not going to be able to get him the 2nd star and help he needs, I don't see LMA or Gasol coming here I hope they do but I dont see it.

[Thorn]

I'm down with Melo to Lakers for #2, I like Melo but hes going to be 31yr coming off knee surgery he's not going to win here his window is closing.

If we were able to sign LMA or Gasol than I would keep Melo but I don't think we are going to be able to land anyone.

I am with you, I am not up for gambling on free agency we have a bad reputation (read: Dolan), and are coming off a losing season. Pulling in free agents will be a challenge, make a move to reboot the entire franchise with young homegrown talent.

LA is willing to trade the number 2? We aggressively go after that option then, failing to attempt to acquire that pick for Melo would be outrageous.

sad to say, if carmelo wanted to go to LA, i'd pull the trigger on such a deal too. moving forward with 2 and 4 and a crap ton of cap space would be pretty awesome.

love you, melo. but i do that.

if it weren't for the no-trade clause, i'd have done it already. hahahaha. but this would require a very delicate and uncomfortable conversation that kind of can't even be approached.

I do not think it is unreasonable, Melo for the 2nsd pick in the draft. You trade youth and potential for an established star who can contribute at an all star level right now. You would pair him with Kobe... how can you pass that up? Durant for 2? Durant is younger, and I do not see that making as much sense.

Looking at this from Melo's point of view...
1- He and Kobe are good friends.
2- Melo played his best basketball alongsge Kobe on team USA.
3- He and his wife have a strong LA connection.
4- His career is winding down, he already compares himself to LeBron and Wade. He does not want to retire without a ring.
5- If LeBron and Cleveland win this year JR Smith will have a ring, Melo does not want to see that go down either. Beat by JR Smith?
6- LA is a great place for endorsements and other ways to make money.
7- Kobe and Melo short term making a run at rings, long term Melo inherits the city then passes the torch in 5 years to whomever.

From LA's Perspective-
1- Much like NY rebuilding is hard in LA, but LA has endured a lot of this and they still have one of their greatest of all time on their roster and they are paying him A LOT to just "tip his cap" to the crowd and never really contend.
2- Melo is made for LA and has star power, a famous wife, and can generate a lot of buzz.
3- Melo and Kobe teaming up with whomever the two of them can recruit is a great story line, and California the home of Hollywood LOVES a good story with a happy ending.
4- Potentially seeing a Laker great in Kobe tying or passing Jordan's ring count is another amazing story to behold. Something people would talk about for ages on end.
5- With the money Kobe is making now it is hard to rebuild and compete. It is almost impossible to go 50/50 rebuild and contend.
6- Lots and lots of money to be made in staying relevant now, and contending with Kobe. Money talks.

Why it makes sense for Kobe-
1- He wants to tie Jordan or beat him to silence his critics.
2- Kobe is not going to be happy with losing and he is going to chew up a rookie who is not able to get it done from day one.
3- Kobe is not a guy who is happy with "rebuilding" he is not going to be okay with another losing season where he misses the playoffs thus damaging his legacy.
4- Kobe is older, and he needs help. He is amazing but needs to reinvent himself slightly much like Jordan relied more on his fade away than his penetration and elevation towards the end of his career. Kobe needs to preserve his body and Melo can still take some abuse.
5- Adding his friend in Melo gives them a big two, one player away fro ma big three and we have Love available who would help a lot on this team either with spacing or running the offense on the second team. I actually think he would thrive in LA as he was ill used in Cleveland. One does not simply not tell Kevin Love he is now Chris Bosh.

Why it makes sense for the Knicks-
1- Rebuild through youth and the draft, repair past damage done by throwing away first round picks.
2- Rebooting the franchise, now with young players as attracting name free agents will be a challenge after a nightmare season.
3- Teaching younger guys the offense we want to run is easier than teaching old dogs new tricks. JR could not learn the offense same for others, Jordan started running this offense young as did Kobe. The triangle is second nature to them.
4- We are not likely to assemble a team in time to win within Melo's window of opportunity given the challenges in NY, and distinct lack of cap and star power.

[GONYK]

I am with you, I am not up for gambling on free agency we have a bad reputation (read: Dolan), and are coming off a losing season. Pulling in free agents will be a challenge, make a move to reboot the entire franchise with young homegrown talent.

LA is willing to trade the number 2? We aggressively go after that option then, failing to attempt to acquire that pick for Melo would be outrageous.

sad to say, if carmelo wanted to go to LA, i'd pull the trigger on such a deal too. moving forward with 2 and 4 and a crap ton of cap space would be pretty awesome.

love you, melo. but i do that.

if it weren't for the no-trade clause, i'd have done it already. hahahaha. but this would require a very delicate and uncomfortable conversation that kind of can't even be approached.

I do not think it is unreasonable, Melo for the 2nsd pick in the draft. You trade youth and potential for an established star who can contribute at an all star level right now. You would pair him with Kobe... how can you pass that up? Durant for 2? Durant is younger, and I do not see that making as much sense.

Looking at this from Melo's point of view...
1- He and Kobe are good friends.
2- Melo played his best basketball alongsge Kobe on team USA.
3- He and his wife have a strong LA connection.
4- His career is winding down, he already compares himself to LeBron and Wade. He does not want to retire without a ring.
5- If LeBron and Cleveland win this year JR Smith will have a ring, Melo does not want to see that go down either. Beat by JR Smith?
6- LA is a great place for endorsements and other ways to make money.
7- Kobe and Melo short term making a run at rings, long term Melo inherits the city then passes the torch in 5 years to whomever.

From LA's Perspective-
1- Much like NY rebuilding is hard in LA, but LA has endured a lot of this and they still have one of their greatest of all time on their roster and they are paying him A LOT to just "tip his cap" to the crowd and never really contend.
2- Melo is made for LA and has star power, a famous wife, and can generate a lot of buzz.
3- Melo and Kobe teaming up with whomever the two of them can recruit is a great story line, and California the home of Hollywood LOVES a good story with a happy ending.
4- Potentially seeing a Laker great in Kobe tying or passing Jordan's ring count is another amazing story to behold. Something people would talk about for ages on end.
5- With the money Kobe is making now it is hard to rebuild and compete. It is almost impossible to go 50/50 rebuild and contend.
6- Lots and lots of money to be made in staying relevant now, and contending with Kobe. Money talks.

Why it makes sense for Kobe-
1- He wants to tie Jordan or beat him to silence his critics.
2- Kobe is not going to be happy with losing and he is going to chew up a rookie who is not able to get it done from day one.
3- Kobe is not a guy who is happy with "rebuilding" he is not going to be okay with another losing season where he misses the playoffs thus damaging his legacy.
4- Kobe is older, and he needs help. He is amazing but needs to reinvent himself slightly much like Jordan relied more on his fade away than his penetration and elevation towards the end of his career. Kobe needs to preserve his body and Melo can still take some abuse.
5- Adding his friend in Melo gives them a big two, one player away fro ma big three and we have Love available who would help a lot on this team either with spacing or running the offense on the second team. I actually think he would thrive in LA as he was ill used in Cleveland. One does not simply not tell Kevin Love he is now Chris Bosh.

Why it makes sense for the Knicks-
1- Rebuild through youth and the draft, repair past damage done by throwing away first round picks.
2- Rebooting the franchise, now with young players as attracting name free agents will be a challenge after a nightmare season.
3- Teaching younger guys the offense we want to run is easier than teaching old dogs new tricks. JR could not learn the offense same for others, Jordan started running this offense young as did Kobe. The triangle is second nature to them.
4- We are not likely to assemble a team in time to win within Melo's window of opportunity given the challenges in NY, and distinct lack of cap and star power.

If Melo wanted any of that, he'd already be in LA though.

He and Kobe had that talk, and decided that they don't really want to play together.

“They came in at the 25th hour, they swooped in there,’’ Anthony told reporters, according to the New York Post. “It was a great visit. The conversations I had with Kobe was just man to man. We both had to come to reality and say, ‘Is this what we really want?’ And it didn’t happen.

“We’ve been talking for a long time, man, especially this summer, just me and him communicating, and talking and being honest with one another as friends and brothers should be. It was a lot going on there on his behalf and my behalf trying to figure everything out.’

[Jeff Van Gully]

i see knicks benefit. i see laker potential benefit. i see why kobe would like it, but i don't see him playing more than another season. two tops. i don't see why melo uproots his NY empire for that. i think he is ready to retire in NY.

[Knicks218]

I am with you, I am not up for gambling on free agency we have a bad reputation (read: Dolan), and are coming off a losing season. Pulling in free agents will be a challenge, make a move to reboot the entire franchise with young homegrown talent.

LA is willing to trade the number 2? We aggressively go after that option then, failing to attempt to acquire that pick for Melo would be outrageous.

sad to say, if carmelo wanted to go to LA, i'd pull the trigger on such a deal too. moving forward with 2 and 4 and a crap ton of cap space would be pretty awesome.

love you, melo. but i do that.

if it weren't for the no-trade clause, i'd have done it already. hahahaha. but this would require a very delicate and uncomfortable conversation that kind of can't even be approached.

I do not think it is unreasonable, Melo for the 2nsd pick in the draft. You trade youth and potential for an established star who can contribute at an all star level right now. You would pair him with Kobe... how can you pass that up? Durant for 2? Durant is younger, and I do not see that making as much sense.

Looking at this from Melo's point of view...
1- He and Kobe are good friends.
2- Melo played his best basketball alongsge Kobe on team USA.
3- He and his wife have a strong LA connection.
4- His career is winding down, he already compares himself to LeBron and Wade. He does not want to retire without a ring.
5- If LeBron and Cleveland win this year JR Smith will have a ring, Melo does not want to see that go down either. Beat by JR Smith?
6- LA is a great place for endorsements and other ways to make money.
7- Kobe and Melo short term making a run at rings, long term Melo inherits the city then passes the torch in 5 years to whomever.

From LA's Perspective-
1- Much like NY rebuilding is hard in LA, but LA has endured a lot of this and they still have one of their greatest of all time on their roster and they are paying him A LOT to just "tip his cap" to the crowd and never really contend.
2- Melo is made for LA and has star power, a famous wife, and can generate a lot of buzz.
3- Melo and Kobe teaming up with whomever the two of them can recruit is a great story line, and California the home of Hollywood LOVES a good story with a happy ending.
4- Potentially seeing a Laker great in Kobe tying or passing Jordan's ring count is another amazing story to behold. Something people would talk about for ages on end.
5- With the money Kobe is making now it is hard to rebuild and compete. It is almost impossible to go 50/50 rebuild and contend.
6- Lots and lots of money to be made in staying relevant now, and contending with Kobe. Money talks.

Why it makes sense for Kobe-
1- He wants to tie Jordan or beat him to silence his critics.
2- Kobe is not going to be happy with losing and he is going to chew up a rookie who is not able to get it done from day one.
3- Kobe is not a guy who is happy with "rebuilding" he is not going to be okay with another losing season where he misses the playoffs thus damaging his legacy.
4- Kobe is older, and he needs help. He is amazing but needs to reinvent himself slightly much like Jordan relied more on his fade away than his penetration and elevation towards the end of his career. Kobe needs to preserve his body and Melo can still take some abuse.
5- Adding his friend in Melo gives them a big two, one player away fro ma big three and we have Love available who would help a lot on this team either with spacing or running the offense on the second team. I actually think he would thrive in LA as he was ill used in Cleveland. One does not simply not tell Kevin Love he is now Chris Bosh.

Why it makes sense for the Knicks-
1- Rebuild through youth and the draft, repair past damage done by throwing away first round picks.
2- Rebooting the franchise, now with young players as attracting name free agents will be a challenge after a nightmare season.
3- Teaching younger guys the offense we want to run is easier than teaching old dogs new tricks. JR could not learn the offense same for others, Jordan started running this offense young as did Kobe. The triangle is second nature to them.
4- We are not likely to assemble a team in time to win within Melo's window of opportunity given the challenges in NY, and distinct lack of cap and star power.

100% agree perfectly said, I think this is the Knicks perfect opportunity to fix the years of damage we did trading draft picks.

If we can get the #2 from Lakers and are able to draft Towns/Okafor #2 and Mundiay/Winslow at #4.

[Thorn]

You guys both make excellent points, I can only counter with... times change and go over the reasons I listed above. I think his time in NY may have changed his outlook, and I think Kobe's time in LA may have given him a new perspective. Both are at different places in their career now.

But these are just my opinions.

[Concrete Jungle]

Melo is NOT going to LA
He's NOT leaving the Knicks
He wants to do it here and he will if all goes well

[Knicks218]

Melo is NOT going to LA
He's NOT leaving the Knicks
He wants to do it here and he will if all goes well

Hows he going to do it here if we don't land him any help? You think LMA or Gasol are coming here? I wish they do but reality is setting in Knicks are so bad that even us having a star in Melo isn't enough to attract big free agents anymore.

[Concrete Jungle]

Melo is NOT going to LA
He's NOT leaving the Knicks
He wants to do it here and he will if all goes well

Hows he going to do it here if we don't land him any help? You think LMA or Gasol are coming here? I wish they do but reality is setting in Knicks are so bad that even us having a star in Melo isn't enough to attract big free agents anymore.

this isn't a 1 year, 2 year thing. You guys are too impatient, though I understand because of the past 15 years. However we just seen the team in the ECF who got Swept in Atlanta and the Knicks can be better then they were next year AND we have an Elite talent in Melo who can match up with LBJ. Just have some patience we gonna be fine. It may not be the ideal situation we hoped for but I trust Phil but then again I smoke hella trees.

[beasonu]

Lakers are up for trading the number 2 pick for a veteran, who could help them win now.

“If you came across something that made your team better quicker, it would probably be a veteran, then that’s something you would consider,” Kupchak said, “but there’s something to be said for having the No. 2 pick in terms of building going forward.”

Get 'er done Phil!!!

viewtopic.php?f=415&t=1389641&p=43743689#p43743689

Melo for #2 would be a dream come true.

Jahlil and Mudiay come on down my god

[GONYK]

You guys both make excellent points, I can only counter with... times change and go over the reasons I listed above. I think his time in NY may have changed his outlook, and I think Kobe's time in LA may have given him a new perspective. Both are at different places in their career now.

But these are just my opinions.

Perhaps, but I don't think, if that change in perspective is coming, it will take root before the draft.

I also don't think Phil has any interest in a complete teardown without a star, and that is as much of an obstacle as Melo's NTC.