Draftexpress drops Mudiay down to pick #6 today

Greenie · Post #21 » by **Greenie** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 1:33 pm

fresko024 wrote:This doesn't mean anything. Mudiay has scheduled workouts with LA, Philly, and NY as per Zagoria. There is still the possibility of him going in the top 3. I personally do not see him slipping past us at 4. He has too much potential.

I don't see this so called potential with him. I see a bigger poor mans Rondo...now.
Yuck!

Greenie · Post #22 » by **Greenie** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 1:35 pm

DrCoach wrote:
captvict wrote:Exactly where he belongs for a player who struggles with shooting the ball and shooting free throws...The CBA makes a lot of people look like stars...Including Marbury...just my thoughts

Mudiay was the #1 HS prospect before the CBA

Don't care.

knickstape21 · Post #23 » by **knickstape21** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 1:36 pm

The hate for Winslow is real.

Isiahs Garden · Post #24 » by **Isiahs Garden** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 1:37 pm

I'll throw the remote if the Knicks take Winslow. My NY board is as follows: 1. Towns 2. Russell 3. Okafor 4. Mudiay 5. Hezonja 6. Winslow 7. Kaminsky 8. WCS 9. Porzingis 10. Johnson

Winslow at 6 is fine, but imo Mudiay and Hezonja are much better choices than him. Towns and Russell are can't miss HR's, you can not discount Okafor's ability. One thing to note is that I have Frank The Tank up relatively high. I see him as a match-up nightmare in the league. He has a major skill set at 7-1 and is not tissue paper soft.

knickstape21 · Post #25 » by **knickstape21** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 1:37 pm

melomax wrote:Winslow is a guy you want on your team once he plays out his rookie contract.

Not before.

the more I watched him, the more I just dont understand why people are so high on him. He has so little star potential relative to okafor, towns, russell, mudiay, porzingis.

It's not about star potential, buddy. It's about helping us win basketball games.

Greenie · Post #26 » by **Greenie** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 1:39 pm

rwb0376 wrote:
FemaleDogPlease wrote:Knicks haven't had workouts. Updates mean nothing.

Phil isn't drafting Winslow.

He isn't drafting Mudiay either.

We are drafting Trill.

Greenie · Post #27 » by **Greenie** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 1:42 pm

Isiahs Garden wrote:I'll throw the remote if the Knicks take Winslow. My NY board is as follows: 1. Towns 2. Russell 3. Okafor 4. Mudiay 5. Hezonja 6. Winslow 7. Kaminsky 8. WCS 9. Porzingis 10. Johnson

Winslow at 6 is fine, but imo Mudiay and Hezonja are much better choices than him. Towns and Russell are can't miss HR's, you can not discount Okafor's ability. One thing to note is that I have Frank The Tank up relatively high. I see him as a match-up nightmare in the league. He has a major skill set at 7-1 and is not tissue paper soft.

Good thing you're not drafting for us Isiah.

Post #28 » by **moocow007** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 1:47 pm

Thorn wrote:
god shammgod wrote:melo controls draftexpress ?

No, he controls...

Melo is the new Starbury? Remember when folks used to blame Marbury for everything and not just bad things that happen specifically for the Knicks? :lol:

Post #29 » by **moocow007** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 1:48 pm

knickstape21 wrote:
melomax wrote:Winslow is a guy you want on your team once he plays out his rookie contract.

Not before.

the more I watched him, the more I just dont understand why people are so high on him. He has so little star potential relative to okafor, towns, russell, mudiay, porzingis.

It's not about star potential, buddy. It's about helping us win basketball games.

The Knicks have $27-30 million to find role players that can help win basketball games.

Post #30 » by **moocow007** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 1:48 pm

melomax wrote:Winslow is a guy you want on your team once he plays out his rookie contract.

Not before.

the more I watched him, the more I just dont understand why people are so high on him. He has so little star potential relative to okafor, towns, russell, mudiay, porzingis.

Because he's clearly the next Kawhi Leonard? :lol:

Fat · Post #31 » by **Fat** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 1:49 pm

im ok with winslow at 4 just off the strength im a big fan of his but im still taking Mudiay over winslow at the end of the day

But anyway unless DX has the scoop on who were drafting this means nothing.

swisscheeseD · Post #32 » by **swisscheeseD** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 1:49 pm

This is why many of us "overreacted" to getting the 4th pick...the uncertainty of the selection...getting #4 was as bad, if not worse, than getting the 5th. At least with #5, we can justify a WCS/Winslow/Porzingis selection. Any time we leave the Knicks in a position to "hopefully" not **** it up...they usually will.

god4gives · Post #33 » by **god4gives** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 1:50 pm

Isiahs Garden wrote:One thing to note is that I have Frank The Tank up relatively high. I see him as a match-up nightmare in the league. He has a major skill set at 7-1 and is not tissue paper soft.

Post #34 » by **moocow007** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 1:51 pm

swisscheeseD wrote:This is why many of us "overreacted" to getting the 4th pick...the uncertainty of the selection...getting #4 was as bad, if not worse, than getting the 5th. At least with #5, we can justify a WCS/Winslow/Porzingis selection. Any time we leave the Knicks in a position to "hopefully" not **** it up...they usually will.

Come on if you trust your GM you still want to pick as high as possible.

knickstape21 · Post #35 » by **knickstape21** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 1:54 pm

moocow007 wrote:
knickstape21 wrote:
melomax wrote:Winslow is a guy you want on your team once he plays out his rookie contract.

Not before.

the more I watched him, the more I just dont understand why people are so high on him. He has so little star potential relative to okafor, towns, russell, mudiay, porzingis.

It's not about star potential, buddy. It's about helping us win basketball games.

The Knicks have $27-30 million to find role players that can help win basketball games.

I give up.

You guys just don't want a warrior in NY it's unbelievable. So much energy and heart and you mofos want freaking Porzingis over him. UNBELIEVABLE!

Post #36 » by **GONYK** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 1:57 pm

knickstape21 wrote:
melomax wrote:Winslow is a guy you want on your team once he plays out his rookie contract.

Not before.

the more I watched him, the more I just dont understand why people are so high on him. He has so little star potential relative to okafor, towns, russell, mudiay, porzingis.

It's not about star potential, buddy. It's about helping us win basketball games.

Drafting in the top 5 is always about star potential

Post #37 » by **moocow007** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 1:58 pm

knickstape21 wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
knickstape21 wrote:
It's not about star potential, buddy. It's about helping us win basketball games.

The Knicks have $27-30 million to find role players that can help win basketball games.

I give up.

You guys just don't want a warrior in NY it's unbelievable. So much energy and heart and you mofos want freaking Porzingis over him. UNBELIEVABLE!

At 4th overall with the lack of any semblance of top flight talent or potential on this team (besides a 30 year old Carmelo Anthony)? No, I don't want a warrior role player. I can probably package Tim Hardaway and some portion of $3 million to buy a pick later in the draft and take Montrezl Harrel if I want a guy that I can dress up as a warrior of a role player.

Greenie · Post #38 » by **Greenie** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 1:58 pm

knickstape21 wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
knickstape21 wrote:
It's not about star potential, buddy. It's about helping us win basketball games.

The Knicks have $27-30 million to find role players that can help win basketball games.

I give up.

You guys just don't want a warrior in NY it's unbelievable. So much energy and heart and you mofos want freaking Porzingis over him. UNBELIEVABLE!

He's an undersized forward...

Post #39 » by **mpharris36** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 2:00 pm

at the end of the day none of us are in the gym working these guys out. We are simply going off of what we have seen and our personal preferences.

I would pick Mudiay based off of upside but for example what if he absolutely tanks his workout for us? And Winslow kills it. I'm just curious, we aren't seeing any this first hand so really no one knows.

Post #40 » by **King of Canada** » Tue Jun 2, 2015 2:07 pm

Mudiay workouts are starting soon. He's a Laker fan? Hopefully he can do something to convince them to pick him and we end up with a big.