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SunsRback4Good · Post #1121 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Thu Jun 4, 2015 11:12 am

Maybe the Brow will come to Phoenix in a few years since we desperately need a pf.

RunDogGun · Post #1122 » by **RunDogGun** » Thu Jun 4, 2015 9:23 pm

LMA puts his Portland house up for sale?

saintEscaton · Post #1123 » by **saintEscaton** » Thu Jun 4, 2015 9:27 pm

RunDogGun wrote:LMA puts his Portland house up for sale?

He's quite obviously Texas bound.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPwutkJtEgo

RunDogGun · Post #1124 » by **RunDogGun** » Thu Jun 4, 2015 11:50 pm

Can't wait for all the fake news outlets to make up speculations. Now if LMA vacations anywhere this summer, the rumors will follow.

RunDogGun · Post #1125 » by **RunDogGun** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 1:18 am

Man those moving screens by Bogut are insane.

RunDogGun · Post #1126 » by **RunDogGun** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 3:32 am

How fitting, Draymond with the huge moving screen for the open shot. Wow, huge block by Irving.

SunsRback4Good · Post #1127 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 1:01 pm

Moving screens are sweeping the nation. Soon 99% of nba players will do this tactic.

RunDogGun · Post #1128 » by **RunDogGun** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 4:53 pm

SunsReadyToRoll wrote:Moving screens are sweeping the nation. Soon 99% of nba players will do this tactic.

Many players already do it, the problem is when they call them. Either don't call them at all, call the obvious ones that change the play greatly, or start calling them regularly, so players know exactly what a moving screen is. Bogut actually stuck his arm out, and grabbed a guy right at the free throw line. It was way too obvious.

But that Draymond Green one at the end of regulation that freed up Curry, after the travel call that took points from the Cavs, changed that game greatly. Cavs should have won that game in regulation.

It's just sad to have this blatant fouling not called in the finals, but a slight shuffle of one foot, still not sure if it was the pivot foot or not is called, but grabs and hockey butt under checks are ok.

League=joke

RaisingArizona · Post #1129 » by **RaisingArizona** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 9:13 pm

RunDogGun wrote:
SunsReadyToRoll wrote:Moving screens are sweeping the nation. Soon 99% of nba players will do this tactic.

Many players already do it, the problem is when they call them. Either don't call them at all, call the obvious ones that change the play greatly, or start calling them regularly, so players know exactly what a moving screen is. Bogut actually stuck his arm out, and grabbed a guy right at the free throw line. It was way too obvious.

But that Draymond Green one at the end of regulation that freed up Curry, after the travel call that took points from the Cavs, changed that game greatly. Cavs should have won that game in regulation.

It's just sad to have this blatant fouling not called in the finals, but a slight shuffle of one foot, still not sure if it was the pivot foot or not is called, but grabs and hockey butt under checks are ok.

League=joke

I'm pretty sure Mozgov didn't travel either. Cavs got jobbed, I agree.

kennydorglas · Post #1130 » by **kennydorglas** » Fri Jun 5, 2015 10:22 pm

ginobiliflops wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:
SunsReadyToRoll wrote:Moving screens are sweeping the nation. Soon 99% of nba players will do this tactic.

Many players already do it, the problem is when they call them. Either don't call them at all, call the obvious ones that change the play greatly, or start calling them regularly, so players know exactly what a moving screen is. Bogut actually stuck his arm out, and grabbed a guy right at the free throw line. It was way too obvious.

But that Draymond Green one at the end of regulation that freed up Curry, after the travel call that took points from the Cavs, changed that game greatly. Cavs should have won that game in regulation.

It's just sad to have this blatant fouling not called in the finals, but a slight shuffle of one foot, still not sure if it was the pivot foot or not is called, but grabs and hockey butt under checks are ok.

League=joke

I'm pretty sure Mozgov didn't travel either. Cavs got jobbed, I agree.

He travelled, look at his right foot.

Post #1131 » by **Miklo** » Sat Jun 6, 2015 3:03 am

So is Cleveland done without Kyrie? I actually was predicting CLE were going to win the Finals before Game 1, but said prediction has taken a couple solid hits these last 2 days...

Post #1132 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Jun 6, 2015 4:51 am

Miklo wrote:So is Cleveland done without Kyrie? I actually was predicting CLE were going to win the Finals before Game 1, but said prediction has taken a couple solid hits these last 2 days...

I predicted GS in 7 but if the Cavs, as unlucky as they are, pull it off, LeBron has to go down as one of the best ever. Jordan NEVER would have won it all without Pippen and especially without Pippen AND Grant/Rodman. I watched them all.

Cutter · Post #1133 » by **Cutter** » Sat Jun 6, 2015 4:59 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Miklo wrote:So is Cleveland done without Kyrie? I actually was predicting CLE were going to win the Finals before Game 1, but said prediction has taken a couple solid hits these last 2 days...

I predicted GS in 7 but if the Cavs, as unlucky as they are, pull it off, LeBron has to go down as one of the best ever. Jordan NEVER would have won it all without Pippen and especially without Pippen AND Grant/Rodman. I watched them all.

LeBron is truly the Greatest of All Time. He may not win as many rings as Jordan, but LeBron is bigger, stronger and more talented than MJ. If LeBron had as strong of a supporting cast as Jordan, it wouldn't even be close. LeBron's dominance would be clear for all to see.

Post #1134 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Jun 6, 2015 5:49 am

Cutter wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Miklo wrote:So is Cleveland done without Kyrie? I actually was predicting CLE were going to win the Finals before Game 1, but said prediction has taken a couple solid hits these last 2 days...

I predicted GS in 7 but if the Cavs, as unlucky as they are, pull it off, LeBron has to go down as one of the best ever. Jordan NEVER would have won it all without Pippen and especially without Pippen AND Grant/Rodman. I watched them all.

LeBron is truly the Greatest of All Time. He may not win as many rings as Jordan, but LeBron is bigger, stronger and more talented than MJ. If LeBron had as strong of a supporting cast as Jordan, it wouldn't even be close. LeBron's dominance would be clear for all to see.

Bigger and stronger doesn't matter as much in success for him as understanding the game. He has gotten so good at utilizing whoever is available around him to make them successful. That is a true leader. I am super interested now in seeing if he can continue to compete and even play close games with GS.

Any other team that lost two guys even close to as good as Love and Irving would be done. They wouldn't even make it out of the first round.

Jdiddy701 · Post #1135 » by **Jdiddy701** » Sat Jun 6, 2015 5:53 am

The fact people are comparing Lebron to MJ is outrageous. He's not even compared to Kobe. 6-0 finals appearance for MJ is incredible.

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Post #1136 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Jun 6, 2015 6:11 am

Jdiddy701 wrote:The fact people are comparing Lebron to MJ is outrageous. He's not even compared to Kobe. 6-0 finals appearance for MJ is incredible. Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums

I'm not comparing them...they are completely different players. MJ was more like Kobe....without the right players around him = not successful.

LeBron is more like Magic..he makes everyone around him better in a way that makes him successful...that is why I am interested to see if he can do it against a healthy, great, deep, GS team. Even if they play every game close and lose in a sweep, it will be memorable to me how good LeBron made that team even though they had lost Love and Kyrie. 99% of people will look at the result and not realize that.

Magic and Bird were both legendary players who faced each other in the finals every year so they don't have the number of championships that Jordan did. I'm not saying they were better than him, but had one of those guys not been around when the other one was, there is a good chance either one of those guys would have had 7-8 championships. Jordan never really had to face another transcendent player equal to him like those other guys did in the finals.

RaisingArizona · Post #1137 » by **RaisingArizona** » Sat Jun 6, 2015 8:18 am

Call me crazy but I still like the Cavs.

thamadkant · Post #1138 » by **thamadkant** » Sat Jun 6, 2015 8:29 am

Jordan would of scored a lot of points in that overtime... Lebron didnt.
Thats the difference... Jordan goes for the kill when his back is on the wall.. ive seen enough of Lebron and Jordan... Kobe is closer to Jordan in regards to going out with a bang instead of whimpering. Kobe is a ball hog and I suppose thats a trait that can work in a do or die OT situation.. Kobe will shoot 10 shots in a row to try to score his way to a win. Lebron didnt want the ball enough it seemed.

Lebron was gassed... but still... he had an AMAZING game... but that OT is an example where Jordan would of called a time out and demanded the ball goes to him.

In any case, Lebron is a SF... Jordan is a SG... Lebron is an all rounder, Jordan is the greatest scorer of them all... so ranking them is MOOT, but just for argument sakes... Jordan is the better champion and playoff performer. We've all experienced it as Suns fans back even before 1993 finals... where Jordan had to score 40+ points to dismantle the Suns then.

But we are witnessing another top 10 player of all time in Lebron, so lets just take a deep breath and appreciate it.

Frank Lee · Post #1139 » by **Frank Lee** » Sat Jun 6, 2015 12:17 pm

Rank their desire not their talent.

I am convinced, Jordan would stomp on the heads of multiple baby kittens to win.

RunDogGun · Post #1140 » by **RunDogGun** » Sat Jun 6, 2015 5:13 pm

kennydorglas wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:Many players already do it, the problem is when they call them. Either don't call them at all, call the obvious ones that change the play greatly, or start calling them regularly, so players know exactly what a moving screen is. Bogut actually stuck his arm out, and grabbed a guy right at the free throw line. It was way too obvious.

But that Draymond Green one at the end of regulation that freed up Curry, after the travel call that took points from the Cavs, changed that game greatly. Cavs should have won that game in regulation.

It's just sad to have this blatant fouling not called in the finals, but a slight shuffle of one foot, still not sure if it was the pivot foot or not is called, but grabs and hockey butt under checks are ok.

League=joke

I'm pretty sure Mozgov didn't travel either. Cavs got jobbed, I agree.

He travelled, look at his right foot.

Even in the slow mo replay, it's tough to tell whether his right heal stays on the ground and that is what he pivots on. It would seem awkward to do that, but in real time and at that juncture, very tough to be diminutive about it. Follow that with the horrible moving screen that Green did to free up Curry, it just makes the refs look incompetent, or blatantly one sided when the game is on the line.