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Re: Wade thinking of leaving Miami Heat 

Post#381 » by greg4012 » Fri May 29, 2015 4:22 pm

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Sign5 wrote:Lmao why did you quote me unless you felt guilty of being the ones I'm referring to?



It happens quite often, big 3 era- fans would turn on Wade after just a small stretch of bad games and then hop right back on his nuts when he eventually goes on that tear. You expect these kind of things from non-heat fans not fans who have witnessed his greatness for over a decade.

Inb4 you accuse of being more of a Wade fan than Heat fan too. Yea no.


Thanks Freud, but I'm moreso just annoyed by all you emotional overreactors. Thought quoting you quoting cyclix was a good opportunity to net a 2-for-1 see if some rational discussion and substance can be elicited. Doesn't seem so.

As for the bold, you forget that during the big 3 era we had A LOT of "non-heat fans" just visiting for a 4 year stint.

Lol "emotional overreactors", please tell me how saying some Heat fans are quick to throw Wade to the side is overreacting. No one is saying he should get the Kobe deal, nor am I saying he should be low-balled. Saying it's understandable for him wanting 3/45 is rational and far from being emotional. If the dude has put TEAM first for his whole career and finally wants to get his full pay for once then I completely understand. If he leaves then so be it but I'm definitely not going to call him stingy for it.


Outside of a tiny handful of trolls, is there anyone in this thread that is claiming he deserves less than that?

That's the thing, some of you all are condemning people that don't exist. Not only did you say people are quick to throw Wade under the bus (when it seems your views are in line with almost every single poster in the thread), but you also endorsed the post you responded to, thus purporting the idea that many in the thread are "stupid" and less worthy of having witnessed Wade than yourself. That is an emotional overreaction if I've ever seen one.
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Re: Wade thinking of leaving Miami Heat 

Post#382 » by RexBoyWonder » Fri May 29, 2015 4:24 pm

1) 99.5% of real Heat fans appreciate Wade for everything he did and will keep doing.

2) 99.5% of real Heat fans believe he should be well compensated for that reason.

3) 99.5% of real Heat fans will be happy to see Wade get around 45-50 for the next 3 years.

4) Wade's agent himself leaked that they want around that same 45-50 for the next 3 years.

5) Our front office also appreciate Wade and will find a middle ground that will make him happy while minimizing the cap hit for the good of the team. He'll end up getting around those 45-50 Mil for the next 3 years.

So what the hell are you getting all worked up about?
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Re: Wade thinking of leaving Miami Heat 

Post#383 » by RexBoyWonder » Fri May 29, 2015 4:27 pm

heat_rio-goat wrote:Offer him the mle....that or take your cripple ass out of miami.....all the money we saved from not paying wade could go to luring Durant to the heat


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Re: Wade thinking of leaving Miami Heat 

Post#384 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri May 29, 2015 4:30 pm

Elisburg will figure this out. I have zero doubts. Great post RexB
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Re: Wade thinking of leaving Miami Heat 

Post#385 » by Rocky M5 » Fri May 29, 2015 5:21 pm

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Re: Wade thinking of leaving Miami Heat 

Post#386 » by PaulieWal » Fri May 29, 2015 5:24 pm

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Mark K wrote:I suppose you can quote the career earnings Dirk has made, that KG has made, but Wade has 3 rings. He is the Heat organisation. Whilst I understand that gives me credence to ask for more, is leaving the organisation for a few extra million a year worth it?

Maybe I am being naive, but I think his legacy should mean something to him.

What "legacy" would that be? Being the good soldier? He got shoved aside and was Pippened by his own team.

And now they are openly plotting to do it again ... but with the added benefit of accepting a slashed salary while Bosh, Dragic, Whiteside, and some other free agent have stacks of money thrown at them by the Heat.

If I was Wade, there's no way I'd tolerate anyone other than Bosh making a dime more than me on this team. And I'd only tolerate it with Bosh because he was technically a part of the "Big 3".

If I'm Wade and I see that they are flashing money at Dragic or anyone else, I'm having my agent call the Hawks to see if they'd be interested in a SG that can actually score.


So you are saying Wade is incapable of understanding that he's 3 years older than Bosh and 4 years older than Dragic? Can you stop making these horrible comparisons? Dragic/Bosh are both market max guys while Wade is not. I am not sure why that's difficult to understand for some.

Listen if Wade really wants the full max and y'all are fine with him getting it then some of you better be ready for multiple lottery seasons in the next few years.
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Re: Wade thinking of leaving Miami Heat 

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Re: Wade thinking of leaving Miami Heat 

Post#388 » by Zasterror » Fri May 29, 2015 5:39 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:1) 99.5% of real Heat fans appreciate Wade for everything he did and will keep doing.

2) 99.5% of real Heat fans believe he should be well compensated for that reason.

3) 99.5% of real Heat fans will be happy to see Wade get around 45-50 for the next 3 years.

4) Wade's agent himself leaked that they want around that same 45-50 for the next 3 years.

5) Our front office also appreciate Wade and will find a middle ground that will make him happy while minimizing the cap hit for the good of the team. He'll end up getting around those 45-50 Mil for the next 3 years.

So what the hell are you getting all worked up about?


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Re: Wade thinking of leaving Miami Heat 

Post#389 » by Slot Machine » Fri May 29, 2015 5:56 pm

I can't believe people are getting this hysterical over a little bit of a hardball negotiation. Things will get worked out, why do you think Wade's agent leaked this a month+ in advance? It's a leverage move. It's all in the game, take it easy fellas.
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Re: Wade thinking of leaving Miami Heat 

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Re: Wade thinking of leaving Miami Heat 

Post#391 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri May 29, 2015 6:08 pm

Deng is probably going to be pushed not to opt in. Deng's 10 million will probably then go to filtering the salary increase for Wade. The organization will then look to fill Deng's void with the MLE. Deng should have no problem getting a three year 30 million dollar deal from possibly the Lakers, Pistons, or Knicks. At this point Deng has very little incentive to opt in due to the fact that I highly doubt with the Wade increase he will be given a three year 30 million dollar deal next year especially with us needing about 14-15 million in cap space in order to sign Whiteside.
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Re: Wade thinking of leaving Miami Heat 

Post#392 » by Hallstar » Fri May 29, 2015 6:09 pm

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Mark K wrote:I suppose you can quote the career earnings Dirk has made, that KG has made, but Wade has 3 rings. He is the Heat organisation. Whilst I understand that gives me credence to ask for more, is leaving the organisation for a few extra million a year worth it?

Maybe I am being naive, but I think his legacy should mean something to him.

What "legacy" would that be? Being the good soldier? He got shoved aside and was Pippened by his own team.

And now they are openly plotting to do it again ... but with the added benefit of accepting a slashed salary while Bosh, Dragic, Whiteside, and some other free agent have stacks of money thrown at them by the Heat.

If I was Wade, there's no way I'd tolerate anyone other than Bosh making a dime more than me on this team. And I'd only tolerate it with Bosh because he was technically a part of the "Big 3".

If I'm Wade and I see that they are flashing money at Dragic or anyone else, I'm having my agent call the Hawks to see if they'd be interested in a SG that can actually score.


So you are saying Wade is incapable of understanding that he's 3 years older than Bosh and 4 years older than Dragic? Can you stop making these horrible comparisons? Dragic/Bosh are both market max guys while Wade is not. I am not sure why that's difficult to understand for some.

Listen if Wade really wants the full max and y'all are fine with him getting it then some of you better be ready for multiple lottery seasons in the next few years.


Because when Dragic is Wade's age he could be earning close to 30 million if we give him a "max" contract. 29 yo Dragic is at best on par with 33/34 yo Wade. Wade could have said FU to Lebron and rolled with Bosh and pieces since 2010 and probably gotten a ECF, a Finals appearance and his money. Probably an MVP too.

Nobody is saying give him a Kobe deal, but this idea that the only damn Economic draw on the team should take yet a another pay cut is ludicrous
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Re: Wade thinking of leaving Miami Heat 

Post#393 » by PaulieWal » Fri May 29, 2015 6:16 pm

Hallstar wrote:Because when Dragic is Wade's age he could be earning close to 30 million if we give him a "max" contract. 29 yo Dragic is at best on par with 33/34 yo Wade. Wade could have said FU to Lebron and rolled with Bosh and pieces since 2010 and probably gotten a ECF, a Finals appearance and his money. Probably an MVP too.

Nobody is saying give him a Kobe deal, but this idea that the only damn Economic draw on the team should take yet a another pay cut is ludicrous


What? Why would Dragic be earning $30 mil?

His max right now is going to be around 5 years 100 mil, I would have to check the numbers exactly but he isn't even close to getting 30 mil a year neither will he get that from this team.

And going forward I think it's safe to say Dragic will probably be better than Wade if you don't think he isn't already.

I think Wade should get something like 3 years 45-50 mil but these comparisons with Bosh and Dragic are absurd since both are market max guys which some can't comprehend.
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Re: Wade thinking of leaving Miami Heat 

Post#394 » by Myam333 » Fri May 29, 2015 6:17 pm

I have one question for Wade. Was it worth it? Was taking a paycut in your prime for 2 rings worth it? The answer is obviously yes otherwise he would have been playing for Chicago in 2010. He can't complain about his career earnings thus far.

Since he did take a paycut in 2010 and opt out of guaranteed money this last offseason to help the team, I do think 3 years/45 mil is fair. Just give it to him.
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Re: Wade thinking of leaving Miami Heat 

Post#395 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri May 29, 2015 6:20 pm

Wade is not going anywhere. I am just about 99.5% sure of that. Probably my last post in this thread. Trust in Riley. No way in a million years Arison and Riley let Wade walk. Talks were just preliminary and Henry Thomas got the ball rolling with going to the media. This is how good agents work. Riley probably wants to make Deng work so bad but he will have to let him walk. If Deng decides to opt in then so be it as long as he knows he will not be given an extension next year. We will need his cap space for Whiteside next year.
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Re: Wade thinking of leaving Miami Heat 

Post#396 » by heat4life » Fri May 29, 2015 6:28 pm

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Here we go with the cryptic bull. Hope it plays out in our favor this time.

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Re: Wade thinking of leaving Miami Heat 

Post#397 » by twix2500 » Fri May 29, 2015 6:29 pm

Real question for real heat fans, should the Heat give up targeting Kevin Durant in 2016?
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Re: Wade thinking of leaving Miami Heat 

Post#398 » by Dmcdani6 » Fri May 29, 2015 6:30 pm

Looks like Deng is the odd man out. Wade isn't leaving, not even the slightest bit am I worried. Media is there to make people overreact, these arguements right now are pointless. Seems like #10 WILL have to be a wing player, if we're planning on Deng leaving. I don't know how the contracts would work, but does Deng leaving free up money or no?

EDIT: Not a tenured Heat fan, like some of you but, WADE DESERVES EVERY SINGLE PENNY HE WANTS. PAY THAT MAN!
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Re: Wade thinking of leaving Miami Heat 

Post#399 » by Heat_Fan_87 » Fri May 29, 2015 6:38 pm

twix2500 wrote:Real question for real heat fans, should the Heat give up targeting Kevin Durant in 2016?


i never thought/think we have a shot a durant.
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Re: Wade thinking of leaving Miami Heat 

Post#400 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri May 29, 2015 6:44 pm

Dmcdani6 wrote:Looks like Deng is the odd man out. Wade isn't leaving, not even the slightest bit am I worried. Media is there to make people overreact, these arguements right now are pointless. Seems like #10 WILL have to be a wing player, if we're planning on Deng leaving. I don't know how the contracts would work, but does Deng leaving free up money or no?

EDIT: Not a tenured Heat fan, like some of you but, WADE DESERVES EVERY SINGLE PENNY HE WANTS. PAY THAT MAN!

It does not free up cap space but will most likely free up the money for Mickey Arison to give Wade what he wants without getting slaughtered by the tax. Deng was a weird fit next to Wade anyway. Probably best we go cheap and young at the three especially if we plan on running and gunning into the future.

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